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-TC1989- wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

Get an achivement, ""Alone Time" did not romance anyone, you can have as much fun by yourself, can't you? "


Good idea, I didn't think about an achievement for staying single. I think there should be something given to the player if he remains alone, whether a scene or hell maybe a couple points added to your attribute of choice?


Get some good boy points to his attributes because he was a good boy and didn't have naughty time with anyone ;P. NPCs could comment about his desire to stay single too :P.

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-TC1989- wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

What happens in ME2 if you do not romance anyone in that game or ME1? I know your chosen LI from ME1 will be on a picture on the desk (that has got to be one of the most depressing scenes ever), but I don't think I've seen what happens if you romance no one in either game.


Question if you dont mind, I was actually fixen to start another playthrough for ME2. Is there a scene for that where the LI scene is supposed to happen, if you stay faithful?


do you mean your LI from me1? if so if you stay faithfull all you get is a contemplation sort of scene with you looking at there photo as you jump thru the omega 4 relay

still a nice touch tbh, as i normally stick true to the me1 romances an rarley touch the me2

Modifié par krul2k, 07 mars 2013 - 10:40 .


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krul2k wrote...

-TC1989- wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

What happens in ME2 if you do not romance anyone in that game or ME1? I know your chosen LI from ME1 will be on a picture on the desk (that has got to be one of the most depressing scenes ever), but I don't think I've seen what happens if you romance no one in either game.


Question if you dont mind, I was actually fixen to start another playthrough for ME2. Is there a scene for that where the LI scene is supposed to happen, if you stay faithful?


do you mean your LI from me1? if so if you stay faithfull all you get is a contemplation sort of scene with you looking at there photo as you jump thru the omega 4 relay


Oh okay thank you. For some reason I like having a "special" scene or something before the big mission.

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Chiramu wrote...

-TC1989- wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

Get an achivement, ""Alone Time" did not romance anyone, you can have as much fun by yourself, can't you? "


Good idea, I didn't think about an achievement for staying single. I think there should be something given to the player if he remains alone, whether a scene or hell maybe a couple points added to your attribute of choice?


Get some good boy points to his attributes because he was a good boy and didn't have naughty time with anyone ;P. NPCs could comment about his desire to stay single too :P.


lol Yeah there you go, that would make for an interesting playthrough. Especially if you have a Varric type character giving you a hard time for being a "good" boy.

Modifié par -TC1989-, 07 mars 2013 - 10:44 .


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I don't see what they could really do as an 'extra' that would compare with romance content. Romance content is optional. You pursue it if you wish but you're not penalized for opting not to pursue romance content. Therefore, they shouldn't be expected to make something of a bonus out of it either. Just my 2 copper.

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Why do we want to reward people for avoiding optional content? Next you'll suggest you should get a special DLC fr not buying DLC.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 07 mars 2013 - 11:23 .


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I still support the magical vibrator for single PCs.

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Commander Kurt wrote...
Should you also get a different fetch quest if you choose not to deliver the goods, or a different character to talk to and another assignment if you ignore the people with exclamation marks floating above their heads?


Why not? Just like doing something can have an effect, not doing something can also have an effect. It is very plausible that not doing a certain sidequest might lead to events that trigger a different sidequest. Implementing stuff like this makes the world feel much more alive.

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So you want a reward, for not doing something optional?

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JerZeyCJ2 wrote...
So you want a reward, for not doing something optional?


Why is everyone so hung up on it being a "reward"? Sidequests are part of the game's world. Just as doing them has some kind of consequence, not doing them should sometimes also have consequences.

It'd be nice if not romancing anyone had some kind of consequence beyond your simply not seeing the romance content.

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Lennard Testarossa wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...
So you want a reward, for not doing something optional?


Why is everyone so hung up on it being a "reward"? Sidequests are part of the game's world. Just as doing them has some kind of consequence, not doing them should sometimes also have consequences.

It'd be nice if not romancing anyone had some kind of consequence beyond your simply not seeing the romance content.


I could get on board with that. I think alot of people who want to stay single, want to see some kind of pay off as far as maybe a different direction of some kind in the story. I can see how being "alone" can maybe be of some consequence.

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Actually - I'd see it as a "reward" for being less of a self-centered focused hero.

The other side - is if they actually involved the LI in anything but the most puerile titillation - and punished a person concerned with LI's with hard choices.

The "reward" would be no decisions to make.

I agree wholeheartedly with Wynne on this topic.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

Actually - I'd see it as a "reward" for being less of a self-centered focused hero.

The other side - is if they actually involved the LI in anything but the most puerile titillation - and punished a person concerned with LI's with hard choices.

The "reward" would be no decisions to make.

I agree wholeheartedly with Wynne on this topic.

Wynne changes her mind after she arbitrarily decides that the Warden's relationship is "true love".

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Medhia Nox

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Well - then I disagree with her too.

Never got that line.

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I'm all for there being some kind of scene for a character who stays single. Or an achievement. But, unless a romance adds attribute points/ability bonuses, then staying single should not do that, because then you are quite literally being rewarded for not engaging in the optional content. I am a huge sap and like to play the Bioware romances. You could argue that the various scenes and dialogues are a reward, and in a way they are. But it's a reward that doesn't give anyone an advantage in the game, just maybe a bit more immersion and marginally longer play time.

Long story short, okay, fine, give loners a nice friendship scene. That makes perfect sense, unless your character is a jerk who doesn't make friends with anyone. But don't give them advantages in the game via stats/skill boosts that those who do romance someone won't get. After all, if you play a romance, all you get is an achievement (no longer even specific to the character you romanced) and a few cut scenes.

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I almost always go the no romance route for these games.  I vaguely remember in ME1 I told Ashley something along the lines of "Not now, but maybe when the war is over".  The same thing with Tali in ME2.  I like when the refusal options are practical like that and the other character doesn't throw a tantrum when you turn them down, lol.

Anyway, regarding the "something extra" for no-romance characters, I don't really expect anything, but I think there are some possibilities to do something cool.

Maybe for Dragon Age, an example would be it's the night before a final battle.  Your companions will spend it hanging out with each other in the tavern or whatever and if you are part of a romance, you can spend it with your love interest. 

But let's say you refused every possible romance, perhaps you could get a special scene like this:

The game will show the tavern filled with soldiers and some of your companions hanging out, enjoying what could be there last night alive.  Some nice tavern music could be playing in the background.  But then the scene would cut to your character sitting in a room, no music, just the sound of him sharpening his sword as the camera slowly inches closer and closer to him.

The scene would cut back to the other soldiers having fun, companions making jokes, etc.  The music still playing in the background.  Then it cuts back again to you, still sharpening your sword, the room silent, no music.  Maybe the game will flash glimpses of other characters' faces that have died during your quest, hinting at the anger that is brewing within your character.  But still the camera gets closer to your character's face.

The scene can swap again, maybe showing a couple of your companions that have their own romance laughing as they enter one of the private rooms for themselves.  Then it cuts back to you and the camera finally stops in front of your face as the sound of you sharpening your sword finally stops.  You finally raise your face to the camera, a look of pure hate and determination in your eyes.  And the scene ends.

Basically, the above scene would be something for a lone, brooding warrior...which is basically every character that I try to make, lol.  So while other character's would get their love scene, drawing strength from their companions, my character would get a scene like the above...a singular, unhealthy obsession with finishing the mission.

So yeah...just an example, and probably a crappy one, lol.

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How about your character's "best friend" (the most relatonship points) comes to chat and hang out with you if you don't have a love interest.

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Some of you, like Lennard rightfully says are so hung up on this "y u need reward for avoiding optional content".

What else is an RPG if it does not provide different outcomes/various scenes for your choices? Ragg got the right idea in his mind with that example. Hell, it's just like the Persona 4 bros Christmas party. Yeah HJF4, that is an excellent suggestion. =)

And just like Medhia mentions, a stoic hero having reminiscing moments about the task ahead does not seem out of line at all. Just makes more sense in the grand scheme of things.

Okay how about a real life example: I'm single but on Valentines Day I hung out with my friends and we talked about the most random stuff in the mall while eating so much stuff! It was really fun but would the naysayers tell me that I don't deserve to have fun on that day just because I'm not committed? Gaise pls...

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Awards for staying single:

Female PC: "Crazy Cat Lady"

Male PC: "On the Basement at my folks"

:P

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While I am not a big fan of the Bioware romances I am not sure I agree that those who choose not to romance anyone should get bonus content, I do believe however that romance scenes should not play as integral part to the plot to the point that it feels like certain scenes are missing if you playthrough without romancing anyone. The romance subplots should be the optional bonus scenes for those who choose to pursue a romance and skippable for those who choose not to.

But in terms of bonus scenes for those who dont romance anyone what did you have in mind OP? A special quest where Hawke goes searching for some vaseline and a good porno? A dinner date for 2 featuring Hawke and his hand?

Modifié par Mr Mxyzptlk, 08 mars 2013 - 06:16 .


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Seriously!? So you want something for saying no to OPTIONAL content! Plus it's pretty obvious that this request isn't going to be heeded (refer to the link to Mr Gaider's reply on the topic)

Modifié par Crazy Eyed One, 08 mars 2013 - 06:30 .


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Face of Evil wrote...

Why do we want to reward people for avoiding optional content? Next you'll suggest you should get a special DLC fr not buying DLC.


This.  It's kind of nonsensical.  Even if romance conversations amount to fairly sizeable sidequests, so do DLC and other sidequests.

Gamer: I didn't do this optional thingy!  I demand extra goodies for not doing this optional thingy!
Game: No.

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Awards for staying single:

Female PC: "Crazy Cat Lady"

Male PC: "On the Basement at my folks"

:P


This and the magical vibrator are ideas I support in ernest. Image IPB

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Commander Kurt wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Awards for staying single:

Female PC: "Crazy Cat Lady"

Male PC: "On the Basement at my folks"

:P


This and the magical vibrator are ideas I support in ernest. Image IPB


Thirded.  Hey, if we get more cat models this game, my PC can collect them all!

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@OP and Lennard; I'm not saying they shouldn't do it. I'm saying why ask for it? I think the idea presented by Ragg82 is a good one (just the first two scenes with the companions having fun and then the PC sharpening his blade, overdoing it would be bad) and I would enjoy it. But I enjoy every well-made scene in the game that fits, it doesn't mean I would ask for it if it wasn't there.

Do you see what I'm saying? I like good scenes and I enjoy getting them, much like I like good quests and enjoy getting those. If I choose not to do a quest because my char just wouldn't, then I certainly wouldn't mind getting a different one instead. But I wouldn't ask for that. I wouldn't expect it, or feel that it should be there. More content, if it's good, is always better. But I'm not sitting here asking for more content, because that would be a bit silly.

Also, implying that people of the opposite sex are only good for romance (i.e. romancing the girls, hanging with the guys) is something that I really, really deplore. If they do that, I will have to get into someones pants whether I like them or not and the game would be poorer for it, not better. Just a side note.