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[Harle Cerulean]

Dude, how many times do you have to be told that you'll get that information when Bioware is ready to release it? Repeated begging isn't going to change their minds, it's just going to make them think you're obnoxious.

[Scarlet Rabbi]

You call that begging? I think you can beg far better than that

[Fast Jimmy]

BasilKarlo wrote...

Where the hell did that $600 price tag come from? None of the rumors even put the price that high for either console.
And if you need to start squirreling away now to afford a $300-$500 purchase then you probably shouldn't be spending that money on video games.

That was my bad, I was basing it off the PS3's opening price. I seem to remember the 360's debut price being not as high, but still over $400, possibly closer to $500.  

And rumors are just rumors. The price tag will be what the price tag is. I was simply basing it off the numbers from the last generation.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I personally can't think of a time when buying a new console at launch was ever a good idea. Ever.

PS2.  It was one of the cheapest DVD players available, in addition to being a brand new gaming console.  Buying a PS2 at launch made perfect sense.

[mousestalker]

OP, try asking your question here. You might have better luck.

[cindercatz]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I personally can't think of a time when buying a new console at launch was ever a good idea. Ever.

PS2.  It was one of the cheapest DVD players available, in addition to being a brand new gaming console.  Buying a PS2 at launch made perfect sense.

True. My PS3 is also my BluRay player this generation, but I waited more than two years to get it.

[Steppenwolf]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Where the hell did that $600 price tag come from? None of the rumors even put the price that high for either console.
And if you need to start squirreling away now to afford a $300-$500 purchase then you probably shouldn't be spending that money on video games.

That was my bad, I was basing it off the PS3's opening price. I seem to remember the 360's debut price being not as high, but still over $400, possibly closer to $500.  

And rumors are just rumors. The price tag will be what the price tag is. I was simply basing it off the numbers from the last generation.

The 360 was $400 at launch. And considering how quickly Sony remedied their mistake of charging $600 you can reasonably assume they won't be charging that much for the PS4.

[cindercatz]

Well, closer to $500 if you got one with a decent hard drive, wireless controller, etc., and then you had the extra expense of a fan if you didn't want the red ring of death. If it comes down to waiting to get something I can use or spending half for a product I'll have to go out and swap parts (at greater expense) to get decent use out of, I'm going to wait for the price to come down. The presense of lower cost alternative packages is useless if that lower cost is crippling to my entertainment value using that system. That was particularly memory (both) and backwards compatibility (for the PS3) last time, wireless control (360) to a lesser extent. If they offer similarly less than fully functional alternatives at half the price this time again, those may as well not exist either, as far as I'm concerned.

[David Gaider]

We haven't announced what platforms the game will be on-- at all. When we do the reveal for DA3, that will no doubt be information offered then. Until that happens, and you even have an idea of the official release date, it's not something with which you need to concern yourselves.

[TJPags]

So Spake DG.

Or, as I read it: None of your business whether the equipment you have will be able to play this game as you hope.

[ShadyKat]

I'm pretty sure that DA3 will be next gen. The PS4 will launch holiday season, this year. Also it appears the new Xbox will as well. And DA3 from rumors, will hit stores this holiday season as well. Seems to make sense that it will be a launch title for those systems.

[Droma]

ShadyKat wrote...

I'm pretty sure that DA3 will be next gen. The PS4 will launch holiday season, this year. Also it appears the new Xbox will as well. And DA3 from rumors, will hit stores this holiday season as well. Seems to make sense that it will be a launch title for those systems.

I agree, altough I would say it will be in the launch window, not a launch title. But as mentioned earlier, third parties nearly never release any big games only for the new generation. they always have a version for the older generation. It's simple business and I would guess you won't see the first "pure ps4/xbox720" third party titles until holiday season 2014. But as Mr. Gaider mentioned, everything so far is just guessing around and we will simply see when there are more infos on DA:I (my strong guess is E3 btw =D)

Modifié par Droma, 08 mars 2013 - 10:13 .

[Degs29]

-TC1989- wrote...
Yeah I don't plan on buying the next Xbox, atleast until awhile after the release date.

Interesting.  If there's one thing Bioware's DLC model has convinced me of, it's to wait a couple years before picking up their games at discount with all the DLC included.  I guess you can draw a parallel between that and consoles.  Buying a console at launch seems like a losing proposition.  It's damn expensive, could have many bugs and possible hardware failures.  It seems always better to wait...unless you have money to blow and just need to get your hands on everything new.

[-TC1989-]

Degs29 wrote...

-TC1989- wrote...
Yeah I don't plan on buying the next Xbox, atleast until awhile after the release date.

Interesting.  If there's one thing Bioware's DLC model has convinced me of, it's to wait a couple years before picking up their games at discount with all the DLC included.  I guess you can draw a parallel between that and consoles.  Buying a console at launch seems like a losing proposition.  It's damn expensive, could have many bugs and possible hardware failures.  It seems always better to wait...unless you have money to blow and just need to get your hands on everything new.

That too definately. Hardware failures put me through 3 Xbox's. That alone would make me cautious of purchasing one, not only to see how well DA3 is received (again assuming it's a next generation title only), but how the Xbox itself holds up. I will do everything I can to avoid going through that again

[Steppenwolf]

ShadyKat wrote...
 And DA3 from rumors, will hit stores this holiday season as well.

That's not a rumor. That comes directly from BioWare.

[deuce985]

Logic says yes. I'd be shocked if it didn't come out for PS3/360. EA/Bioware like money like any business and that's one way to maximize their profit. Just chill. Sit back and wait for an announcement.

2 million install base(probably max of what they're going to ship day 1 for new consoles) versus 140 million+(between 360/PS3)...you figure it up. Which install base is likely to make you more money?

Modifié par deuce985, 08 mars 2013 - 10:46 .

[David Gaider]

BasilKarlo wrote...
That's not a rumor. That comes directly from BioWare.

It's not a rumor, but until we give an official release date I wouldn't put much stock in it.

[Steppenwolf]

David Gaider wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...
That's not a rumor. That comes directly from BioWare.

It's not a rumor, but until we give an official release date I wouldn't put much stock in it.

...Laidlaw reiterated that release window like 2 weeks ago.

[David Gaider]

BasilKarlo wrote...
...Laidlaw reiterated that release window like 2 weeks ago.

It is not. An official. Release date.

It's a target, and can change at any time.

[Fast Jimmy]

^

IT'S NOT A TUMOR! /Arnold Schwarzenager voice

Sorry, first thing that popped into my head. Although a target window is the earliest we will get the game. If one doesn't prepare for the earliest possible date, one could find themselves wih their pants around their proverbial legs.

[Sir George Parr]

It will be out soon enough. Some people need to stop wishing their lives away waiting for this title to appear.

[Fast Jimmy]

A dream... is a wish... your heart makes...

...when you're fast asleep...

[Steppenwolf]

David Gaider wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...
...Laidlaw reiterated that release window like 2 weeks ago.

It is not. An official. Release date.

It's a target, and can change at any time.

I didn't call it a release date. I specifically called it a release window. And pointed out, in response to your statement that we shouldn't put much stock into it, that Mike Laidlaw reiterated that window very recently...

Modifié par BasilKarlo, 09 mars 2013 - 12:29 .

[asindre]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

It may also mean I miss playing a lot of other cool games that won't see a dime because I'm hiding my money in a box in the backyard for no good reason. While it will be cool for me to hit a $600 lottery, it will also be at the expense of missed sales for other developers. 

Fast Jimmy wrote...

LOL Fair enough. 

Technically, the entire conversation doesn't really apply to me personally, as I don't buy games but rather rent them through Gamefly and am not really interested in the new consoles until they slide down in price. I'm merely making the argument from the perspective of other possible consumers. 

I'm nothing if not a man of the people.

Just wanted to point out the irony here