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[Parallax Demon]

RedJohn wrote...

DieWaffenKatzen wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

DieWaffenKatzen wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

With that nerf, the sexbot would get increased damage taken in order to have movement speed bonuses and free revives.

How is that crazy ? 

It is against the whole meaning of the Repair Matrix. This power should make AIU more viable, not weaken it.

The instant revive plus the speedbonus is not viable enough?

Because if not I would like to know what is.

For some (I think even for the most) people it is not.

Nerfing DR is fine, adding negative DR, on the other hand, would just ruin the meaning of the power.

The main attraction of the power is revive you..

Which really helps you when you got downed by a Phantom or are in the middle of a Geth stunlock party

[holdenagincourt]

Just change movement speed increase to decrease, and either severely reduce damage reduction or remove it entirely (shield restore rate could also be reduced). Auto revives aren't going away.

Another thing Tactical Cloak ruins: Repair Matrix would be much more acceptable if it were a UCT power at base cooldown of 20 seconds or so, that way players would have to seriously consider whether they wanted to use it or one of the other two powers in the kit at a time. Because of TC's iWin scaled cooldown with free bonus power, Repair Matrix can't be balanced that way. Negative externality: must be a grenade power, thereby gimping other grenade classes on the team.

[Bechter]

She was never a iWin button no matter what. BSN exaggerates things greatly.

[Final Marauder]

MassEffected555 wrote...

I think you should stop obsessing over the AIU personally.
Did she steal your blanky or something? You cant stop posting about it can you?

Too much fuss over her, I see her in one in every 3 or 4 games.

[Draining Dragon]

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

As we know

Who "we"? Bunch of elitist whiners?

"We" being a collective first-person. It means cool people.

Modifié par Draining Dragon, 06 mars 2013 - 09:13 .

[JedtheHumanoid7]

MassEffected555 wrote...

I think you should stop obsessing over the AIU personally.
Did she steal your blanky or something? You cant stop posting about it can you?

In my humble opinion of course ;-)

chuckles to self

[Major Durza]

If the autorevive is still there, then it will be OP. Its as simple as that. Like the Krysae Missle Launcher, such a concept is unbalancable.

As long as its there, you'll always be able to rip the game an even wider new **** RJ. Its not as intuitive to the average noob, you have to understand, but it still has that "noobs Gold" element that still gives a huge reward for mastery. We need to take out the "Noobs Gold" element, which is the autorevive. The other aspects of the power are not OP IMO.

[inversevideo]

RedJohn wrote...

DieWaffenKatzen wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

DieWaffenKatzen wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

With that nerf, the sexbot would get increased damage taken in order to have movement speed bonuses and free revives.

How is that crazy ? 

It is against the whole meaning of the Repair Matrix. This power should make AIU more viable, not weaken it.

The instant revive plus the speedbonus is not viable enough?

Because if not I would like to know what is.

For some (I think even for the most) people it is not.

Nerfing DR is fine, adding negative DR, on the other hand, would just ruin the meaning of the power.

The main attraction of the power is revive you..

RM should boost.repair. It does not need to revive. Volus has shield boost, AIU should have health boost. Like a limited OPS PACK.  RM should restore/repair your 'health' by roughly 50%

Something takes your health down to only 3bars remaining? RM, would repair AIU over time to full health.  

Something takes your health down to only 2 bars remaining? RM repairs AIU, over time, so that AIU has 4 bars of health. No further repair possible without an OPS Pack.

Sometihing takes your health down to only 1 bar remaining? RM repairs AIU, over time, so that AIU has 2 bars of health.  No further repair possible without an OPS Pack.

Something knocks out all your health? Har! Yer Dead!  RM offline. Take a gel.

This allows AIU to retain a unique ability, like the Volus shield boost or TGI stims, but should satisfy the concerns of those who believe AIU is currently immortal.

Modifié par inversevideo, 06 mars 2013 - 09:21 .

[Sharkey00]

RedJohn wrote...

MassEffected555 wrote...

I think you should stop obsessing over the AIU personally.
Did she steal your blanky or something? You cant stop posting about it can you?

In my humble opinion of course ;-)

lol, who said i'm obsessed?, you say it like if I were created more than 10 threads about it.

When I actually made 1 giving my opinion, and another joke thread with a plat solo without launchers where I state I died a lot and the character is a iWin stuff.

Your skills may be worthy for hall of fame but you opinion?

HALL OF SHAME.

[TeamLexana]

I don't see how they could really change the RP to take out the Jesus Grenade element without a patch. At most they could do is lower the bonuses it does give like movement speed, sheild restoration and duration... then again, all this would do is cause peeps to spam even more Jesus Grenades and ****** more peeps off in a match who wants grenades as well.

Personally I'd leave her as she is,  if it offends your geekabilites you don't have to use her nor play with peeps that do.

Modifié par TeamLexana, 06 mars 2013 - 09:25 .

[RedJohn]

Inversevideo, I like that idea, but we both know it would require a patch that won't come.

Also IM not against the instant revive, for me it is a great idea, but the thing is that Repair Matrix has too many perks, that makes everything else look pointless.

[Eelectrica]

Base duration from 15 secs to 10 secs
Base damage taken from -15 to -10
Base speed increase from 10% to 5% is my guess. Maybe another couple of tweaks as well.

People will still cry about auto revive. I hope in ME4 they go the BL2 route where if a character goes down, they auto re-spawn at the cost of a few credits.

Who wants to watch others play while you twiddle your thumbs due to some cheap game mechanic like a banshee warping through walls and insta grabbing. Or getting stuck on some part of the map and getting sync killed.

That's my take. I prefer the BL2 way of handling player death then the me3 way - straight back in the fight.

Modifié par Eelectrica, 06 mars 2013 - 09:32 .

[Ogelia]

RedJohn wrote...

As we know, the Alliance Infiltrator Unit is broken, and it will get a balance, I hope after this nerf this character won't be an "iWin instantly character no matter what"


Now the question is, how it will be  nerfed?


from my point of view, the duration of Repair Matrix should be reduced to 8-10 seconds instead of 15.
The damage reduction should be negative, so instead of giving real damage reduction it would be increasing the damage taken during Repair Matrix, in this way would be like Ascension mode, with the difference that in this case we get more damage taken for us for the price of instant revives.

The speedbonus should be reduced to the half
The shield restoration should also be reduced to the half.


How do you think it should be nerfed?
Are you agree with this nerf?



In my case I am agree with the balance of this character, because sincerely, i think you just have a legal with infinite live to play



Anyway, what about you?


Tell me all what you think about this matter.

Also, yes I love this character 

well bc you dont know play it without grenade eqvip its dont mean its OP i never use granade eqvip on her have onl 2  nades  and never have problem with this   

[TeamLexana]

The only thing that bothers me about it is if there is a AUI, odds are, you will never get grenades so be prepared to use thermals or switch to a non grenade class. At least TGI's don't have to keep stimpacks running throughout the match.

[UKStory135]

TeamLexana wrote...

I don't see how they could really change the RP to take out the Jesus Grenade element without a patch. At most they could do is lower the bonuses it does give like movement speed, sheild restoration and duration... then again, all this would do is cause peeps to spam even more Jesus Grenades and ****** more peeps off in a match who wants grenades as well.

Personally I'd leave her as she is,  if it offends your geekabilites you don't have to use her nor play with peeps that do.

From now on, I'm calling RM Jesus Grenades. That is the best nickname ever.

[TuringPoint]

I think the self-revive component is the least important aspect, and it's also the thing that makes them cheap. OP's suggestion doesn't solve the problem.

If they would make a change this significant, surely they can remove the self-revive.

I rarely use them regardless.

A nerf should work towards balancing a game, not neutering a kit.

Modifié par Alocormin, 06 mars 2013 - 09:52 .

[Lamiaaa]

UKStory135 wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

I don't see how they could really change the RP to take out the Jesus Grenade element without a patch. At most they could do is lower the bonuses it does give like movement speed, sheild restoration and duration... then again, all this would do is cause peeps to spam even more Jesus Grenades and ****** more peeps off in a match who wants grenades as well.

Personally I'd leave her as she is,  if it offends your geekabilites you don't have to use her nor play with peeps that do.

From now on, I'm calling RM Jesus Grenades. That is the best nickname ever.

on topic: auto revive is a pretty significant unique quality, I can only see reductions in the bonuses repair matrix gives, especially shield restoration, maybe it can be made to not take effect while cloaking

Modifié par Lamiaaa, 06 mars 2013 - 09:44 .

[RedJohn]

Ogelia Wrote...

well bc you dont know play it without grenade eqvip its dont mean its OP i never use granade eqvip on her have onl 2  nades  and never have problem with this   

Well, maybe you are right and I just don't know how to play it, please teach me how.

IM just a n00b so probably I might need some help with this character.

Modifié par RedJohn, 06 mars 2013 - 10:04 .

[TeamLexana]

UKStory135 wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

I don't see how they could really change the RP to take out the Jesus Grenade element without a patch. At most they could do is lower the bonuses it does give like movement speed, sheild restoration and duration... then again, all this would do is cause peeps to spam even more Jesus Grenades and ****** more peeps off in a match who wants grenades as well.

Personally I'd leave her as she is,  if it offends your geekabilites you don't have to use her nor play with peeps that do.

From now on, I'm calling RM Jesus Grenades. That is the best nickname ever.

For some reason I couldn't ever remember the name of the revive grenades so Jesus Grenade was born. You can't kill me! I GOT JESUS GRENADES!! lol

[nrcrane]

I don't think it will be much of a nerf. Probably along the lines of what they did with the TGI. If there was a plan to continue supporting this game then maybe it would be more, but to me it just kind of seems like the devs are just trying to move on from this game, so I am guessing they will do the bare minimum that they feel that they will have to.

[Boog_89]

I predict a very small nerf which will do practically nothing to stop if from been god mode. It perfect makes sense to give it some some negative effects like increase damage or reduced movement speed taken just like others buff powers do (barrier, tech armor, devestator mode, hunter mode etc)

[Sharkey00]

RedJohn wrote...

Ogelia Wrote...

well bc you dont know play it without grenade eqvip its dont mean its OP i never use granade eqvip on her have onl 2  nades  and never have problem with this   

Well, maybe you are right and I just don't know how to play it, please teach me how.

IM just a n9ne so probably I might need some help with this character.

This kind of arrogance betrays a false humility and reinforces the entire elistist label.

Yours is one opinion and it should not weigh more because you play the CO-OP game better than others. The 500,00 AIU threads on BSN since the release of Reckoning have produced 500,000 opinions, each equally valid (though some are hilarious, others whiny), and in each thread there are arguments for and against a nerf.

Put on a bib, lick the nerd sauce from your fingers, and enjoy your victory: a nerf is coming. Isn't that enough?

[spudspot]

My guess is people will call her an iWin button no matter what, so making predictions seems kinda pointless.

Modifié par spudspot, 06 mars 2013 - 10:08 .

[RedJohn]

Sharkey00 wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

Ogelia Wrote...

well bc you dont know play it without grenade eqvip its dont mean its OP i never use granade eqvip on her have onl 2  nades  and never have problem with this   

Well, maybe you are right and I just don't know how to play it, please teach me how.

IM just a n9ne so probably I might need some help with this character.

This kind of arrogance betrays a false humility and reinforces the entire elistist label.

Yours is one opinion and it should not weigh more because you play the CO-OP game better than others. The 500,00 AIU threads on BSN since the release of Reckoning have produced 500,000 opinions, each equally valid (though some are hilarious, others whiny), and in each thread there are arguments for and against a nerf.

Put on a bib, lick the nerd sauce from your fingers, and enjoy your victory: a nerf is coming. Isn't that enough?

What arrogance? He told me that I don't know how to play it and I told him to teach me, I don't see anything bad there

[Kommandant Schaefer]

repair matrix should be permanent