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#201
IbanSarawak

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startup 7 occurance ( 132 bytes )



HeapAlloc 6 occurance ( 3192 bytes )



HeapAlloc 6 occurance ( 3192 bytes )



HeapAlloc 6 occurance ( 3192 bytes )



HeapAlloc 6 occurance ( 3192 bytes )



HeapAlloc 3 occurance ( 420 bytes )



HeapAlloc 3 occurance ( 1596 bytes )



Startup ( 22 bytes )



HeapAlloc daorigins.exe ( 833617920 bytes )** 795 MB



HeapAlloc daorigins.exe ( 57671680 bytes ) 55 MB



Malloc ( 1236 bytes )



Using runtimechecker. You can see here daorigins.exe ** using huge amount of memory, almost exceed 800 MB. what you people say? please comment.



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#202
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MOTpoetryION wrote...

OK this is a joke or more like they are turning into one .But they say they cant reproduce this , really .any moron could come up with the idea to. Just copy someones build of computer/OS/video card/etc/etc/make/model.

And guess what you just might be able to then reproduce the problem. Are there no thinkers working for you guys.You guys do have money now you cant hide that because we gave it to you Im just to trying to cover all angles.

It shouldn't be that difficult there are  Allot of different builds and then you Add them   up(thats the + key) just how many times( e.g the name Nadia is mentioned for someones video card/ sound,and Mobo or do i need to tell you Mobo stands for Motherboard). And when your done you take the BIGGEST number of everything component. 

.AND maybe i don't know? buy that brand maybe . for a Test computer . That might make it easier for you. But if thats to hard i guess one of the community, could get the numbers for you.

And if you have any problems we WILL have a community member waiting eagerly to assist you with any problem you may have, we are here 24/7/365 /366 days a year  for your wallet i mean gaming pleasure.

signed not EAImage IPB

PS 
 
And thank you fer your support ...lmaoImage IPB


So here is an interesting bit.  I have multiple systems of very similar spec.  I only see the problem on one system.  The highest end system of the lot.  (Of COURSE it is the highest end one, it is my GAMING system. :D)

So, given that I am only seeing it on 20% of the systems I have in my house, I can totally see how it might be missed since it is not seen on 80% of systems out there.  Also, if this thread is any indication (number of people responding to it versus forum members) I suspect that the actual percentage is much lower than 20%.

I suppose I could install it on the other 3 systems here to increase my sample size, and maybe even build a few more, but I suppose my point is made.

And, FWIW, my load time gets upward of 15-20 minutes at certain parts of the game.  I *GET* the frustration.

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that why i think its a good place to start by crunching the numbers they would have a better chance i think to repeating the issue. but to tell you the truth I'm even if they would reimburse me am willing to let my rig go. if it would make it easier for them. and i love my rig believe me .And ive read your posts so i know your situation But for a hard vore gammer willing to go to that extream to get a game fixed it's a pretty sad day

i disagree with the lower then 20% just because there are do many fanbois out there that would never admit that there is anything wronge with the game at all while lying through their teeth. i think the % is higher

Modifié par MOTpoetryION, 03 février 2010 - 08:08 .


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Hello, this is happening to my PC also.



by reading this forum i am starting to suspect that this may be a software conflict issue.



is anyone else using avg with win7 64bit and Logitech game panel for a g15 keyboard?

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dear people, i would like to say it is not your rig problem but it's the game itself. even a super computer will have a problem with this game, it's because bad coding. i just enter mass effect 2 forum and what, it's has similar problem with the dragon age. long loading time and other problem. gamers like us do really want to play smooth game. many of us here burn their wallet just to upgrade their rig to play the latest game.

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IbanSarawak wrote...

dear people, i would like to say it is not your rig problem but it's the game itself. even a super computer will have a problem with this game, it's because bad coding. i just enter mass effect 2 forum and what, it's has similar problem with the dragon age. long loading time and other problem. gamers like us do really want to play smooth game. many of us here burn their wallet just to upgrade their rig to play the latest game.


<sarcasm>That is great to know, because ME2 is very visibly a different code base than DA:O.</sarcasm>  If you are seeing this with ME2 and it were bad code, then you would be seeing it with other Unreal Tournament games, right?

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So we are going on a few months now with no fix for this issue. DAO has pretty much collected dust for me.

32 bit Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.090803-2339)
AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
3070MB RAM
Page File: 1718MB used, 4635MB available
DirectX 11
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX VRAM 768
1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Creative SB X-Fi

Running DAO
1680 x 1050
Graphic Detail Very High
AA x 8
Texture Detail High
Full- Screen
Vertical Sync On
Frame Buffer Effects On

All Drviers are current and Game is Current.

I still experience Slow Downs after about an hrs worth a play and occasional CTD.100 % Processor issue is still there. Yes my Rig is not Newer but, more then capable of running this game.

Modifié par Apex Sammoth, 03 février 2010 - 08:48 .


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Sakura_Kira

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IHello, this is happening to my PC also.

by reading this
forum i am starting to suspect that this may be a software conflict
issue.

is anyone else using avg with win7 64bit and
Logitech game panel for a g15 keyboard?.


Hmm this is Interesting. I use the Logitech Panel for my G9x Mouse and Win7 x64.
Maybe I try installing it on the laptop and see if loadtimes increase (don't have the issiue on my laptop).

Modifié par Sakura_Kira, 03 février 2010 - 09:06 .


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coredragon wrote...

Hello, this is happening to my PC also.

by reading this forum i am starting to suspect that this may be a software conflict issue.

is anyone else using avg with win7 64bit and Logitech game panel for a g15 keyboard?


Me

I have shut down AVG though and it didn't help.

Modifié par Lord Polish, 03 février 2010 - 11:33 .


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ok, a disclaimer here before anyone jumps on me. i have played the game on at least 6 different computers and i only know specifics for one of them, the others i can roughly estimate (one of them is my own, the other 5 at a "net cafe" where i first played DA:O) and i am perfectly aware the info given for my own pc may not be helpful at all

Operating System: WINE (1.1.37) in WinXP or Win2k mode (tried both) for my own PC (Gentoo Linux), WinXP fully updated for the others
RAM: 6GB for my own PC, 2GB for the others
CPU: i7 for my own, unknown intel processor for the others (well above recommended though)
Graphics card: Nvidia GTX 295 for me, random versions of Nvidia 9600 for the others

disk activity appeared to be normal in all PCs during loading times, leading me to agree with the assumption that it has nothing to do with the disk at all

haven't tried yet to force the game to run on a single CPU but will give it a shot, both on my PC and the net cafe ones but CPU load so far appears consistent with that of similar games, no weird spikes or anything

as for how long it takes before the delay starts? it depends entirely on the areas i have visited and their state at the time. usually it ranges from an hour and a half to two and a half hours... at which point i have seen loading screens jump from 10 seconds to 10 minutes (more like 9.48 but yeah) Denerim Market and Orzammar Commons appear to be the usual suspects, but every area in the game is affected... with the exception of Camp where it loads in roughly half the time regardless of delays

the bug is impossible NOT to replicate on any of the machines i have tried and behaves exactly the same regardless of the presence or lack thereof of any DLC/mods. it happens every single time in both windowed and fullscreen mode making it virtually impossible to continue play without restarting the game

#211
IbanSarawak

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well, you can assume that is only affected cpu and memory. hard disk is nothing to do with it. it has something to do with memory not release completely from the map after you exit and jump to other area. i could see no other possibilities than memory thing. about cpu, this is the best part. my cpu temp jump from 55c to 65c using stock heatsink,luckily it's northwood pentium 4.



one thing i don't understand, why bioware are not keen to solve the problem either way let the da fan boy and girl solve it. when the witcher got this problem, using different game engine as i remember using aurora engine, their seem solved it with release a few patch and finally re-work the game, so born the witcher enchanced edition and problem solved. they should use the witcher as the example.



if you have above the recommended requirement spec to play the game, don't worry, it's not your rig problem. like i was mention before, you can throw everything at it.

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I just finished the game and the landsmeet and final battle was the absolute worst.. The loading times took up to 20min. I sat there and watched a whole tv show till it loaded.. and then I had to open another door which took another 20min.



Restarting the game doesn`t make loads any shorter like some people said. I have persistent gore off graphics all on low, the sparkly affects is off.. ughh.. I`m not gonna play this game anymore.. I was really patient for this playthrough mainly because I was watching anime most of the time and I didn`t get to enjoy the game because most of my time spent on it was at the loading screens.

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IbanSarawak wrote...
one thing i don't understand, why bioware are not keen to solve the problem either way let the da fan boy and girl solve it. 


Seriously, since you are so whiz-bang at this stuff.  What games have you put out?  If you are as good as you claim, I am sure that they are best sellers.  Also, why haven't you posted your fix in the "Projects" area?  You have had months to work on it.  Isn't it ready yet?

Or maybe you should let the professionals do their job?

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so is there a solution for this? or just fricking floating around posts

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IbanSarawak

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i have a idea. why not we make our own patch?


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IbanSarawak wrote...

i have a idea. why not we make our own patch?

Did you really miss that this is what I was inviting you to do?  Put up or shut up.  Provide the fix that you keep claiming is so easy, or admit that maybe it isn't.

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ok to star: Apex your 8800 isnt DX 11 approved nor running. Ok from here I found another instance of the "Memory Leak". Im using EADM for Mass Effect, DA:O and all addons, and Sims 3 + Battlefield 2, 2142 and all addons. My main gaming PC is suffering load times and video lag on ALL of these. *almost forgot Spore as well. ** oh and Crysis too!



All of these are Digital Distro versions of games. All run great at first. Then go bad the more its played. Only thing they all have in common is EADM.exe. More precisely the Core.exe running in background.



Is it possible that the whole issue is brought about by the EA Download Manager? Are we all using it for some game or another and while its running (the Core.exe mainly) thats causing us this backlash?

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Jfool wrote...
All of these are Digital Distro versions of games. All run great at first. Then go bad the more its played. Only thing they all have in common is EADM.exe. More precisely the Core.exe running in background. 

Is it possible that the whole issue is brought about by the EA Download Manager? Are we all using it for some game or another and while its running (the Core.exe mainly) thats causing us this backlash?


Mine is not a digital download, and I am not running EADM at all.  Plus, the game is only taking up 1GB of my 4GB memory.  It IS, however, running at ~65% of my CPU (all 4 cores) right from the get go, and it only gets worse, but then all 4 cores drop in activity during the long loading time.

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Lord Polish wrote...

coredragon wrote...

Hello, this is happening to my PC also.

by reading this forum i am starting to suspect that this may be a software conflict issue.

is anyone else using avg with win7 64bit and Logitech game panel for a g15 keyboard?


Me

I have shut down AVG though and it didn't help.


unfortunately avg doesn't stop when you kill it, the processes start up again very shortly after.

you may have to uninstall it temporarily to test this. :(

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IbanSarawak

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anybody knows what "FlushFileBuffers" ?

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Jfool wrote...

ok to star: Apex your 8800 isnt DX 11 approved nor running. Ok from here I found another instance of the "Memory Leak". Im using EADM for Mass Effect, DA:O and all addons, and Sims 3 + Battlefield 2, 2142 and all addons. My main gaming PC is suffering load times and video lag on ALL of these. *almost forgot Spore as well. ** oh and Crysis too!

All of these are Digital Distro versions of games. All run great at first. Then go bad the more its played. Only thing they all have in common is EADM.exe. More precisely the Core.exe running in background.

Is it possible that the whole issue is brought about by the EA Download Manager? Are we all using it for some game or another and while its running (the Core.exe mainly) thats causing us this backlash?


I know it's not DX 11 Approved thats is just the version that is installed.

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Win7 Home Prem x64

Athlon 2 x4 620

4 GB RAM

8600 GT

All drivers are current. BIOS is current.



Same issue with the slow downs, from the outset of installation. One up the issue, it causes the whole system to slow down, even on the reboot (no other game installed or program does this). After the reboot, the system is fine. Issue occurs after a few hours, with load times varying from 40 sec to 4 min. The system is well ventilated and the VidCard has a 120 blowing to it and 80 sucking.



I'm attempting the Phenom II fix pack and .net 4.2 to see if these help, however, I don't have high hopes. I've owned almost all BioWare games and am a bit disheartened with the issue.

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I would like to add another bit of info to my orginal post.

I've noticed that the games performance seems to degrade in relation to the load time increase - they seem like they are connected. Towards the end of a long play time (5-6 hrs) the game performance is terrible as is the long load time. A restart brings the game to fluid smooth as well as a quick load.



See previous post by me for system spec.

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Initial loading time: 8 s

Final loading time: 2 min 30 s

4GB (3.2GB usable)

Hard drive light not blinking



CPU: Phenom II X4 B50

Video: Nvidia 8800GT



My problem was fixed by exiting to menu and loading saved game. I do that every half hour.

#225
IbanSarawak

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This is the final bloom post process effect that Dean Andersen and

Daniel Torres designed for the Aurora version of Dragon Age. Here,

it serves as an initial experiment for the design of a framebuffer

effect object, or series of objects for the Eclipse Engine.(postprocesseffect.erf)



still working on finding the system processing file....