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[SavagelyEpic]

Ziegrif wrote...

How the hell did you manage to get 6 posts in a row?

[TheThirdRace]

Violent_Lucidity wrote...

I've got Thermal Clip capacity up to 5, and medigel up to 6, but my missiles and Ops Packs are stuck at 3.

I checked your manifest and unless you need to master the tips I gave, you're ready for Gold no problem. You got enough missiles for the emergencies, you just need to be smart about it. The Medigels are perfect at 5, Ops packs and Thermal Clip aren't that much required on Gold, you just have to be a bit more patient and force a bit less your luck.

[TheThirdRace]

GiroX- wrote...

Bummer, I was looking forward to a few more Platinum tips.

Everyone says its not much harder then Gold, and they're sort of right, but everything on Platinum takes so much damage that barely any classes work for me. At least, barely any work for me compared to Gold where I have no problem with any class on U/U.

Do people pick U/U/P and run, say SE decoy build or other vanilla classes, and consistently do well in PuG's?

EDIT: I just I'm a classical ME3 guy, I dont like the new cutting edge powers as much as the ME staples.

I was hesitant to put more in Platinum because I didn't want it to become the debate. Builds, weapons and such are more often than not personal preferences. After mastering all the tips I gave, you can easily make your own opinion on how to tackle a problem that could arise, so I decided to be more evasive in that case.

I'm open to any tips.

[BeanieBack]

Thanks for taking the time to write this, it helps a lot. I've been trying to move up to gold but I'm a bit nervous I might mess things up for the team.

[Gylukios]

If I may add to this, I'll throw in some of my time-honored Manifest Cheating Tips!

These are for new players who want/need to hide the level of their pathetic manifest so they can fool PUGs into thinking they have more unlocks than they actually do, and allow them to play in difficulties they would otherwise be instantly kicked from. All of these methods and even dirtier tricks have all been tested on my PC - Scrubblepuss account (manifest on right of sig).

Because with all the N7 levels, challenge points, and banners we have, there is no sign you can hang up that informs others that "Hey, let me in, I'm actually pretty good at this!"

(Alert = Text Wall incoming)

Note: These are not gameplay tips. Once you get into that Gold/Platinum match, how well you do once you get there is not up to me. Unlocking anything in this game in a decent amount of time takes a lot of credits, and I believe funding on Silvers is no longer adequate to get your manifest up to Gold ready levels without a huge time investment, which can be halved if you can cheat your way into Gold.

Tip # 1 -  Get your hands on a Ultra-Rare/Promotional weapon as soon as possible

I'm putting this one first because it is my single greatest tip for manifest hiding. Ultra-Rares are, by their nature, hard to obtain. Many people playing since release don't have many of these at very high levels. Promotionals are even better for this, because their upgrade rate is locked to weekend challenges. Some people with otherwise maxed manifests are running around with low level Valiants and Hurricanes. Get a hold of a few of these quickly, and use them to the point of perfection. Equip them whenever you're trying out for Gold.

Tip # 2 - Get yourself some kind of banner

This one might take you a while, but it adds a certain amount of credibility to your account. The weapon ones, Tech and Biotic Mastery should be the fastest and easiest. If you're having trouble, just solo bronze to do them. It proves you have enough weapons/characters to complete one or more of these, but nobody needs to know they're all at lvl 1.

Tip # 3 - No one knows the level of your weapon mods

Pretty self-explanitory. Short of looking up your manifest on the N7HQ (and anyone doing that in the first place will not be fooled by any of these tricks), no one has any idea of the level of your weapon mods. So there's no need to rush Veteran Packs to get lvl 5 Extended Barrel and Pierce Mods, the lvl 1's you'll pull out of SP/PSPs will do fine.

Tip # 4 - Raise that N7 level

N7 Level is meaningless. However, it's one of the only metrics we have to measure players up, so we're going to get the most out of those character cards while they're still there. Any time you recieve a character card when that class is level 20, you're wasting free experience you could have used to cheat boost your N7 level. Do not buy SPs or PSPs when your classes are all lvl 20. There's a chance you could get a character card and waste its EXP. Instead, buy Arsenal packs for rare weapons at most times. When your classes are all lvl 20, save up your money (I usually do 1 mil), promote all your characters at once, then blow your savings on Reserves packs. The EXP from the cards will level your characters at their weakest state and enable you to get into Silver faster, which will all help boost your N7 level.

Tip # 5 - Games in progress are a godsend

If you join a game in progress, you have skip the loadout screen and no one will have any idea that Widow you're holding is only lvl 1. Abuse this by selecting an enemy and map all of the time when searching for a game, to better your chances of joining in progress.

I'll try to see if I can think of any more of these.

[Kaall]

this thread should be stickied.

[TheThirdRace]

Gylukios wrote...

If I may add to this, I'll throw in some of my time-honored Manifest Cheating Tips!

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Yeah, that's the kind of thing I discourage... I want them to be ready, not abuse the system... Cheater's gonna cheat I guess

[Draining Dragon]

Step 1: Open the Search menu.

Step 2: Click the arrow pointing to the right next to the difficulty.

[ClydeInTheShell]

This is helpful. I guess all I'd want to add is:

- If you've ever played a run (where you were an active participant) and not died or had to use a rocket, you're ready to move up

I didn't know all of those tricks about maxing your manifest faster until a few days ago, I play a lot of gold now so it's probably a bit too late but hopefully it helps one of these whippersnappers out.

[VirtualAlex]

TheThirdRace wrote...

[Platinum]
[*]Try to lose the Fitness all together. Everything will strip your shield in 1 shot anyway, having more shield and health will make you last 1 more Marauder shot, meaning you're dead either way

I agree with this 100%. I did a pretty deep dive nito fitness on gold last week, it's a good read, with graphs. But bascially it's true. Even on gold your shields need to be 990+ to really see much value. Most of the non-tanky classes cannot reach this number even at rank 6 fitness. And that is on gold. On platinum your shields need to be over 1300 to get the same value.

[TheThirdRace]

VirtualAlex wrote...

TheThirdRace wrote...

[Platinum]
[*]Try to lose the Fitness all together. Everything will strip your shield in 1 shot anyway, having more shield and health will make you last 1 more Marauder shot, meaning you're dead either way

I agree with this 100%. I did a pretty deep dive nito fitness on gold last week, it's a good read, with graphs. But bascially it's true. Even on gold your shields need to be 990+ to really see much value. Most of the non-tanky classes cannot reach this number even at rank 6 fitness. And that is on gold. On platinum your shields need to be over 1300 to get the same value.

I saw your thread on the BSN and it was a great read. I never did the math, but I had my suspicions.

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

TheThirdRace wrote...

VirtualAlex wrote...

TheThirdRace wrote...

[Platinum]
[*]Try to lose the Fitness all together. Everything will strip your shield in 1 shot anyway, having more shield and health will make you last 1 more Marauder shot, meaning you're dead either way

I agree with this 100%. I did a pretty deep dive nito fitness on gold last week, it's a good read, with graphs. But bascially it's true. Even on gold your shields need to be 990+ to really see much value. Most of the non-tanky classes cannot reach this number even at rank 6 fitness. And that is on gold. On platinum your shields need to be over 1300 to get the same value.

I saw your thread on the BSN and it was a great read. I never did the math, but I had my suspicions.

Weird how everything wants a bullet now when I try to quote this thread... Formatted in a Word Processor methinks....
[*]Well, since I cannot avoid it, bullets it is. I agree that fitness is mostly wasted on squishier kits, but surely Drell is an exception to this rule....

[TheThirdRace]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...
Weird how everything wants a bullet now when I try to quote this thread... Formatted in a Word Processor methinks....
Well, since I cannot avoid it, bullets it is. I agree that fitness is mostly wasted on squishier kits, but surely Drell is an exception to this rule....

No Word processor, just crappy text input method from BSN... I use the BBCode just because the normal edit is very very crappy at remembering your formatting...

As for Drell, I agree because of the speed Fitness evo 6 gives. You should never spec out of it!

[Gylukios]

TheThirdRace wrote...

Gylukios wrote...

If I may add to this, I'll throw in some of my time-honored Manifest Cheating Tips!

...

Yeah, that's the kind of thing I discourage... I want them to be ready, not abuse the system... Cheater's gonna cheat I guess

"Being ready for Gold" isn't something you can show on a ready-up screen.

Most of my manifest on Xbox (left side of sig) was achieved on Silver. I could not have the skills for Gold and no one would have any idea until the match started. But because I have high level weapons, classes, N7, and challenge points, I'd have to seriously try very hard to get myself kicked from a game.

As an example that personally infuriated me during my first few days of playing on PC: Adpets do not require heavy gun use. On Gold, they can mostly get away with Biotic Explosions, their weapon does not matter a great deal, whether it be a Talon X or a Shuriken I. But which player is more likely to get in the match? Trying to join Gold games with the Human Adept and only my Shuriken X resulted in dismal failure. Once I perchance got a Paladin I, I was suddenly accepted into almost every match. My skills had not changed. My weapon use in-match did not go up significantly. My manifest simply looked more appealing.

[Althix]

if you are playing on pc human adept 4th evo on shockwave - radius - is broken. do not pick that, shockwave stop working in the middle of the game.

human vanilla kits (which you have two at start are doing great on platinum as well)

for platinum runs you need at least one person you know (a friend), so you can farm platinum in 24-26 minutes in half pug party.

for bronze/silver/gold fitness tree is not important on all kits.

study and memorize all tech and biotics combos.

do not use overload on a target that have biotic primer on it(warp and overload don't mix well). or you will be cursed to burn in nine hells for eternity.

- staying in one place means death.
- rushing to EZ at the beginning of wave 11 means death. good player enters EZ 00:002. pro - 00:00. it can explained by one simple fact, EZ will be swarmed by shees, primes, dragoons and other mobs on gold and platinum level. so you gonna be dead N7.
- do not rush to a player who is currently deactivating objective (you know there is 4 of them), you will lead mobs to him. this is bad.
- nuking spawn areas of mobs is a good idea. which can be accomplished not only with missles, but with tech and biotic combos.
- objective always comes first.
- mobs are stupid, there is always a way around or through them even on platinum. Ops survival pack can help you if you are surrounded or blocked bad.
- if you about to revive a squad member under a boss or a mob that can synckill that player (which means kill him with funny animation when you revived that player) keep missle launcher in hands. just to be sure.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 08 mars 2013 - 10:56 .

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

secretsandlies wrote...

if you are playing on pc restrain your self from using human adept, because shockwave is broken still. and detonate bosses with singularity/ warp are rather tiresome.

I am sure I will be ninja'd by the OP, since you are talking about his most favorite class....

Shockwave is fine without the radius evo, and although it doesn't like targets on a different elevation, it works great otherwise. Not my favorite power, but the Shaman and OP and me will disagree that it is "broken" beyond use.

EDIT: Good read VirtualAlex.... nice to have the graphical representation backing up all those numbers, puts it in a good simple context.

Modifié par Qui-Gon Glenn, 08 mars 2013 - 10:20 .

[TheThirdRace]

Gylukios wrote...

TheThirdRace wrote...

Gylukios wrote...

If I may add to this, I'll throw in some of my time-honored Manifest Cheating Tips!

...

Yeah, that's the kind of thing I discourage... I want them to be ready, not abuse the system... Cheater's gonna cheat I guess

"Being ready for Gold" isn't something you can show on a ready-up screen.

Most of my manifest on Xbox (left side of sig) was achieved on Silver. I could not have the skills for Gold and no one would have any idea until the match started. But because I have high level weapons, classes, N7, and challenge points, I'd have to seriously try very hard to get myself kicked from a game.

As an example that personally infuriated me during my first few days of playing on PC: Adpets do not require heavy gun use. On Gold, they can mostly get away with Biotic Explosions, their weapon does not matter a great deal, whether it be a Talon X or a Shuriken I. But which player is more likely to get in the match? Trying to join Gold games with the Human Adept and only my Shuriken X resulted in dismal failure. Once I perchance got a Paladin I, I was suddenly accepted into almost every match. My skills had not changed. My weapon use in-match did not go up significantly. My manifest simply looked more appealing.

Yeah, I agree to some extent. That's why after I've read your first post I modified the "Gold" section to include using your microphone in the lobby.

Honestly, seeing someone with a Shuriken X in my lobby I would roll my eyes. It's not about the level of the gun, it's about the fact it's the starting weapon, you should have another gun that is at least an uncommon by now... Using the Acolyte 1 is an instant approval from me because that gun makes about all Adepts a force to be reckoned with. But I'll grant you this, the gun doesn't do the Adept.

[TheThirdRace]

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

secretsandlies wrote...

if you are playing on pc restrain your self from using human adept, because shockwave is broken still. and detonate bosses with singularity/ warp are rather tiresome.

I am sure I will be ninja'd by the OP, since you are talking about his most favorite class....

Shockwave is fine without the radius evo, and although it doesn't like targets on a different elevation, it works great otherwise. Not my favorite power, but the Shaman and OP and me will disagree that it is "broken" beyond use.

EDIT: Good read VirtualAlex.... nice to have the graphical representation backing up all those numbers, puts it in a good simple context.

Yeah, Shockwave is perfectly fine if you avoid Radius evolution on PC. It's a great power, just don't spam it at the side of a sniper

Now that I'm finally a BOTB, I'm gonna concentrate on my 24th Biotic God banner... Can you smell the GREATNESS!!!

[Black Phantom]

I can't take anyone suggesting running a zero fitness build on plat seriously.

The "everything takes your shields down in one hit" myth needs to die already.

[TheThirdRace]

Ashen Earth wrote...

I can't take anyone suggesting running a zero fitness build on plat seriously.

The "everything takes your shields down in one hit" myth needs to die already.

Never said you had to, I said "try" to.

That's kind of the reason I avoided most of Platinum tips, different people have different opinions. Yet all of us can play Platinum with no problem...

[U Reds]

Thanks for a great read. Very, very helpful.

[Althix]

yeah you are right. it cost me 700k to get that respec pack, but yeah radius is broken, damage is not. made a fix.

as for fitness. hmm... i am running 0/6/6/6/6 as human engi on plat. and i can tank one siege impulse from a prime with cyclonic iv. i never was so proud of human engi.

[Black Phantom]

TheThirdRace wrote...

That's kind of the reason I avoided most of Platinum tips, different people have different opinions. Yet all of us can play Platinum with no problem...

You'd be surprised.

[Althix]

i tend to agree with Ashen Earth. Fitness and shield/barrier pool is rather important on platinum. mob kills you in 3 hits, and with Fitness it is possible that mob will kill you in 4 hits(or more). and this is a huge difference. especially if you are running kits with out flashy bitz like stims or matrix.

[TheThirdRace]

secretsandlies wrote...

i tend to agree with Ashen Earth. Fitness and shield/barrier pool is rather important on platinum. mob kills you in 3 hits, and with Fitness it is possible that mob will kill you in 4 hits(or more). and this is a huge difference. especially if you are running kits with out flashy bitz like stims or matrix.

Yeah, I've been thinking a bit more about it and even though I know it's possible to run Platinum with no fitness, it takes great skills to do so. Since the thread is about playing a new difficulty, it might have been ill advised to put it up there as an "introduction" and tip. I'll be modifying the thread shortly.

I also was a bit reticient to make the changes when Ashen Earth brought it up because we had a couple disagreements in the past. He sure doesn't put his arguments in a "discussion" kind of way and this makes people less receptive to say the least...