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#476
KeSpErTiVe

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I bought a new HDD yesterday then I installed win 7 ultimate 64-bit and the loading time is like 1 min

and the game is lagging in some areas...

It was fine on my old HDD...I used Win XP professional 32-bit on it.

BTW every game running fine except ME2.

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The last patch seems to have fixed the long load times for me, however I'm still getting some pretty low fps in some areas. A least the game is somewhat more playable now.

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IbanSarawak

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i see this problem mostly in Windows 7 either 32 bit and 64 bit. after experience a problem with Win 7, i revert back to win XP.no more lag gameplay but long loading time time still there. due respect, Windows XP still the best OS platform for gaming, less resourse consume and the important thing is it compatibility with old and new hardware.



the developer likely using win XP as they main test run platform.

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Zoe Dedweth

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Really - All my problems dissapeared when I went to Windows 7 64bit ultimate.

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yeah, the load times are better. but i still have incredible amounts of lagging during gameplay. i am running win 7 64bit too.

#481
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Can we now have a thread entitled "Gathering information for drastic game slowdown after 30mins of playing" thanks BIOWARE.

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Yep, severe FPS drop after playing for a while, which ironically affects loading times as the CPU is now bogged down by a different bug that is causing performance issues rather then just long load times.

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Seeing severe FPS drop after only about 5-10 minutes in game after 2 fights. Game is stuttering so much I can hardly play. Downloaded AMD Overdrive and tweaked as recommended by another thread, but issue remains



Specs -

CPU: Phenom quad-core 9500

Ram: 4GB

GPU: 2x ATI 3850s, Xfire configuration

OS: Windows XP 64 bit



Running patch level 1.3 through Steam.


#484
Batviper

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The load times seem much better now but I noticed it still gets longer after sometime,though it's progressing slowly now.



I also noticed something,for some reason when I was exiting a shop like Janar Armorers in Orzammar it takes a long time for the loading text to appear.After learning about the affinity fix for Mass Effect 2(I am using a Dual-Core Cpu) I tried disabling one core for the game and then enabling it again and now when I exit shops it loads very fast.It seems to me Dragon Age shares this bug with Mass Effect 2.I am not sure if it affects only the loading times when exiting shops or loading times in general though.Still it might be worth a try for those who are still having loading problems.

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"Loading times getting gradually slower" bug might be partly fixed, but as far as I can see the game works slower now. I'm not sure what was done to it from a technical point of view as no developer studio shares such an information, but - as it's my second time with mage ( trying to re-make my previous save before the expansion goes live ) - I can say that even in the starting location of that class, you can experience 'lags' and slowdowns. I do seem to be first in line to experience the problem, as my hardware is a bit old ( P4 2.8Ghz HT and 1.5GB Ram are what would make a difference here - old-new 3850HD ATI card seems fine ), but I know how it had worked before applying the patch and there was no slowdown at all.

Hopefully, we will see those aspects working as expected, but it will probably take another month or two to figure where the problems are and then polishing code, so will those never come back again. But for now, we can play semi-enjoyable ( in my case ) game.





Best regards, M4ksiu.

#486
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Personally I don't think it will ever get fixed until they stop pumping out DLC and expansions, and get the whole team to look back at the code and rework it.



There's probably some poor guy chained to his desk in the basement working 24-7 by himself trying to work out a solution, while everyone else is pitching and working on DLC content..."and" DA2.

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M4ksiu

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Yea, sounds like the case. I just tried to spend my time testing the new patch again. I managed to get to the point in which we are obliged to defend the tower. Crossing the bridge, getting to gate, listening to two guards and getting inside the tower pre-area and ... I ran out of patience. The glitches were so major I couldn't stand and play the game. Got like ( supposedly ) 10 fps and such a situation had never had place before applying the patch ( unless I'd played an hour or more and felt what apparently this thread is about ). I'm honestly and regrettably gonna resign from DA:O and DA:A ( I do not expect it to be any better for now ) until the situation gets a lil' bit better. Not that anybody cares and not that I do expect any cheering up, but with every patch-step we get new and more serious issues that should be polished in a testing phase - especially if those have / had place in a wide variety of cases and CANNOT be missed - and - with all due respect - are frustrating players all around the world that are base and precious of every community, including this. All-in-all, I find it completely disrespectful and ignorant ( I might be wrong, but these are my feelings ) of Bioware that DA community must face the situation of that kind without being sure that it will ever be resolved ( remember that the problem was reported the very day the game was released ).
The bottom line should and would be about policy change, but the pool of crying, whining and complaining I put in this post is more than sufficient and - even in this form - can be awful and annoying for some. I hope you'll not find it a reason for yet another flame war, but as always constructive comments are always welcome.


Best regards, M4ksiu.


P.s. I do not find developers' job easy, but you must admit that communication between the community and Bioware is what mostly makes the situation so tense and incomprehensible.


Edit: I've encountered another issue that had never been seen by me before. It seems that now there's quite a chance to get stuck in location loading screen. I've already had 3 situations of that kind and I must admit I got disgusted as I do not save my progress very often ( 1 time per 20 minutes or something ) and these happened everytime when my progress was unsaved. This is getting worse and I feel out of my eagerness to do any further tests. Sorry.

Modifié par M4ksiu, 14 mars 2010 - 03:03 .


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I have had the freezing loading screens for the last 2-3 weeks - thought the patch would correct it - but I can't even install the patch - getting an error 36 message - I have awakening pre ordered but am dreading the results...Agree with M4Ksiu - haven't had any response from my submits to any of the support websites - sometimes reading through the (very long threads...) there are jewels of wisdom but they haven't helped me and they have been from my fellow players - nothing from Bioware or EA -frustrating as heck. Problems all started when I downloaded the patch so I could play the DLC and have gotten progressively worse

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IbanSarawak wrote...

i see this problem mostly in Windows 7 either 32 bit and 64 bit. after experience a problem with Win 7, i revert back to win XP.no more lag gameplay but long loading time time still there. due respect, Windows XP still the best OS platform for gaming, less resourse consume and the important thing is it compatibility with old and new hardware.

the developer likely using win XP as they main test run platform.


Still having the loading time issue on XP.

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UltimoCrofto

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Well the patch definitely made the game a lot better for me; it's certainly possible to play for over an hour now and not have ridiculous loading times. However, the problem does still exist since last night I played the game for around 4-5 hours and noticed a return to overly long loading screens whilst in Orzammar.

Of course, having to reboot the game every 4 hours instead of every 1 hour is much less annoying, so I'm mostly happy for now. A full fix would be nice, mind, but I'm willing to say thanks to BioWare for at least attempt a fix. Would be cool if they could keep giving us updates on the situation though, so people don't think they're constantly ignoring us.

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They do not say the fixed all problems that can cause the long load times. They only say they fixed one of the major causes of it. There are probably some other memory leaks of a much less severe nature that still exist and have yet to be found/debugged.

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M4ksiu

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Nobody denies that, but the side problems that appeared after applying the patch is what really bothers us. The community provides full support, but none is given back to the community. Nobody likes to be part of a so relation. Neither do we. And pretending to be blind and deaf is never a good way out of the situation or smoothly working workaround. Whichever path has developers chosen - in my eyes this is not going to anywhere, but dead end.
Sorry for being so negatively set to the current situation, but I cannot understand how someone ( company ) can be so quiet when thunders pound his shelter and others throw dirt on so-called good name. On his place I'd feel obliged to stop this process in the best possible way.
 


Best regards, M4ksiu.

Modifié par M4ksiu, 15 mars 2010 - 06:55 .


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I agree with M4ksiu in his last 2 posts Bioware/EA deserves a big FAIL in this game. M4ksiu remembered a very good point, the load issue was reported right when the game was released and after months of hundred of customers crying, with no answer I might add, they only release a patch several months later that in my opnion created more problems than solved it.



This topic deserve much more than a "flame war". How can a company release a product with that many problems, I spent my money in this game for what? Not getting a deserved response? Not being able to play? Honestly this game is a big FAIL and so is Bioware and EA.

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Gen.Jake wrote...

This topic deserve much more than a "flame war". How can a company release a product with that many problems, I spent my money in this game for what? Not getting a deserved response? Not being able to play? Honestly this game is a big FAIL and so is Bioware and EA.


Google: Command & Conquer Zero Hour 1.04
EA at its finest.

Modifié par TheSmilingDude, 17 mars 2010 - 01:23 .


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This topic deserve much more than a "flame war". How can a company release a product with that many problems, I spent my money in this game for what? Not getting a deserved response? Not being able to play? Honestly this game is a big FAIL and so is Bioware and EA.


You cant blame developers and of course publishers for the PC market, so much different hardware differentiations its impossible to check all of them.

I am sure Bioware wants everyone to enjoy DA:O without any problems, but pinpointing a problem like this is a needle in the haystack, so they have to gather the information from other people on hardware etc to see a common connection that they can then try to see if they can fix.

I get the bad loading times also, but on my other PC not a problem. Is it a GPU problem? Perhaps. Is it a SATA problem? Perhaps. Is it a page file issue? Perhaps. Is it a windows problem? Again perhaps. There is other possibilities.

So I can understand your frustrations but you have to realise even though you are a bit miffed, taking your anger out on Bioware and EA wont solve anything.

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M4ksiu

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DABhand wrote...

This topic deserve much more than a "flame war". How can a company release a product with that many problems, I spent my money in this game for what? Not getting a deserved response? Not being able to play? Honestly this game is a big FAIL and so is Bioware and EA.


You cant blame developers and of course publishers for the PC market, so much different hardware differentiations its impossible to check all of them.

I am sure Bioware wants everyone to enjoy DA:O without any problems, but pinpointing a problem like this is a needle in the haystack, so they have to gather the information from other people on hardware etc to see a common connection that they can then try to see if they can fix.

I get the bad loading times also, but on my other PC not a problem. Is it a GPU problem? Perhaps. Is it a SATA problem? Perhaps. Is it a page file issue? Perhaps. Is it a windows problem? Again perhaps. There is other possibilities.

So I can understand your frustrations but you have to realise even though you are a bit miffed, taking your anger out on Bioware and EA wont solve anything.

We cannot for lack of support ? I don't think so. We do not demand anything, but frank discussion. We get none and due to that we cannot say what Bioware intentions are. This problem is wide and common. Trust me, it could've not been missed during tests. Of course, variety of possible source of the problem is obviously making things harder to track, but that does not explain the silence and ignorance - just as we see it - that Bioware seems to be showing. Not to mention that the community's been more than helpful and provided anything that could be found useful to the developers, but yet again they've got no reponse. This is going toward management and company policy discussion and that's how our complains should be read. Developers' work's hard, but not undoable. They are professionals and did really great job on the game. But they missed glitches that take a lot time to get fixed. Nobody and nothing is perfect, but we cannot be lenient when we cannot be sure that something is gonna change the situation - and we're back on track to the wonderland of community-company dialog.


Best regards, M4ksiu.

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Was reading the read me in awakening and it said to reinstall DAO (I uninstalled everything except my saved games) and then install Awakening (awakening comes with patch 1.03 - maybe not as buggy? may have been problems with patch 2? or both of them together?) - but did it and everything started working again... yesterday... - So that may be a fix. However now my paid for downloads are saying they are unauthorized... after I played them yesterday...Argh!

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 This is how I solved my loading times problem:

http://www.newegg.co...7-395-_-Product


Bioware owes me 300 bux.

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IbanSarawak

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enough of test run...finally my loading time decrease rapidly from 1 minute to 15 second only and also smooth gameplay and less lagging this time.already install awakening and ready to play the next chapter.



i wonder how this game really work well with 4 years old junk pc and doesn't work well with latest pc hardware.no offense,should decent rig can play the latest game without glitch.my rig are totally in category junk pc...right now can't afford to upgrade.



Pentium 4 3.0 Ghz with HT

Windows XP 32-bit

2 GB of Ram

Radeon X1650 512 Agp Pro OC

160 GB WD Sata

80 GB Maxtor Ide




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Win7 64-bit here, Pre-ordered game, got it on day 1, Haven't finished it since, I was so excited to play it, now it seems like a choir, two areas in and Loading times are hitting the 10 minute mark, And just now I decided to try and play again, did they at least fix the crash at ostragar or whatever its called? Is it Bioware that has always sucked this much? or is it just games that are released by EA? because between the ATI **** on Shift, and AMD crap on DA:O, you'd think someone was not doing their job, why do these companies allow this to happen? any other industry in the world fires incompetent people and replaces them with someone that actually know what they're doing.

Wow, I can't believe I actually paid for this game, If i wanted to pay to watch a loading screen for 10+ minutes at a time, I'd have stayed with AOL as my ISP, well, that's what I get for being the idiot who wants to be a legitimate costumer, I also got boned by Ubisoft and their "always on" DRM, Most of the time I'm spending not being able to play because their retarded DRM server keeps crashing or clogging or whatever the hell is happening with that incompetent lot, It seems to be a new trend, making games that don't work.

Screw it, I'm turning to piracy, If the game is going to be unplayable, at least I know i'm not paying for bugs, You want me to pay for a game, Bioware? get your **** together, You want piracy to stop? PROTIP: you're doing it wrong, You stop piracy by Giving people a product they absolutely want to buy no matter what, you don't do it by giving them a half-assed product that makes them wish they bought a revolver to stick in their mouth and pull the trigger instead.

Modifié par DemonicArc, 18 mars 2010 - 05:15 .