As per the lead designer that simply means your Shepard lives
Minimalist approach sucks, blame Mac Walters
ME3 is over...what the hell was the rubble scene about?
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#52
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:23
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The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
#53
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:24
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anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
#54
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:26
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anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
retroactive foreshadowing ...
in other words: somebody wrote unexplainable crap, that needed to be claridfied later.
imo, the comment was a side blow to the fanbase.
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#55
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:27
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Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
#56
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:30
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Dr_Extrem wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
retroactive foreshadowing ...
in other words: somebody wrote unexplainable crap, that needed to be claridfied later.
imo, the comment was a side blow to the fanbase.
I'm at peace with the breath scene now that Shepard got that tatoo. Now I know he will be ok under the rubble
#57
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:30
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Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
Most of the LIs in the Citadel DLC make some allusion to finding Shepard no matter what, after the war.
Jack's is the most explicit in this because she says "if you're ever buried beneath the rubble at the ass-end of this war..."
Seems like BioWare's mea culpa - they don't want to add to the breath scene, but they've added these little things as an assurance to players that everything will work out if they want it to.
Still a cop-out, but it reads like a peace offering.
#58
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:30
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anorling wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. SWEET! It's just like how the Leviathan dlc made the ending okay. I love this new retroactive foreshadowing technique BioWare are using. It's really artistic and original! And it just, works!
#59
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:30
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that was put in there simply to give fans hope.
really though they should never have put it in because then we got indoctrination theory because of it.
in reality we can assume shepard dies in every choice, the guy was bleeding out as it was and then had the destroy reactor blow up in his face basically.
I think it was there intention to have shepard ultimately make the sacrifice of his own life for the galaxy
really though they should never have put it in because then we got indoctrination theory because of it.
in reality we can assume shepard dies in every choice, the guy was bleeding out as it was and then had the destroy reactor blow up in his face basically.
I think it was there intention to have shepard ultimately make the sacrifice of his own life for the galaxy
#60
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:31
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Playing DLC Citadel --> Hearing Shepard's quote "Every day after" 
and getting ring from EDI --> Instaling MEHEM mode ASAP.
and getting ring from EDI --> Instaling MEHEM mode ASAP.
#61
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:31
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anorling wrote...
Dr_Extrem wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
retroactive foreshadowing ...
in other words: somebody wrote unexplainable crap, that needed to be claridfied later.
imo, the comment was a side blow to the fanbase.
I'm at peace with the breath scene now that Shepard got that tatoo. Now I know he will be ok under the rubble
i am ok with it, because i substituated it against a full blown reunion. minimalisic aproaches suck - do it right or dont do it at all.
#62
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:32
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Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. SWEET! It's just like how the Leviathan dlc made the ending okay. I love this new retroactive foreshadowing technique BioWare are using. It's really artistic and original! And it just, works!
and you get it almost for free!!!!
we are so lucky!!
#63
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:35
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Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. SWEET! It's just like how the Leviathan dlc made the ending okay. I love this new retroactive foreshadowing technique BioWare are using. It's really artistic and original! And it just, works!
and you get it almost for free!!!!
we are so lucky!!
I know right! Most other companies would try to sell us side stories that are completely irrelevant for unreasonable amounts of money. But not BioWare, all their dlc's are definitely worth the price of admission and they pertain strictly to the overarching plot allow the game to feel much more thorough and fleshed out with it all.
#64
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:38
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Jadebaby wrote...
Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. SWEET! It's just like how the Leviathan dlc made the ending okay. I love this new retroactive foreshadowing technique BioWare are using. It's really artistic and original! And it just, works!
and you get it almost for free!!!!
we are so lucky!!
I know right! Most other companies would try to sell us side stories that are completely irrelevant for unreasonable amounts of money. But not BioWare, all their dlc's are definitely worth the price of admission and they pertain strictly to the overarching plot allow the game to feel much more thorough and fleshed out with it all.
its miracle working .. i am glad, that there are comics and books with relevant informations as well.
so much information.
#65
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:38
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I jest of course. I still think that the breath scene as it is sucks ass
#66
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:45
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Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. SWEET! It's just like how the Leviathan dlc made the ending okay. I love this new retroactive foreshadowing technique BioWare are using. It's really artistic and original! And it just, works!
and you get it almost for free!!!!
we are so lucky!!
I know right! Most other companies would try to sell us side stories that are completely irrelevant for unreasonable amounts of money. But not BioWare, all their dlc's are definitely worth the price of admission and they pertain strictly to the overarching plot allow the game to feel much more thorough and fleshed out with it all.
its miracle working .. i am glad, that there are comics and books with relevant informations as well.
so much information.
That's the other thing they do really well, you never have to turn to comics or books to learn valuable information in the plot, it's all very detailed in-game, leaving the books to cover the very minor of details.
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Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:47
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All I care about is if the new ME game is any good, I'm just headcannon the entire last mission
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Posté 07 mars 2013 - 01:55
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Jadebaby wrote...
Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. SWEET! It's just like how the Leviathan dlc made the ending okay. I love this new retroactive foreshadowing technique BioWare are using. It's really artistic and original! And it just, works!
and you get it almost for free!!!!
we are so lucky!!
I know right! Most other companies would try to sell us side stories that are completely irrelevant for unreasonable amounts of money. But not BioWare, all their dlc's are definitely worth the price of admission and they pertain strictly to the overarching plot allow the game to feel much more thorough and fleshed out with it all.
its miracle working .. i am glad, that there are comics and books with relevant informations as well.
so much information.
That's the other thing they do really well, you never have to turn to comics or books to learn valuable information in the plot, it's all very detailed in-game, leaving the books to cover the very minor of details.
yeah .. like this beef-face in me3 ... vega .. it is totally clear, that he is a cool guy, the first time you see him. or the chick that is into anderson. totally clear.
#69
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 02:07
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Walsh1980 wrote...
I don't see it as ambiguous or open ended, I think it's pretty obvious... Shepard lives.
Does it suck we don't get to actually see him riding into the sunset? You bet, but I doubt they put it in there just ti show you his last breath.
+1 especially because low EMS destroy doesn't get the scene.
#70
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 02:12
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Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
Dr_Extrem wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
anorling wrote...
The breath scene is ok now because it was retroactively foreshadowed
Do tell!
http://www.youtube.c...lnFtZaw0#t=3m6s
Oh okay, now it all makes sense. SWEET! It's just like how the Leviathan dlc made the ending okay. I love this new retroactive foreshadowing technique BioWare are using. It's really artistic and original! And it just, works!
and you get it almost for free!!!!
we are so lucky!!
I know right! Most other companies would try to sell us side stories that are completely irrelevant for unreasonable amounts of money. But not BioWare, all their dlc's are definitely worth the price of admission and they pertain strictly to the overarching plot allow the game to feel much more thorough and fleshed out with it all.
its miracle working .. i am glad, that there are comics and books with relevant informations as well.
so much information.
That's the other thing they do really well, you never have to turn to comics or books to learn valuable information in the plot, it's all very detailed in-game, leaving the books to cover the very minor of details.
yeah .. like this beef-face in me3 ... vega .. it is totally clear, that he is a cool guy, the first time you see him. or the chick that is into anderson. totally clear.
Yea I know, because he has those tribal stats and huge lats. And plus, what cool guy doesn't beat up on their commanding officer while getting to know you?
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Posté 07 mars 2013 - 02:27
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A shame Bioware didn't really reward the fans who wanted to see Shepard alive.
A short Shepard scene would have been great.
It doesn't even have to effect Bioware's view on the ending.(choices, catalyst, ect.)
This is what i don't understand about Bioware, make a entire EC but don't care about the Shepard lives part.
He lives. I bought ME3guide before EC.
It clearly says Shepard survives not a last breath before he dies.
Bioware could make alot of fans happy with just a small scene of what happens to Shepard.
Something short, yet very well done like the final scene of the Citadel dlc would be great.
No need for babies and stuff like that, these are actually things that are acceptable(perhaps should be, can't keep every one happy with too much details/cheese) as head-canon.
A short Shepard scene would have been great.
It doesn't even have to effect Bioware's view on the ending.(choices, catalyst, ect.)
This is what i don't understand about Bioware, make a entire EC but don't care about the Shepard lives part.
He lives. I bought ME3guide before EC.
It clearly says Shepard survives not a last breath before he dies.
Bioware could make alot of fans happy with just a small scene of what happens to Shepard.
Something short, yet very well done like the final scene of the Citadel dlc would be great.
No need for babies and stuff like that, these are actually things that are acceptable(perhaps should be, can't keep every one happy with too much details/cheese) as head-canon.
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Posté 07 mars 2013 - 02:32
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I think that every ending should have gotten the breath scene, and still never explain it
Just to make everyone descend into the depths of insanity.
Just to make everyone descend into the depths of insanity.
Modifié par thepringle, 07 mars 2013 - 02:33 .
#73
Posté 07 mars 2013 - 02:36
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BleedingUranium wrote...
Shepard never left Earth. From Harbinger's beam until the breath scene was a mind battle with Harbinger for Shepard's soul.
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Posté 07 mars 2013 - 02:41
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I've played ME3 multiple times through. But the first playthrough I did was with no squaddies left from ME2. I can't remember now what my EMS was. So question - did the breath scene exist prior to the EC being released? Or was it added as a peace-offering to the furore from the fans?
I know that some people argue Shepard never left Earth after beam, etc, etc. It does stretch imagine that you could get up from that and walk about after all. But if he/she somehow did survive and was in that rubble, it's just really weird that none of the released DLC's expand on it. A military funeral for the greatest hero of Earth.
I know that some people argue Shepard never left Earth after beam, etc, etc. It does stretch imagine that you could get up from that and walk about after all. But if he/she somehow did survive and was in that rubble, it's just really weird that none of the released DLC's expand on it. A military funeral for the greatest hero of Earth.
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Posté 07 mars 2013 - 02:44
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FOX216BC wrote...
A shame Bioware didn't really reward the fans who wanted to see Shepard alive.
A short Shepard scene would have been great.
It doesn't even have to effect Bioware's view on the ending.(choices, catalyst, ect.)
This is what i don't understand about Bioware, make a entire EC but don't care about the Shepard lives part.
He lives. I bought ME3guide before EC.
It clearly says Shepard survives not a last breath before he dies.
Bioware could make alot of fans happy with just a small scene of what happens to Shepard.
Something short, yet very well done like the final scene of the Citadel dlc would be great.
No need for babies and stuff like that, these are actually things that are acceptable(perhaps should be, can't keep every one happy with too much details/cheese) as head-canon.
Yes, I bought this as well. and on pg 323 it states:
At 4,000 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers and "saved" Anderson, Shepard lives.
At 5,000 Readiness Rating, if you choose to destroy the Reapers and did not "save" Anderson, Shepard lives.
Note that saving Anderson is in quotes because you can't save him, but it doesn't say Shepard "lives". lol, because the "Reapers" don't exist do they.
