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[golak]

Obadiah wrote...

No point in turning this into a complaint thread. I just think its interesting getting the dev's perspective. Wish there was more of it on these forums.

Me to ...me to....

If the devs. did come on and speak out on issues whit the game when people asked "why was and that made in the game" it would be great and I would respect them for it. 

[JedTed]

Thanks for posting this! I always enjoy listing to Dr. Ray's insights into the industry.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

This video is depressing. I miss Bioware.

EA.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 10 mars 2013 - 10:18 .

[JamieCOTC]

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

It does seem odd that he says the entire team agreed with the endings. There are a lot of people who were involved with the development, but not one single person brought up that the endings would cause issues with the fans? Or for that matter failed to point out the irony in the story: Synthetics wiping out organics to keep them from creating synthetics that could wipe out their organic creators...o.0

Actually, the did.

BioWare: Mass Effect 3 ending will "make some people angry"

http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

[Hexley UK]

JamieCOTC wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

It does seem odd that he says the entire team agreed with the endings. There are a lot of people who were involved with the development, but not one single person brought up that the endings would cause issues with the fans? Or for that matter failed to point out the irony in the story: Synthetics wiping out organics to keep them from creating synthetics that could wipe out their organic creators...o.0

Actually, the did.

BioWare: Mass Effect 3 ending will "make some people angry"

http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

Yes but that article also has such BS as -

"I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the
way we've done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you've made will
impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens."
Orly?

And,

"Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending.
BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than
answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised." Orly?

And,

"You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things.
Regardless of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to
provide some answers to these people."
Orly?

Honestly with quotes like that they wonder why people got angry.....

Modifié par Hexley UK, 10 mars 2013 - 11:39 .

[FlamingBoy]

JamieCOTC wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

It does seem odd that he says the entire team agreed with the endings. There are a lot of people who were involved with the development, but not one single person brought up that the endings would cause issues with the fans? Or for that matter failed to point out the irony in the story: Synthetics wiping out organics to keep them from creating synthetics that could wipe out their organic creators...o.0

Actually, the did.

BioWare: Mass Effect 3 ending will "make some people angry"

http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry

that article was everywhere at one stage

also the comment on the website you provided are very funny with hindsight;)

[Zezer1]

Thanks for posting. ^^

[KevinT18]

Thanks for posting this vid, i can never find these types of things quickly on YT

[Wip3out]

you cant prove that its not in the minority. The difference between the ending lovers and haters are: the lovers dont come and qq on forums all day about it. Why? Cause they moved on from the game or are busy playing it. While many hate the ending, theres also many who love it. The haters should stop acting like no one loves the ending cause many do, you're not the only people who play the game. The ec made most content with the ending as well. You have no facts on saying most hate the ending. And i have no facts on saying most love the ending. The ending wont change for the haters when there are ending lovers, if they do the ending lovers might turn into the ending haters, so again no one will win. Its time to get over it.

[Emphyr]

O How i wish i was there

I always have a connection with Pink Floyd music and the Mass Effect games.

[Hexley UK]

Wip3out wrote...

you cant prove that its not in the minority. The difference between the ending lovers and haters are: the lovers dont come and qq on forums all day about it. Why? Cause they moved on from the game or are busy playing it. While many hate the ending, theres also many who love it. The haters should stop acting like no one loves the ending cause many do, you're not the only people who play the game. The ec made most content with the ending as well. You have no facts on saying most hate the ending. And i have no facts on saying most love the ending. The ending wont change for the haters when there are ending lovers, if they do the ending lovers might turn into the ending haters, so again no one will win. Its time to get over it.

Can't prove it 100% no, but all indications from every poll, survey, chatroom, forum I have ever seen shows strong evidence that the majority hate the endings.

Show me 1 poll with decent numbers which says the opposite...just 1...go on, i'll wait.

[Emphyr]

I wonder if he is aware HOW IMPORTANT Mass Effect ( Commander Shepard) in the Galaxy was to so many people.

I dont think he is aware of that.

[Wip3out]

@hexley: like i said, the ending lovers couldnt care less about the ending haters, they dont come on the forums cause all we see is the haters **** and moan. Im only on the forums to pass time at work.

[zsom]

Hexley UK wrote...

Wip3out wrote...

you cant prove that its not in the minority. The difference between the ending lovers and haters are: the lovers dont come and qq on forums all day about it. Why? Cause they moved on from the game or are busy playing it. While many hate the ending, theres also many who love it. The haters should stop acting like no one loves the ending cause many do, you're not the only people who play the game. The ec made most content with the ending as well. You have no facts on saying most hate the ending. And i have no facts on saying most love the ending. The ending wont change for the haters when there are ending lovers, if they do the ending lovers might turn into the ending haters, so again no one will win. Its time to get over it.

Can't prove it 100% no, but all indications from every poll, survey, chatroom, forum I have ever seen shows strong evidence that the majority hate the endings.

Show me 1 poll with decent numbers which says the opposite...just 1...go on, i'll wait.

Here you go:
http://www.metacriti...0/mass-effect-3
http://www.metacriti...3/mass-effect-3

And since ME3 sold more copies on consoles than on PC it isn't impossible for these numbers to balance the more negative PC reviews:

http://www.metacriti...c/mass-effect-3

[Hexley UK]

zsom wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Wip3out wrote...

you cant prove that its not in the minority. The difference between the ending lovers and haters are: the lovers dont come and qq on forums all day about it. Why? Cause they moved on from the game or are busy playing it. While many hate the ending, theres also many who love it. The haters should stop acting like no one loves the ending cause many do, you're not the only people who play the game. The ec made most content with the ending as well. You have no facts on saying most hate the ending. And i have no facts on saying most love the ending. The ending wont change for the haters when there are ending lovers, if they do the ending lovers might turn into the ending haters, so again no one will win. Its time to get over it.

Can't prove it 100% no, but all indications from every poll, survey, chatroom, forum I have ever seen shows strong evidence that the majority hate the endings.

Show me 1 poll with decent numbers which says the opposite...just 1...go on, i'll wait.

Here you go:
http://www.metacriti...0/mass-effect-3
http://www.metacriti...3/mass-effect-3

And since ME3 sold more copies on consoles than on PC it isn't impossible for these numbers to balance the more negative PC reviews:

http://www.metacriti...c/mass-effect-3

Xbox = 5.4/10

PS3 = 4.7/10

PC = 4.6/10

These are really crappy scores...what point are you trying to make exactly?

[Hexley UK]

Wip3out wrote...

@hexley: like i said, the ending lovers couldnt care less about the ending haters, they dont come on the forums cause all we see is the haters **** and moan. Im only on the forums to pass time at work.

Ahh the old "People who love it are the most silent people on the planet" excuse.....utter rubbish m8, if anything it's statistically likely that for every 1 person who hates it 26 agree but don't say anything.

"TARP researchers have found that for every one person who complains, there are 26 who do not."

deliverbliss.com/customer-complaints-gift

[Emphyr]

I like it that he mentions Wasteland !

personally ill never forget the ADD and D games ( SSI/TSR)
Pool of Radiance, Champions of Krynn
and more and lets not forget Starflight 1 and 2 and Starcontrol 2 (The adventure)

Seeing this video its good to see This dr is a gamer!

Take Care

[Emphyr]

@Hexley

I also didnt like the ME endings at all..
I Still dont like it.

There have been so many treads on the Bw Forums starting in march 2012.
BW wont change it...
I also feel anger and disapointment ( Stil do).....

But you can complain and complain.. but you have to realize it wont change (

Bioware  decided this is it.
The Anger you feel ... Not only about the endings , but also about Bioware 's PR management let it go.

All is said. they will not listen.

Yes we are a minority that still complain but thats because maybe we are indeed the minority that cannot forget and forgive..

Remember That the majority off the ppl that disagreed with the endings has go on.. I do Think they all still are mad!

But they moved away.

Dont forget to know that the majority of the buyers on ME3 are still upset..
You are not alone..

There is only one way to say i disagree
And That is : I will never ever buy an EA Game again!

Google on Simcity and Dead Space 3.

EA cannot go on like this! EA is loosing slowly...
They already know But they dont know what to do.... So they are running on on the old safe market wich they believe they can earn money. They dont yet realize they are in big big big troubles.

Take Care
Emphy(rio)

Take Care.

Modifié par Emphyr, 11 mars 2013 - 08:29 .

[tevix]

I don't respect leaders who don't have the guts to come out and say "Yeah, things didn't go as well as they could have. We had disagreements, and in some cases it got ugly. Looking back...maybe what we did wasn't the right choice, and I'm sorry for that failure."

People who support something or people in the open are doing just that...supporting them. If something is stupid and everyone knows it but the leaders/creators sit there and say "Yup, everythings just peachy. NOOOOO problems whatsoever." is ridiculous. It's weak, dishonest, and breeds a lack of loyalty and trust.

If you can't trust your leaders to call out BS as they see it...you can't trust them. I'm looking at you MEcavscout. Your synonym of the military is a great example of how this is a failure. Soldiers follow orders because they have to, but do they really agree with it or even truly trust you? Who knows....

No one is allowed to speak up. To pretend otherwise is pretentious and dishonest, and I don't respect that.

[Emphyr]

Hihihi Simcity!
(Electronic Arts)

Google on it

EA once was great on giving us SF games.
Google on Starflight.

Take Care

[Emphyr]

tevix wrote...

I don't respect leaders who don't have the guts to come out and say "Yeah, things didn't go as well as they could have. We had disagreements, and in some cases it got ugly. Looking back...maybe what we did wasn't the right choice, and I'm sorry for that failure."

People who support something or people in the open are doing just that...supporting them. If something is stupid and everyone knows it but the leaders/creators sit there and say "Yup, everythings just peachy. NOOOOO problems whatsoever." is ridiculous. It's weak, dishonest, and breeds a lack of loyalty and trust.

If you can't trust your leaders to call out BS as they see it...you can't trust them. I'm looking at you MEcavscout. Your synonym of the military is a great example of how this is a failure. Soldiers follow orders because they have to, but do they really agree with it or even truly trust you? Who knows....

No one is allowed to speak up. To pretend otherwise is pretentious and dishonest, and I don't respect that.

Hi
I do agree.

But dont forget this is not 1 country forum....
This is a worldwide forum!

and its nice to see  all the

/Spam   End off line

This is Bioware's forum  they can do anyting they want.

Spam on BW is anything he does not like ore want. to read .. I wonder if  Stan can laugh  ( I dont think so)

/Spam
End of line                               (will happen )

[Emphyr]

OK more
I bought ME 3 CE  a collectors item.
The CE was a replica as Normandy SR2.

I payed 85 euro.)
After the endings ( Before the EC) i did not want the replica anymore...

I saw a ME lover in the topics so i have sended my Normandy to him.

Lately i saw a tweet from him to Tully (Bioware) that he still has my Normandy rep on his desk.

That feels OK ! for me and for him!.

This was the mail i have sended him->

Hello .(name deleted)

I delivered the package at the post office yesterday.

I did it registerd ?? so you have to sighn when it arrives. That way
seemed me the best to assure that it will not get lost.

I dont know your age ore your financial situation The cost was 14.30
Euro. ( i expected it to be less) because it does not weight much. Sending
a package to teh USA is far cheaper.

If you have plenty of cash you can pay the delivery costings , if you have
normal cash we can split it and if you dont have cash its OK the way it
is.

I am curious how long it will take to deliver it at your house

Take Care

----------------------------

When he recieved it he was so happy!
Because he was happy i was happy also !

Take Care

Modifié par Emphyr, 11 mars 2013 - 09:18 .

[Tacoking85]

Wat

[Maias227]

Calm down Emphyr. Btw does anybody know how to put this into a itunes style podcast? I'd like to listen/watch it during a trainride on a ios device.

[dsl08002]

Hexley UK wrote...

Wip3out wrote...

@hexley: like i said, the ending lovers couldnt care less about the ending haters, they dont come on the forums cause all we see is the haters **** and moan. Im only on the forums to pass time at work.

Ahh the old "People who love it are the most silent people on the planet" excuse.....utter rubbish m8, if anything it's statistically likely that for every 1 person who hates it 26 agree but don't say anything.

"TARP researchers have found that for every one person who complains, there are 26 who do not."

deliverbliss.com/customer-complaints-gift

i dont think thats true anymore, because even if some are vocal about it there is no real fact that the rst that is quiet and do not hate is really ok with it. they are just not simply intergrated with the story enough unlike others. im not saying that to upset or anything but  usually that when people see something like that is easy and short lived they dont really look up to it. and are willing to accpet anything that comes. 

If a player that has played the franchise without any real focus on going to details, are less likely to attach to a game unlike a one who is really looking for the details.