mahditaghvar wrote...
first : bi characters have nothing to do with it , Bioware's new style however has . second , KotOR was a good example : a game that was built with consoles in mind where DA:O was not . If I'd want to play an Action-RPG I would go to Witcher series which are built with heavy action in mind , so does Dues Ex , and even Dark Souls a little bit . but where else I'd find a proper tactilcal point & click RPG other than DA:O ? oh and one more thing : DA series have never needed a high-end PC . I have played both of them and all their DLCs on a 4 years old Laptop and I'm sure I'll buy a new one by the time DA:I comes out , or even before it cause this thing is becoming a little bit knackered . thing is , you have to have a jub (and be single 
) to pay for games . by the way as I said this thread is for console fans of DA series , whom
fortunately are not many (like bi-characters fans) .
Man, I've got other things to think about with my money, limitations and expenses I'll not go into here. My entire family, which is solidly middle class, with all our income, are not able to support modern PC gaming. I used to be a PC gamer. I flat love Total War, with a passion, pretty close to how much I love DA (on console) with a passion. But real life, my life, says PC gaming is no longer an option, except for very low end games and old games that don't require me to go out and get a new PC every year or practically by replacing the entire thing piece by piece over and over again. PC gaming is great if you've got the disposable income you're not spending elsewhere and don't mind the hassle, and all power to anybody that prefers it for themselves, but it's just not practical for me and a lot of people.
Then also consider that I love this kind of game too, and there really aren't other games out there of this sort. I'm playing Witcher now that it's on console, but it's an entirely different kind of game franchise, and I don't enjoy the combat (or your alternative to point and click) at all really. I liked Deus Ex (not nearly as much as DA:O), but that's again a completely different kind of game. For me, it's functionally a stealth game with an interesting conversation system. I have limited interest in Dark Souls or Demon Souls before it because they're basically action games, and I have less interest in action games. I'm an RPG guy primarily, definitely not an action-RPG guy. I skip those for the most part. I skipped KoAmulur, as a recent example. I skip the vast majority of them. I don't care all that much for aRPG mechanics or their (usual) lack of depth. I specifically love this particular kind of game that BioWare makes, which is why I'm on these boards, and I prefer them on console. I love this kind of game. I just don't love the actual point and click control scheme that you typically use on PC (though I absolutely support it's presense for PC gamers that want it). And don't take that for any opinion on auto-attack. I can't play DA without auto-attack. I don't generally like button mashers. Thankfully I do love the alternate style controls in DA:O, KoTOR, etc. Same game, different way of interacting with it.
The only, and I mean only, thing better about PC versions of these games are the modding communities and how that's allowed on PC. I dream of that being adopted by consoles. I used to enjoy modding games myself. I was a skinner, and I loved playing or working on modded games. If that was your arguement, I'd agree with the point. But it's not.
And please don't pull out DA2 as some kind of console nirvana. I love DA:O and I'm probably as critical of DA2 as you are, if not more. The things I do like about it have nothing to do with whether it's console or PC. Your idea of DA:O being loved en masse on PC and generally not liked so much by console players is a myth, pure and simple, and just browsing the boards here should inform you to that effect. And their "new style" is a shifting, changing thing. The only given is the "cinematic" trend, and that really doesn't have much to do with whether it's a console or PC thing.
I hope you get your isometric view back as a PC option. I just prefer to play in third person. I like looking around the battlefield and making decisions from that perspective. When I played Total War (once they started zooming in with Rome), I'd constantly zoom in and out of the isometric and cinematic views, with all the activity on display, and that only made the games better, much as I loved Shogun and Medieval. But that was directing the flow of a battle from a god's eye view. Zooming out for Dragon Age to choose a special move doesn't appeal to me at all, and I can manage and control the party and the battlefield just fine in third person.
I hope you can see how your console game/gamer assumptions just plain don't apply to me, or to a lot of console gamers. We can all co-exist and get games for all platforms and get the best possible games in the offing. Consoles aren't killing your games. Removing them from console would kill them for me.
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. then again , much of the old Bioware lovers are used to tactical camera . it realy makes the game like chess sometimes : you see the whole battlefield from tactical perspective and have to decide which move you should make . it was somehow stupid to play DA2 by point & click but without isometric camera , and I still believe Bioware put aside tactical view so it would be easier to be built on consoles . I told you about my non-high end 4 year old laptop and I have a X360 as well . I use the laptop mostly to work and play the majority of games on X360 , but play some (like strategy genre and games like DA:O) on laptop . now thing is the console game must remain the console game and the PC game must remain the PC game . DA:O had that balance pretty well , where DA2 didn't . so I hope DA3:I will restore that balance like you said .
