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[soulstriker09]

No, no don't say l2play, he's asking for a buff! Come on BSN!

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

Bolo Xia wrote...

funny how you guys are fogging the issue with this whole skill debate, sound like a bunch of kids in here.

anyway, i agree with CV about this character for the most part.
i think this character needs more fitness, even just a little would go a long way.

Well said, the kit could use some axle grease.

Hard to believe people doubting that Crimson has skill with any class... dude is a beast.

[Titus Thongger]

He should at least get DR during smash or have the animation play out a bit quicker.

[Clips7]

Naw...i love my phoenix vanguard...that is all i play with on silver and the majority of the time i can top the board with him. I make short work of dragoons and Phantoms while everybody else is running for cover. His Smash shreds enemies health...you just have to know when to use it.

I never tried him at the higher levels, that is reserved for my slayer...

[longgamma]

Clips7 wrote...
I never tried him at the higher levels, that is reserved for my slayer...

Then why did you post? . The OP scored 160k in a tough map for the PV. Obviously he knows what he is talking about. 
Tell you what, try the same map and faction and I am sure you would change your mind:devil:

[Clips7]

longgamma wrote...

Clips7 wrote...
I never tried him at the higher levels, that is reserved for my slayer...

Then why did you post? . The OP scored 160k in a tough map for the PV. Obviously he knows what he is talking about. 
Tell you what, try the same map and faction and I am sure you would change your mind:devil:

Haha...i will do just that...gold and cerb faction on London map!!

Modifié par Clips7, 08 mars 2013 - 05:46 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

I still think Biotic charge -> Heavy melee gives him huge advantage over other vanguards.

Just my thoughts.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I still think Biotic charge -> Heavy melee gives him huge advantage over other vanguards.

Just my thoughts.

Then you are exposed to enemies without any protection. Kroguard and Batguard have super shield + DR + DR from Heavy Melee, Slayer has super DR from his melee plus hes an all-range fighter and has higher mobility. Other Vanguards don't depend on heavy melee to kill stuff.

Modifié par Crimson Vanguard, 08 mars 2013 - 05:50 .

[Original Twigman]

Cerberus Vangaurd is fun

...not good....

[Oni Changas]

DR is irrelevant on a character with AoE heavy melee. Everything's being knocked back even moreso post charge.

[Tallgeese_VII]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I still think Biotic charge -> Heavy melee gives him huge advantage over other vanguards.

Just my thoughts.

Then you are exposed to enemies without any protection. Kroguard and Batguard have super shield + DR + DR from Heavy Melee, Slayer has super DR from his melee plus hes an all-range fighter and has higher mobility. Other Vanguards don't depend on heavy melee to kill stuff.

Kroguard / Batguards are different from Phoenix. They are tanky face to face melee characters. Still not nearly as mobile as Phoenix Vanguard.

Phoenix requires really good equipments to be played safe above gold, but he has his own good place.

Acolyte (Incendiary) shot -> Biotic charge -> Heavy melee -> Biotic charge -> Smash -> Roll -> Biotic charge -> Acolyte -> heavy melee...
what I am trying to say is this basic combo alone makes him very exceptional close range fight character.

He is totally different from other grenade throwing vanguards.. and he is definitely better choice for melee vanguard than Slayer if you are not hosting.

In my opinion he is not worst Vanguard but just different. I think worst Vanguard is Cabal ran out of grenade.


Funny thing is.. from anniversary statistic image, BW treats that ex-cerberus character being rare in ME3 MP as some kind of lore friendly element.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I still think Biotic charge -> Heavy melee gives him huge advantage over other vanguards.

Just my thoughts.

Then you are exposed to enemies without any protection. Kroguard and Batguard have super shield + DR + DR from Heavy Melee, Slayer has super DR from his melee plus hes an all-range fighter and has higher mobility. Other Vanguards don't depend on heavy melee to kill stuff.

Kroguard / Batguards are different from Phoenix. They are tanky face to face melee characters. Still not nearly as mobile as Phoenix Vanguard.

Phoenix requires really good equipments to be played safe above gold, but he has his own good place.

Acolyte (Incendiary) shot -> Biotic charge -> Heavy melee -> Biotic charge -> Smash -> Roll -> Biotic charge -> Acolyte -> heavy melee...
what I am trying to say is this basic combo alone makes him very exceptional close range fight character.

He is totally different from other grenade throwing vanguards.. and he is definitely better choice for melee vanguard than Slayer if you are not hosting.

In my opinion he is not worst Vanguard but just different. I think worst Vanguard is Cabal ran out of grenade.


Funny thing is.. from anniversary statistic image, BW treats that ex-cerberus character being rare in ME3 MP as some kind of lore friendly element.

Any Pyjak with an Acolyte can survive Gold. In my demonstrating match I was using Wraith alone. If you gonna use Acolyte, N7 Slayer: Acolyte -> Phase Disruptor -> Killstreak. Mobility? Don't make me laugh. Of all the dodgeable Vanguard, he is among the squishiest and slowest.

Modifié par Crimson Vanguard, 08 mars 2013 - 06:06 .

[darkpassenger2342]

i dont think hes a bad character, per se, but in comparison to the others, yeah

[Tallgeese_VII]

But i do use wraith with him as well.
Acolyte is not free win ticket either. If the character synergies well with it it should ve used.

[Mightyg]

Just did a search of all the ex cerberus and phoenix threads and the devs have never commented on any of them lol.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

But i do use wraith with him as well.
Acolyte is not free win ticket either. If the character synergies well with it it should ve used.

Tell me one character that doesn't synergy well with Acolyte?

[Mightyg]

Geth Engineer.

[Crimson Vanguard]

Mightyg wrote...

Geth Engineer.

Acolyte with Incendiary Ammo -> shoot into group of enemies -> Overload -> multiple fire explosions. Next.

Modifié par Crimson Vanguard, 08 mars 2013 - 06:21 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

Any character that can wipe off enemy shield has little use for acolyte unless using it for phantom.
I have no intention of saying u r wrong, but it seems like u really want to make ur opinion fact.

[mandalorian sun]

tutzdes wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...
Ever heard about Biotic Hammer?

Biotic Hammer does no damage at all :}
Every time I use this ability my Krolord just scratches his back. He's much better at meleeing after scratching his back though.

He must feel really itchy in his huge metal can.

hahahahaha

[Crimson Vanguard]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Any character that can wipe off enemy shield has little use for acolyte unless using it for phantom.
I have no intention of saying u r wrong, but it seems like u really want to make ur opinion fact.

My point is people should stop putting weapon like Acolyte, Reegar on a character and call that a build.

[JewelsWinnfield]

Not as good as other Vanguards? Agreed, but they are fun as hell to play (especially in a full Phoenix team):

Modifié par Hendrix137, 08 mars 2013 - 06:26 .

[JiceDuresh]

I had to play him a bunch to level up Vanguard recently.

I wonder if anyone has actaully taken him with Evolution 6A after the buff, the one where you have a 50% chance to cause no cooldown. I did, and I guess I'm rare, cause I found BioCharge with an instant smash at the end half the time to be a pretty big deal. And if it fails, his heavy melee stuns everything around him without that stupid butt wiggle at the end.

I don't know, I found him to be pretty unique for a Vanguard that way.

Modifié par JiceDuresh, 08 mars 2013 - 06:29 .

[Crimson Vanguard]

He's really fun to play with. But the problem is you are so vulnerable to enemy unlike other Vanguards. That turned the fun in him into frustration.

[mandalorian sun]

Ziegrif wrote...

Boog_89 wrote...

I hate it when people do this! Post a screenshot showing they finished top with a crap class/gun as if it somehow proves that it is not outclassed. What is the point? 

I think it CV posted it so he'd show that he could use the class and by that could talk about it.
Validation through experience.

classy, lay it down in proffesional words, a kernel of wisdom. Very anime