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[Emphyr]

back to the roots.. for me it is still the ADD&D games starting : Pool Of radiance.
later came games on same engine : Games like Champions of Krym ( yes i played it on a C64)

Aulddragon has lets plays on thoose games.
(i watched them all)
Aulddragon also has a lets play on Baldurs gate ( I never played  that game

But it was Nice to see.

The most important game to me that i will never forget is stil............................

Star Control 2  (The Ur Quan Masters)

anyway...
Take Care!

Modifié par Emphyr, 11 mars 2013 - 11:12 .

[Z-Dragon]

Emphyr wrote...

OK more
I bought ME 3 CE  a collectors item.
The CE was a replica as Normandy SR2.

I payed 85 euro.)
After the endings ( Before the EC) i did not want the replica anymore...

I saw a ME lover in the topics so i have sended my Normandy to him.

Lately i saw a tweet from him to Tully (Bioware) that he still has my Normandy rep on his desk.

That feels OK ! for me and for him!.

This was the mail i have sended him->

Hello .(name deleted)

I delivered the package at the post office yesterday.

I did it registerd ?? so you have to sighn when it arrives. That way
seemed me the best to assure that it will not get lost.

I dont know your age ore your financial situation The cost was 14.30
Euro. ( i expected it to be less) because it does not weight much. Sending
a package to teh USA is far cheaper.

If you have plenty of cash you can pay the delivery costings , if you have
normal cash we can split it and if you dont have cash its OK the way it
is.

I am curious how long it will take to deliver it at your house

Take Care

----------------------------

When he recieved it he was so happy!
Because he was happy i was happy also !

Take Care

Unnecessary spacing, just an FYI

[Obadiah]

Heavensrun wrote...

Kelwing wrote...

Sorry but BS. Doesn't matter where you go online. Mention ME3 and the pure hate revolving around the endings shows up real quick.

In fairness, that doesn't mean anything he said is untrue, all that means it that unhappy people go on the internet to ****.

It seems foreign to those of us that give a crap what happens in these games, but honestly, the vast majority of people that play these games probably never beat them, and if they do, they usually don't really -care- what happens.  They beat it, that's a trophy to hang on their mental wall, and they just move on.  Or they focused everything on the multiplayer in the first place.  Of the people that -do- care, you probably have mostly people who were unhappy, and some people who are content, and some people who enjoyed it.  Now, the unhappy people could be 49% of the gamers that played it, even despite all that, and still be a minority.  "Minority" does not mean "insignificant group" as some seem to think it does.  It just means "less than the group of everybody else."  A minority can still be a considerable number of people, and it can still be a group worth trying to appease.

Looking at the prevalant (vocal) opinion on the internet isn't reliable for gaguing how many people are upset anyway.  As I said, it's not likely to be an unbiased sample, especially given that the content and don't-cares aren't likely to say anything at all.  Fact is, the man probably has more controlled surveys than any of us do.  Also, he's left the company.  He doesn't benefit any longer from sticking to a PR line at this point, anyway.

That is exactly why I thought Bioware was probably telling the truth when referring to a minority.

I think they have made a mistake in not addressing that minority though, and I don't mean by changing the ending, I just mean addressing them with clear answers to say this is what we meant by this plot point here and this is why. They've basically turtled up on ME3, and only communicate now with very specific PR messaging. Even to someone like me who liked the ending, I find it very discouraging.

It is almost as toxic as the negativity in the community.

Modifié par Obadiah, 11 mars 2013 - 01:19 .

[rapscallioness]

Interesting vid. Thnx for posting.

As far as Dr. Ray and the whole "minority" thing..honestly, I have no idea. It seems more than a minority, however.

But really, I don't see Dr. Ray, or most of the devs actually trudging thru the webz to collate info and stats. They would have "ppl" that do that for them and report back to them.

Ppl that datamine and crunch numbers, etc.

So, who knows? Maybe it was a minority. A significant minority. Or, maybe they didn't really get the whole pic from their...info gathering ppl.

Lol, or maybe the Team just buckled under pressure of ME3 being "The End", and anticipation and epicness. So much pressure.

Ah, well. I still miss the Dr.'s. And I hope for no more abrupt endings in BW games.

Cheers!

Modifié par rapscallioness, 11 mars 2013 - 04:21 .

[LinksOcarina]

It was a very even handed, and honest presentation if you ask me.

I think he handled the questions well too, all things considered.

[Reidson]

ZombifiedJake wrote...

Skipped to the part of the talk about the ending. Pretty much everything he said was BS, but what else could he have said?

Said critical response was in the minority (yeah, right), and that this minority was what prompted the extended cut. If it really was such a minority, I don't think any action would have been taken at all. The bashing was widespread - or at least it seemed so, but I'm willing to believe that it was overplayed - and deservedly so.

The interesting thing he mentioned (again, might be more BS) was that the entire ME3 team all really enjoyed the ending. So clearly those involved in the creative process saw things differently, which I get. But it just doesn't make sense to me that every single person sat back and said "yes, this is good". A little internal disagreement goes a long way.

I know a few people who work fro Bioware in Montreal...this is 100% false

[Twinzam.V]

Emphyr wrote...

OK more
I bought ME 3 CE  a collectors item.
The CE was a replica as Normandy SR2.

I payed 85 euro.)
After the endings ( Before the EC) i did not want the replica anymore...

I saw a ME lover in the topics so i have sended my Normandy to him.

Lately i saw a tweet from him to Tully (Bioware) that he still has my Normandy rep on his desk.

That feels OK ! for me and for him!.

This was the mail i have sended him->

Hello .(name deleted)

I delivered the package at the post office yesterday.

I did it registerd ?? so you have to sighn when it arrives. That way
seemed me the best to assure that it will not get lost.

I dont know your age ore your financial situation The cost was 14.30
Euro. ( i expected it to be less) because it does not weight much. Sending
a package to teh USA is far cheaper.

If you have plenty of cash you can pay the delivery costings , if you have
normal cash we can split it and if you dont have cash its OK the way it
is.

I am curious how long it will take to deliver it at your house

Take Care

----------------------------

When he recieved it he was so happy!
Because he was happy i was happy also !

Take Care

Well if someone wants to acquire my Dark Horse Normandy replicas (Cerberus and Alliance) im open for a deal.

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 11 mars 2013 - 04:48 .

[mcgreggers99]

Reidson wrote...

ZombifiedJake wrote...

Skipped to the part of the talk about the ending. Pretty much everything he said was BS, but what else could he have said?

Said critical response was in the minority (yeah, right), and that this minority was what prompted the extended cut. If it really was such a minority, I don't think any action would have been taken at all. The bashing was widespread - or at least it seemed so, but I'm willing to believe that it was overplayed - and deservedly so.

The interesting thing he mentioned (again, might be more BS) was that the entire ME3 team all really enjoyed the ending. So clearly those involved in the creative process saw things differently, which I get. But it just doesn't make sense to me that every single person sat back and said "yes, this is good". A little internal disagreement goes a long way.

I know a few people who work fro Bioware in Montreal...this is 100% false

While I absolutely believe you....it would be nice to hear some of the actual writers/devs say it. I suppose the truth will come out some day and we'll hear various claims about "what really happened" as the years go by, but part of me can't help but think that this is going to be disected by gamers and fans for years to come.

[zsom]

Hexley UK wrote...

zsom wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Wip3out wrote...

you cant prove that its not in the minority. The difference between the ending lovers and haters are: the lovers dont come and qq on forums all day about it. Why? Cause they moved on from the game or are busy playing it. While many hate the ending, theres also many who love it. The haters should stop acting like no one loves the ending cause many do, you're not the only people who play the game. The ec made most content with the ending as well. You have no facts on saying most hate the ending. And i have no facts on saying most love the ending. The ending wont change for the haters when there are ending lovers, if they do the ending lovers might turn into the ending haters, so again no one will win. Its time to get over it.

Can't prove it 100% no, but all indications from every poll, survey, chatroom, forum I have ever seen shows strong evidence that the majority hate the endings.

Show me 1 poll with decent numbers which says the opposite...just 1...go on, i'll wait.

Here you go:
http://www.metacriti...0/mass-effect-3
http://www.metacriti...3/mass-effect-3

And since ME3 sold more copies on consoles than on PC it isn't impossible for these numbers to balance the more negative PC reviews:

http://www.metacriti...c/mass-effect-3

Xbox = 5.4/10

PS3 = 4.7/10

PC = 4.6/10

These are really crappy scores...what point are you trying to make exactly?

You wanted a poll where the majority liked Mass Effect. I gave you two. That is exactly the point I'm trying to make.

[Hexley UK]

zsom wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

zsom wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Wip3out wrote...

you cant prove that its not in the minority. The difference between the ending lovers and haters are: the lovers dont come and qq on forums all day about it. Why? Cause they moved on from the game or are busy playing it. While many hate the ending, theres also many who love it. The haters should stop acting like no one loves the ending cause many do, you're not the only people who play the game. The ec made most content with the ending as well. You have no facts on saying most hate the ending. And i have no facts on saying most love the ending. The ending wont change for the haters when there are ending lovers, if they do the ending lovers might turn into the ending haters, so again no one will win. Its time to get over it.

Can't prove it 100% no, but all indications from every poll, survey, chatroom, forum I have ever seen shows strong evidence that the majority hate the endings.

Show me 1 poll with decent numbers which says the opposite...just 1...go on, i'll wait.

Here you go:
http://www.metacriti...0/mass-effect-3
http://www.metacriti...3/mass-effect-3

And since ME3 sold more copies on consoles than on PC it isn't impossible for these numbers to balance the more negative PC reviews:

http://www.metacriti...c/mass-effect-3

Xbox = 5.4/10

PS3 = 4.7/10

PC = 4.6/10

These are really crappy scores...what point are you trying to make exactly?

You wanted a poll where the majority liked Mass Effect. I gave you two. That is exactly the point I'm trying to make.

5.4, 4.7 and 4.6 out of 10 show universal dislike, those are crappy scores.

To show me the majority liked Mass Effect 3 you showed me tons of reviews hating on it....interesting method.....

Modifié par Hexley UK, 11 mars 2013 - 06:22 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

mcgreggers99 wrote...

Reidson wrote...

ZombifiedJake wrote...

Skipped to the part of the talk about the ending. Pretty much everything he said was BS, but what else could he have said?

Said critical response was in the minority (yeah, right), and that this minority was what prompted the extended cut. If it really was such a minority, I don't think any action would have been taken at all. The bashing was widespread - or at least it seemed so, but I'm willing to believe that it was overplayed - and deservedly so.

The interesting thing he mentioned (again, might be more BS) was that the entire ME3 team all really enjoyed the ending. So clearly those involved in the creative process saw things differently, which I get. But it just doesn't make sense to me that every single person sat back and said "yes, this is good". A little internal disagreement goes a long way.

I know a few people who work fro Bioware in Montreal...this is 100% false

While I absolutely believe you....it would be nice to hear some of the actual writers/devs say it. I suppose the truth will come out some day and we'll hear various claims about "what really happened" as the years go by, but part of me can't help but think that this is going to be disected by gamers and fans for years to come.

As someone who is much more skeptic and doesn't know much about the other posters on these forums, I would like some proof that Reidson knows people who work at bioware montreal enough to have gauged their opinions on the ending.

[Iakus]

Reidson wrote...

ZombifiedJake wrote...

Skipped to the part of the talk about the ending. Pretty much everything he said was BS, but what else could he have said?

Said critical response was in the minority (yeah, right), and that this minority was what prompted the extended cut. If it really was such a minority, I don't think any action would have been taken at all. The bashing was widespread - or at least it seemed so, but I'm willing to believe that it was overplayed - and deservedly so.

The interesting thing he mentioned (again, might be more BS) was that the entire ME3 team all really enjoyed the ending. So clearly those involved in the creative process saw things differently, which I get. But it just doesn't make sense to me that every single person sat back and said "yes, this is good". A little internal disagreement goes a long way.

I know a few people who work fro Bioware in Montreal...this is 100% false

That's good, because if it were true, I'd definitely want nothing to do with Mass Effect ever again.

[dsl08002]

I dont know about if it is a minority im in considering that i hate the ending, considering that they are vocal about it, but i dont think thats true anymore. all people i have met and talked about the endings all agree that the endings are terrible but they are not vocal about it.

however there is one thing that is really importent to mention regarding this. There was a survey that went on the internet about 7 months ago, from a german site. clevernoob is talking about that in the statistic video.

My point is that the survey was distributed random across the globe, not on BSN, completley random. that survey took samples from across the globe, even my country sweden was on the list. that survey proved at random sample that the endings are terrible and that the fans want a new one.

I participated in that survey

Modifié par dsl08002, 11 mars 2013 - 07:20 .

[Nerevar-as]

Obviously BW´s confidential survey nobody noticed that asked about it indirectly is more reliable.

Is it even possible to ask indirectly about something that specific? Anybody knows enough about statistics to answer? I know you can make most surveys to get hte result you want, but considering they are financing another AAA ME game, I´d like to think they´d be more concerned with reliability than patting themselves on the back.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 11 mars 2013 - 07:16 .

[zsom]

Hexley UK wrote...
...
5.4, 4.7 and 4.6 out of 10 show universal dislike, those are crappy scores.

To show me the majority liked Mass Effect 3 you showed me tons of reviews hating on it....interesting method.....

Are you trolling me or are you really that bad at math? If 100 users review the game and 50 give it a 0 but 50 give it a 9 it will result in an average score, of 4.5. Yet it would not mean it was generally disliked, since half of the sample thought it was almost perfect.
Both consoles have more reviewers giving generally favourable scores than unfavourable ones, even a blind man can see that according to those two polls the majority did not dislike the game.

[Hexley UK]

zsom wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...
...
5.4, 4.7 and 4.6 out of 10 show universal dislike, those are crappy scores.

To show me the majority liked Mass Effect 3 you showed me tons of reviews hating on it....interesting method.....

Are you trolling me or are you really that bad at math? If 100 users review the game and 50 give it a 0 but 50 give it a 9 it will result in an average score, of 4.5. Yet it would not mean it was generally disliked, since half of the sample thought it was almost perfect.
Both consoles have more reviewers giving generally favourable scores than unfavourable ones, even a blind man can see that according to those two polls the majority did not dislike the game.

"User Score
4.7 out of 10
Generally unfavorable"

High praise indeed.....0.9 higher than such classics as Aliens: Colonial Marines and we all know how well loved that game is....

Duke Nukem Forever.....5.8....1.1 higher than ME3.

While I understand what your saying that it is an average of all scores i.e some will be 10's and some will be 1's it doesn't change the fact that overall people didn't like it.

The score for ME2 for instance is 8.6.

ME1 - 8.7

ME3 - 4.7

Enough said.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 11 mars 2013 - 08:40 .

[Maias227]

Have you read those reviews on Metacritic, most of the negative ones are made within two weeks of the release and some of them are just downright silly. It's basically review bombing and it's been having happening to more than a few games. I seriously doubt everybody who wrote a review there actually brought the game.

[Hexley UK]

Maias227 wrote...

Have you read those reviews on Metacritic, most of the negative ones are made within two weeks of the release and some of them are just downright silly. It's basically review bombing and it's been having happening to more than a few games. I seriously doubt everybody who wrote a review there actually brought the game.

Maybe, maybe not....but I didn't bring up Metacritic....zsom did in an attempt to prove people like the ending.

And you know what? People don't review bomb games that are really liked.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 11 mars 2013 - 09:52 .

[zsom]

Ok, so you are in fact trolling me. Fair enough... I guess this was the better one of the two options.

[Hexley UK]

zsom wrote...

Ok, so you are in fact trolling me. Fair enough... I guess this was the better one of the two options.

Not at all, I responded intelligently to you 3 posts up....which so far you have not commented on.

I wonder why.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 11 mars 2013 - 09:49 .

[zsom]

For the love of god Hexley, look at the numbers. There are 777 positive reviews vs. 589 negative ones. Is 777 a greater number than 589? Yes it is... So were more people happy with the game than unhappy? According to that one poll, yes.

The average rating is completely meaningless. At best it will show that the minority hates it with a passion and the majority does not see it as pure perfection.

That was the only point I was trying to make. I'm not saying that it was nearly as well received as ME2/1, but the axiom that the majority hates it doesn't seem exactly rock solid either.

[Hexley UK]

zsom wrote...

For the love of god Hexley, look at the numbers. There are 777 positive reviews vs. 589 negative ones. Is 777 a greater number than 589? Yes it is... So were more people happy with the game than unhappy? According to that one poll, yes.

The average rating is completely meaningless. At best it will show that the minority hates it with a passion and the majority does not see it as pure perfection.

That was the only point I was trying to make. I'm not saying that it was nearly as well received as ME2/1, but the axiom that the majority hates it doesn't seem exactly rock solid either.

Nobody looks at an average score of 4.7/10 and says to themselves "That looks good i'll buy it".

Forget it m8, you'd argue red was blue to defend ME3 it seems so i'm done here.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 11 mars 2013 - 11:10 .

[Th3 Bunman]

He's kissing Bioware/EA's ass even when he's not with them anymore.Wonder what's it like living in denial? e

[Zered]

4.7/10?

How the hell can anyone consider this a good score?

[MattFini]

Made the EC to appease a minority?

...Ok