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[Pakundo]

Edit: Before you vote for the 2nd option in the poll, remember what the 3rd option means - if you vote the 3rd option, it means you'd like to have a happier ending than destroy, one without the sacrifice of EDI, the Geth, and any other Synthetics.

 Added poll about why you chose Destroy: http://social.biowar...42/polls/44118/

Provided you're not Javik-minded, and you liked EDI, the Geth and every A.I. that isn't an absolute crapshoot, why can you accept Destroy?
Why not cast it away, along with the lol-Shepard-dies-lol-sacrifice endings that're Control and Synthesis?
(Refuse isn't counted, doesn't matter that Shepard stands by their principle - everybody dies.)

And if you do accept Destroy because it's supposedly the best canon ending, (so let's talk about things the way Bioware thinks as canon), why not prefer Synthesis, if Bioware approves of it so much (seeing as it's the best in-universe ending, minus Shepard's sacrifice)?






Why not MEHEM?
Edit: It doesn't have to be MEHEM specifically, so my REAL question is:
Why not an ending without the Geth and EDI as casualties?
Why not an ending with the Reapers being destroyed and Shepard being rescued from the Normandy before the Crucible fires?

Modifié par Pakundo, 10 mars 2013 - 05:59 .

[CaptainZaysh]

I am Javik minded. I did like EDI, but I'm willing to sacrifice her (and myself, any other soldier under my command) in order to win the war.

For me the decision was much easier than for others, because I'd already eliminated the geth back on Rannoch.

[LieutenantSarcasm]

Why not MEHEM? All of my ME has been done on X360. Otherwise, totally MEHEM.

[Applepie_Svk]

nice signature OP, but I would add...

BioWare [ME3ending] narrative and plot

[Pakundo]

LieutenantSarcasm wrote...

Why not MEHEM? All of my ME has been done on X360. Otherwise, totally MEHEM.

So watch it on YouTube, or just voice your opinion in favor of it, just don't hold back and accept Destroy because it's supposedly the "close enough" ending that you have.

[nrobbiec]

Why not MEHEM? Headcanon is for epilogues not the ending, Catalyst is canon.

[SurelyItsJames]

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. My shepard doesn't trust the catalyst nor does he trust the entity that will be formed after he dies to control the reapers in a peaceful manner. What happens if the new catalyst changes its mind? Or the Krogan or Rachni try to conquer again and the reapers have to intervene? No one should have control of that power.

[LieutenantSarcasm]

Pakundo wrote...

So watch it on YouTube, or just voice your opinion in favor of it, just don't hold back and accept Destroy because it's supposedly the "close enough" ending that you have.

Sorry, I din't mean to imply I defend destroy very hard. I just meant to imply I pick that in-game as the best option available for me. Out of the game, I'm not a huge advocate for destroy.

[Luder09]

My love for the Geth died with Legion, even though he gave himself up to give the Geth individuality, they didn't matter to me anymore, as for EDI, there's probably a copy of her kicking around on a floppy disk somewhere.

[Mims]

I like MEHEM! And believe me, I dislike the fact that EDI and the Geth are killed without so much as a nod in the ending slides.

But here is how I can rationalize it when not using the above mod or headcanoning they 'just got better'. And its pretty simple. WE are the only person who knows that every option will work. I can sit here pondering what choice to make because I know all the outcomes- Shepard doesn't. In Shepard's mind there's no reason to believe everything the Catalyst says.

In fact, even if Shepard believes she's possibly killing EDI and the Geth, she also believes she's going to die in the process.

I think a key factor in shoveling the guilt about this is that Shepard doesn't offer up EDI or the Geth as trade. It isn't a trade. Its the reapers that impose this demand- and my Shepard likely holds the majority of the blame towards the reapers for bringing them to that conclusion. They are the final casualties of a very brutal war.

[Helios969]

I just head canon that the geth survive as does EDI-the body. EDI-the Normandy is destroyed as she is made from reaper-tech. Geth-EDI dying was purely a writing mechanism to keep everyone from shooting the tube. It really doesn't make much logical sense outside that.

[im commander shep]

At the end of the day they are synthetic and can be created again. Ok never the same but they could be in a galaxy free of reapers. Also quite clearly star brat did not want u to pick destroy and I hate star brat so easy choice.

[lofte_2000]

destroy should of been the only option looking at the poll, varying levels of success depending on EMS. you know just like me2!

[AlexMBrennan]

Simples: Because synthetics die either way but if you pick destroy some of the other species might live.
At the end of day, you are asking a hypothetical question - "What should Shepard pick if he had knowledge of the epilogue?"; however, since Shepard does not the answer is irrelevant to my choice - because Bioware screwed up exposition, a moral question becomes a game of I know you know I know.

Why not MEHEM?

Because it's a multiple choice question: A, B, C or D. If you have to pick one of them, then by definition of having to pick one of them, you cannot pick E.
If I had the option of taking a third option P&P style (unlike human DM, computers can't make up consequences on the spot and thus limit the player to a pre-determined set of choices), I'd change a lot (call the Council about the Rachni in Me1 - it's not like they are going anywhere; make Hacket do his job and have him decide on fleet-level strategy; shoot Miranda when she points a gun at Shepard's squad on Lazarus station; surrender the Normandy SR2 to the Alliance; space EDI; etc).
I think that the trilogy would play out rather differently so arbitrarily allowing that only for the final choice (because you love some piece of fanfiction) is silly

[DanHarbinger]

Because the alternatives are even more abhorrent.

[Minttymint]

All the sacrifices that have happened in everything up to that point but this is what gets you going?
Synthesis dooms people to a life many of them probably don't want so that's out of the question for me, control turns Shepard into some god-like thing which I'm against and in destroy Shepard does what they have been trying to achieve from the get-go... Destroy the reapers; not control them like TIM or insist everyone must be the "perfect" mix of both for there to be any kind of peace like Saren. Besides in my headcannon version of the endgame the Geth and Edi survive hip, hip, hurrah!

[Pakundo]

So, should I just accept the endings of Mass Effect 3 as gaming's biggest and best examples of a choice of compromises?

Modifié par Pakundo, 08 mars 2013 - 01:44 .

[CaptainZaysh]

Personally I think it's great that there's no perfect outcome. Happy endings are for massages.

[LieutenantSarcasm]

Pakundo wrote...

So, should I just accept the endings of Mass Effect 3 as gaming's biggest and best examples of a choice of compromises?

On consoles, there really is no choice. On PC, Get the mod and don't compromise. Use shep's advice.

[o Ventus]

Because the synthetics can be rebuilt to exact specifications.

It's a non-issue.

[LieutenantSarcasm]

o Ventus wrote...

Because the synthetics can be rebuilt to exact specifications.

It's a non-issue.

Their bodies can, the mind cannot. It's rather like keeping someone alive who is brain dead, or a massive lobotomy.

[Pakundo]

o Ventus wrote...

Because the synthetics can be rebuilt to exact specifications.

It's a non-issue.

http://masseffect.wi...al_Intelligence

[Battlebloodmage]

MEHEM is a fan-made ending, meaning that it's not "canon", in a sense that when Bioware makes not ME4, unless they set it in a parallel universe, the ending we have may carried over to the next game. I consider the universe set by the developers to be the actual "canon", so despite how much I like Kaidan, I could not use the mod during ME1.

As for why I choose ending, I don't trust the star kids. If organics make new synthesis in the future and destroy the universe. It's their damn fault, not my Shep. Besides, my Shep had loved ones waiting for them at home. I would feel more incline to choose the other endings if I wasn't romanced Kaidan, I suppose. Don't get me wrong, EDI is my favorite female squadmate, so I do feel bad for her, but while I roleplay, I roleplay as an emotional guy who made a promise to his mother and his friends that he would return. Would synthesis lead to a better life? Probably, but my Shepard's only thought at the moment was to destroy the Reapers, take revenge for all the people that had been killed, and return home safely.

[Fawx9]

Pakundo wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Because the synthetics can be rebuilt to exact specifications.

It's a non-issue.

http://masseffect.wi...al_Intelligence

Which the Geth aren't.

The only AI you kill is EDI.

[TheWill]

id sacrifice all humans to end the reapers.. any race for that matter.. in a way your showing just how much you value them... besides the geth sided with the reapers as it was preferable to extinction... i dont like that... its the free will thing i dont like.. now they have souls.. its time to take them away... but their sacrifice will never be forgotten.. hopefuly