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[Viper371]

I'll try a few more Gold games, preferably ones where I get to keep my credits -grrr (restarting the game doesn't work for me).

But I want to complete the objectives this week-end.  So I got the basics covered: a character that can be hit and can hit it too, stay grouped with your teammates,
 I have lots of experience in bronze and silver, only played a few games in Gold, but I intend to find the time to play more before sunday night.

So, I'll be playing either:
- Infiltrator (Turian ghost, most likely, maybe N7 Shadow but I ain't that familar with her)
- I intend to play a few bronze&silver games to familiarize myself with the AIU I just got
- Juggernaut
- Geth soldier

These are the characters I'm most confortable with, characters I have played Gold up to extraction, so far, without emptying my medigel reserve.  They may not be the absolute best, but I suck playing an adept, and I struggle playing an engineer.  I am not confident enough in my abilities to play a vanguard in gold or platinum, as i found silver challenging with the asari vanguard.


Here is my inventory so far:
http://social.biowar...r37&platform=pc

Anyway, back to questions:
Map:
- wich map do you recommend?  I usually like Firebase Giant, Reactor Hazard and Firebase Dagger.   The other maps, so-so for me.  Are these good for platinum?

Weapon choice
- Infiltrator: sniper or smg?  I'm partial to the sniper, but my best gun is the N7 Valiant III.  I still don't have the black widow, eluding me since the very beginning  If playing SMG, I intend to take the Geth SMG, and maybe supplement it with the Arc Pistol modded for amour.
- Juggernaut and Geth Soldier: Adas anti-synthetic rifle?  It's only level 1, though.  I figure the Mattock doesn't deliver enough of a punch for plat.  Maybe the Striker?
- I've noticed Juggernaut with Sniper rifle. Do you recommend that?

Objectives
- Drone escort: 4 teammates with the escort, or one sniper taking target of opportunities while the other take what's coming their way?  I fear we will be swarmed by the ennemy if we stick at 4 inside the drone range.
- Hacking: same as drone, really.  4 inside, or one clearing ennemies on one side a little further of?  I know it takes longer to achieve the objective, but I find it easier to play that way, worst case scenario, I fall back to the zone and we hit the big ones at 3-4.
- the 4 Nodes: usually, one takes the objective, another player clears the path, 2 others are on the other side drawing ennemy fire.  Do you recommend 4 players per objective given the higher difficulty?

Conclusion
All that being said, looking at my inventory, knowing I don't have much experience in Gold, knowing I usually finish 1st in points in silver games with my favorite classes, knowing I can solo bronze but never tried silver... do you think I will be a drag for the other players?  Should I just let this one go?

Thank you for the honest answers.


EDIT:
forgot.  Generally speaking, in platinum, do you camp a zone as a group, or do you run around like in bronze, silver and gold?

Modifié par Viper371, 07 mars 2013 - 07:15 .

[TheVanishedOne]

Edit: Use Turian Ghost. He is easy to play with.

Character Setup
I would go with Tactical Cloak + Stimulant Pack using Reegar Carbine with Shotgun Shredder Mod or Shotgun High-Velocity Barrel. with Shotgun Spare Thermal Clip. You can see my setup here.

For consumables use Incendiary Rounds, Shotgun Rail Amp, Adrenaline Module, and Grenade Capacity.
All you need to do is don't let your shield gone.

Priority [Any other left is secondary.] Priority decreases left to  right

1st Priority >>> 2nd Priority >>> 3rd Priority

Marauders, Cannibals, Husks
Cerberus Troopers, Centurions, Phantoms, Nemesis, Guardian
Geth Hunter, Geth Pyro, Geth Rocket Troopers
Collector Troopers, Collector Captains, Aborminations

For maps, choose Firebase Ghost, Goddess, White. Those maps have more grenades than any other.

Good Hunting,
You need more ammo than luck,
warriorsea

Modifié par warriorsea, 07 mars 2013 - 07:38 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

You have Harrier II

You have Turian Ghost Infiltrator

Problem solved.


Make your infiltrator lvl 20
Set up TGI for full weapon damage (duration for Tactical cloak only at your own will). 0 fitness

Cloak -> Harrier shoot
Survival OP pack if you lose your shield.

Stick to the team and keep firing. It won`t be hard.

[TheVanishedOne]

Harrier wont solve phantom problem easily

[Tallgeese_VII]

warriorsea wrote...

Harrier wont solve phantom problem easily

It deals such high damage.. actually it does with headshot especially once they put on the barrier for any reason..

[Vrin]

Drone escort: 4 teammates with the escort, or one sniper taking target of opportunities while the other take what's coming their way? I fear we will be swarmed by the ennemy if we stick at 4 inside the drone range.
- Hacking: same as drone, really. 4 inside, or one clearing ennemies on one side a little further of? I know it takes longer to achieve the objective, but I find it easier to play that way, worst case scenario, I fall back to the zone and we hit the big ones at 3-4.

Everybody in the circle with at least one or two (prefereably caster classes) having missiles out and ready. Period. Being outside the circle and killing things before the objective is completed is pointless and just extends the time it takes to get the objective done.

- the 4 Nodes: usually, one takes the objective, another player clears the path, 2 others are on the other side drawing ennemy fire. Do you recommend 4 players per objective given the higher difficulty?

3 and 1. 3 draw the enemies away from the objective. 1 (preferably infiltrator) does the devices.

Be prepared to use your missiles. It's Platinum. You'll make more than enough money back to buy more if you succeed

[chcknwng]

It's all about dsihing out damage as fast as possible, preferable before you die. Either use a really powerful gun (Claymore), or creating FE/CE all the time (TB is too weak, BE is not as powerful as FE/CE).

1. Geth Trooper with 0 in HM. Fortifaction for full damage reduction. Flamer for armor. Bring Acolyte. EZ mode (check out Invderone's thread). Play with friends and bring TGI/TSent for Overload.

2. GI With Javelin. Extra ammo and HVB. If you are going to snipe use this. (requires more skill than others). Talon/Piranha works as well but actually playing GI on plat requires some skill because how squishy it is.

3. EDI with Claymore .Obviously.

4. TGI with Typhoon. I would take Typhoon over Harrier since your Harrier is only 2.

5. No SMG besides Hurricane, a high level CSMG or BPP. Others might be shooting peas at enemy. GPSMG is not bad per se, but nobody can stand out of cover that long for it to wind up and deliver full damage. Also no infiltrator has the extra SMG damage.

6. If you have plat friends then bring Juggs. Himself couldn't do a lot of damage and will eventually go down if you are the main damage disher. Shadow is a terrible idea because most of the units she won't be able to OHK or the sync kill units.


Go for burst fire mooks and Ravagers first as other have said. Bring Acolyte/Scorpion to deal with Phantoms. Always have AP mods or rounds, or some kind of armor weakening/debuffing power.

The main thing is, you need to get used to the damage level the enemies are dealing with. There is only so much Stim Packs/Repair Matrix can do. If you can't customarily play gold then it would be very difficult for you to plat, no matter which op kit you use.


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I would suggest a GT, someone with Overload, then bring a Paladin/EDI, and stay together. The constant burst of FE/CE would kill everything including Phantoms (biggest threat, since the DR) really fast.

Giant is usually the easy map but I suggest a tigher map (White) for Geth because you don't want to get rockets to the face. Dagger is sniper heaven. Stay away from Glacier because you can get overrun very quickly and there is literally no place to run, especially during extraction.

Modifié par wngmv, 07 mars 2013 - 08:10 .

[chcknwng]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

warriorsea wrote...

Harrier wont solve phantom problem easily

It deals such high damage.. actually it does with headshot especially once they put on the barrier for any reason..

Not when Phantoms are in denials and you are the host. 3 very quick shots from Phantom are you are guaranteed dead.

You need Acolyte/Scorpion for that.

[Viper371]

Thanks for the suggestions.

I just played a silver run with the Ghost infiltrator and the Harrier. Now I know why I didn't like the Harrier: not enough ammo. Hopefully, I'll get credits playing Gold game and get a few more upgrades.

I always played this character as a sniper with overload. Now, I'm going for 6-6-0-6-6. Interesting build.

My PUGs had this weird strategy of camping the evac zone, though, it made things a bit difficult for me as I'm used to lure them away from the zone

Anyway, I think I found my build there. Will test in gold soon enough, see ya there maybe?

[AustereLemur799]

I recommend using your turian ghost. One of the crucial elements of platinum is staying alive (if you get downed, don't expect people to come for you). Stimulant packs are brilliant - hit the button as soon as you lose your shield. Also the jet things are perfect for evading incoming fire (especially grenades or stupid possessed abominations).

Speaking of possessed abominations, try not to kill one near your team-mates, or everyone dies. It's actually better to let it grab you and then kill it with the subsequent melee animation that comes up - this disposes of the possessed abomination in such a way that it doesn't explde and wreak havoc.

People have already said this, but it's good to bring a heavy-hitting weapon. I haven't checked your manifest but personally I love the Saber or the Harrier on the turian ghost. With weapons mods, go for as much damage as possible.

As for maps. I know people like the Hazard version of FB Reactor for Platinum so that you can group and trap enemies in the centre - it's good for encouraging good teamwork. I think someone else mentioned FB Giant - also a fantastic map for Platinum. FB Goddess is quite nice too.

Just don't go on FB Rio if you play against Collectors. I know everyone thinks that camping in the box makes them invincible, but they don't seem to realise that it's suicide against the Collectors - you'll get swarmed by all sorts of nasty things like scions spewing grenades and possessed abominations coming at you, and all your team is bunched-up in one place and will die (in short, it's not pretty).

As for fitness; I don't think 6 is necessary but I also think that 0 is too low (I suppose this depends on the confidence of the player). I tend to go with 4. Spec for max weapon damage if you can.

Just remember; it's mainly about survival. I think bronze and silver can teach you bad habits, like you can stand in the open and shoot all day and not even get a scratch.

I know lots of people are afraid of platinum (myself included), but it's actually not so bad once you get into the swing of things. Focus less on the faction that was picked for the match and focus more about the enemies you face in-game, because of course they are mixed. I don't know, but I think there's a psychological factor to it if you get too mixed up thinking 'I should be playing against Cerberus; where the hell did all the banshees come from?'

If at first you don't succeed; don't get disheartened - just try again.

Most importantly, have fun!

EDIT: And now I look like an idiot because I see that you're already out there taking the plunge . Oh well, good luck!

Modifié par AustereLemur799, 08 mars 2013 - 03:11 .

[RaptorSolutions]

warriorsea wrote...

Harrier wont solve phantom problem easily

Harrier with incendiary ammo. Bring down shields with first overload, pour inferno rounds, second overload causes FE. Problem solved.

[Acyl]

One caveat - ammo (and grenade) refill issues are a lot more pronounced in Plat, even more so than Gold. You'll be sending a lot of shots downrange at all those bosses, ammo boxes aren't going to fill you up as much, and you're competing to a degree with other players. This isn't necessarily a dealbreaker for guns like the Harrier, but something to keep in mind.

[Dalakaar]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

warriorsea wrote...

Harrier wont solve phantom problem easily

It deals such high damage.. actually it does with headshot especially once they put on the barrier for any reason..

I love juking them into that so I can line up some good turkeyshoot. Stoopid Phantoms. -.-

[RaptorSolutions]

Do you have the Lancer OP? TGI/Lancer > TGI/Harrier for ease of use.

[Viper371]

RaptorSolutions wrote...

Do you have the Lancer OP? TGI/Lancer > TGI/Harrier for ease of use.

Just got the Lancer level 1.

[Viper371]

Playing gold for now. The lancer does not have enough ammo at level 1 and takes too long to recharge. The Harrier is ok, worst case scenario, I hit the ammo button, I have like 250 of these, same for rockets.

Collectors + Firebase Rio = bad, thank you AustereLemur799, I learnt it the hard way. Not gonna try this on Platinum, that's a given. This map is good against Cerberus and Geth, but not the other factions, imho.

Depending on the map, I find Gold to be a tad more difficult than Silver, in the sense that there are more ennemies to shoot at and you need to be careful, much, much, much more than bronze or silver, but I get down way less often than in silver. Except facing Collectors. I still hate them. I'm unsure how I'll survive platinum with these, but I'll keep them for last, maximize my chances to get a welcome upgrade for the Harrier.

Anyway, Thanks to all for the suggestions, for now, I'm sticking with the Ghost and the Harrier on Gold, will try Platinum on sunday, if I'm back

[Viper371]

AustereLemur799 wrote...
Focus less on the faction that was picked for the match and focus more about the enemies you face in-game, because of course they are mixed. I don't know, but I think there's a psychological factor to it if you get too mixed up thinking 'I should be playing against Cerberus; where the hell did all the banshees come from?'

I totally missed that part.  4 Geth primes on the 1st wave, I'm like "ok, this is gonna be tough, but I can do it, I have my disruptor rounds".  Then the phantoms, then the banshees.. OMG!  

Anyway, I got downed a few times, never died, didn't used all my medigel and ops pack.  And I extracted, we all extracted.  That was fun   But I don't want to do it more than these 4 games, I think

[Viper371]

I did it! Challenge completed!

I carried a team for one match, got carried for all others

All in all, I think I played 8 platinum games, including one I had to quit because of horrible lag.

My nick is redviper37 so if you played with me, thank you very much