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DRM. Just another way of saying "We'd like to f*** our paying customers." I don't game on PC partly for this reason. Whatever their faults, Sony and MS have done a decent job protecting the end user from some of the more insane publisher initiatives visited upon PC users. The worst thing about DRM and always-on play is that it frequently makes playing the game hellish, deters piracy only by making the game unplayable seemingly at random, and generally only affects legitimate game owners.

There are many more terrors of EA. I made it ten minutes in Dead Space 3 before microtransactions reared their ugly heads. They are becoming more prevalent and, along with DLC, are making $60 feel like a down payment on a $200 game.

Modifié par BryceH, 08 mars 2013 - 04:53 .


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C0MB0 wrote...

Still better than playing COD.


Black ops 2 online game play is much better and polished than me3 mp. It takes 2 minutes from desktop to a team death match game
Launch week was messy but I never found any problems with the online aspect. 

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Origin just shows us how good Steam actually works.
btw: had my 2nd Online Passcode Issue yesterday, still not fully fixed, EA support told me to "wait for the next ME3 patch". Lovely.


See, this company deserved that poo award. They put all these things in the way of actually playing the games you pay for, then when you have a problem they give arbitrary wait times in hopes you will just go away. Then wehn you get through they give you the run around.

The next ME3 patch? Eric said they don't have a patch planned.

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Dp

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Lmao, look at you people, hating on EA for no reason.

Go educate yourselves and read an entry on Cliff Bleszinski's blog, the one on micro transactions. Good day.

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Those idiots are making dumd becisions and their server! sucks! Cant`t even play my new simcity because of those sh!tty servers!

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billy the squid wrote...

Chealec wrote...

Actually - I remember reading an article in PC Gamer recently that said publishers place great weight on scores given to games on metacritic and they'll really kick **** out of devs that screw up and get bad metacritic reviews.

In a way, this is a shame because this recent always-on DRM BS debacle means that Maxis are in for a complete fkn roasting - the game is down to 1.6 out of 10 now due to MASSIVE amounts of negative reviews lambasting it because people can't play the game because EAs servers are so shoddy:

http://www.metacriti...ty/user-reviews


I doubt the Devs will get a kicking when the anger is being aimed squarely at EA. I've not seen anything too critical of the game itself, but it's getting hammered in every user review because of the always online component, and EA's shoddy servers.

I'm sensing another Spore style hammering again. Image IPB

Clearly EA hasn'r realised that intrusive DRM is not the way to go, you would have thought that after Diablo 3, Spore, the debacles with Ubisoft, but apparantly not. :pinched:




You guys are obviously not tech junkies. Google messed up their Nexus 7 release in the summer of 2012, and promptly proceed to make a much bigger mess of their Nexus 4 release in November.

They don't learn.

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redBadger14 wrote...

Lmao, look at you people, hating on EA for no reason.

Go educate yourselves and read an entry on Cliff Bleszinski's blog, the one on micro transactions. Good day.


You are an absolute tool. Begone puppet.

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Well, if all goes to **** i can always play uncharted 2.

A game that didnt't stomp my dreams into submission.

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redBadger14 wrote...

Lmao, look at you people, hating on EA for no reason.

Go educate yourselves and read an entry on Cliff Bleszinski's blog, the one on micro transactions. Good day.


Trust me. There are many more reasons to despise EA other than microtransactions and DRM.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 08 mars 2013 - 03:33 .


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redBadger14 wrote...

Lmao, look at you people, hating on EA for no reason.

Go educate yourselves and read an entry on Cliff Bleszinski's blog, the one on micro transactions. Good day.


You fail at trolling.

and if this isn't trolling,

then you are a butthugger. 

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"Always On" is one of the most evil, selfish things devised by man.

I have no examples of good business stemming from the practice, just bigs, glitches, lost value, and resentment. If it is the way of the future, gaming will die.

I think the article is wrong about that not changing. Good business sense is that you don't waste 10% of your resources trying to protect 5% of your resources. EA is shooting itself in the foot.

Make things that work. Get more customers.

That's good business practice.

Sorry, rant over.

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 08 mars 2013 - 03:38 .


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redBadger14 wrote...

Lmao, look at you people, hating on EA for no reason.

Go educate yourselves and read an entry on Cliff Bleszinski's blog, the one on micro transactions. Good day.


The guy who brought us the "SEASON PASS" defending microtransactions?!  Holy ****, Cliff, tell us more!

Let's compare two games, one from EA and one from Valve.

Portal 2: $0 spent on SP DLC.
ME3: $10 for Leviathan, $15 for Omega, $15 for Citadel.  That's $100 just to experience all the SP content if you bought the game on day one.

That companies readily divorce SP content from games to charge money for them later is well known.  That EA has become the king of this is undisputed.  Here's a novel idea: they should charge WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS.  If you think your game, with all of its bugs and glitches and errors, is worth one hundred of my dollars, then slap a hundred dollar sticker on that sum**** and see how it sells.

It's deliberately deceptive marketing, and anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is probably still paying for things with mom's credit card.

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EA isn't at fault by any means.

Consumers are.

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BryceH wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

Lmao, look at you people, hating on EA for no reason.

Go educate yourselves and read an entry on Cliff Bleszinski's blog, the one on micro transactions. Good day.


The guy who brought us the "SEASON PASS" defending microtransactions?!  Holy ****, Cliff, tell us more!

Let's compare two games, one from EA and one from Valve.

Portal 2: $0 spent on SP DLC.
ME3: $10 for Leviathan, $15 for Omega, $15 for Citadel.  That's $100 just to experience all the SP content if you bought the game on day one.

That companies readily divorce SP content from games to charge money for them later is well known.  That EA has become the king of this is undisputed.  Here's a novel idea: they should charge WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS.  If you think your game, with all of its bugs and glitches and errors, is worth one hundred of my dollars, then slap a hundred dollar sticker on that sum**** and see how it sells.

It's deliberately deceptive marketing, and anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is probably still paying for things with mom's credit card.

Portal 2 : 6 more hours of the same thing I did in Portal
ME3 : over 300 hours only in MP

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Ha, you actually think I'm trolling. That's cute.

Afraid to get smacked down by the truth from Cliff B is nothing to be defensive about. Cliff is one of the best game designers out there, currently unemployed by any particular game company. If anyone is more in-touch and knowledgeable about the issue, its him.

But keep prancing along like you guys know anything and can use that as ammo against EA, its still very cute.

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I remember how simple quake 3 arena match making was. Just find a low ping server and snipe nooks with the rail gun. No hip fire penalty!

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Good job once again EA.  You never learn from your countless mistakes and moronic actions.

Apparently they just released a patch promising fixes.  I doubt it does anything.

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longgamma wrote...

I remember how simple quake 3 arena match making was. Just find a low ping server and snipe nooks with the rail gun. No hip fire penalty!

Remember when people could play games just for the fun during matches and didn't need near constant unlocks and gratification ?

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Klokos wrote...

BryceH wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

Lmao, look at you people, hating on EA for no reason.

Go educate yourselves and read an entry on Cliff Bleszinski's blog, the one on micro transactions. Good day.


The guy who brought us the "SEASON PASS" defending microtransactions?!  Holy ****, Cliff, tell us more!

Let's compare two games, one from EA and one from Valve.

Portal 2: $0 spent on SP DLC.
ME3: $10 for Leviathan, $15 for Omega, $15 for Citadel.  That's $100 just to experience all the SP content if you bought the game on day one.

That companies readily divorce SP content from games to charge money for them later is well known.  That EA has become the king of this is undisputed.  Here's a novel idea: they should charge WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS.  If you think your game, with all of its bugs and glitches and errors, is worth one hundred of my dollars, then slap a hundred dollar sticker on that sum**** and see how it sells.

It's deliberately deceptive marketing, and anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is probably still paying for things with mom's credit card.

Portal 2 : 6 more hours of the same thing I did in Portal
ME3 : over 300 hours only in MP


Go back and read my post.  SP MEANS SINGLEPLAYER.  I was not addressing MULTIPLAYER.

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Da the f**k? You need to be logged online to play even the offline mode?!:huh:

I've heard some stupid gaming news in my time but this ranks very high up.

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Ah..SimCity
I haven't even been able to log into the server since launch day.

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Amen!
Stick it to the man!
Fight the power!
Blah blah blah

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redBadger14 wrote...

Ha, you actually think I'm trolling. That's cute.

Afraid to get smacked down by the truth from Cliff B is nothing to be defensive about. Cliff is one of the best game designers out there, currently unemployed by any particular game company. If anyone is more in-touch and knowledgeable about the issue, its him.

But keep prancing along like you guys know anything and can use that as ammo against EA, its still very cute.


I referenced his blog post above and even made the direct comparison that he made, with an EA game and a Valve game.  Hey, why don't you go holla atcha boy and ask him about that?  I'll wait.

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EA server is a bane of the ME3 MP gameplay.I,and my fellow coutrymen,we love this game,but we have suffered a lot from the EA server,for a whole year.Many of us cursed EA server everyday,some fo us quit,some of us resolve to cheating,only a few of us stayed.We have fun playing MP everyday,but at the same time,we got punished everyday,disconnect,stuck in joining,losing credits after game,etc,just like how Zeus punished Prometheus.Game crashing on DLC check,which just happened recently,like a plague,spreading among us.We have tried all we can try,EA support just couldn't do anything,there is no real solution yet,very disappointing.We always warned the newcomers who want to buy and play MP that they should be prepared,prepared to lose something, credits,mood,or maybe faith.