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CITADEL DLC/latest patch causing horrible glitches that effectively ruin certain scenes


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ThinkSharp wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

And we're not getting a patch for the romance scene, folks. We're just gonna have to live with it.


I think many of us aren't hoping for a new patch as much as a rollback to the previous patch where this was not a problem.

This is a serious issue because the content has always worked fine; it's the update itself that breaks it.

We likely will have to live with it, but I greatly hope not. They aren't little ticks; the errors are fairly major and jarring in the scene. Considering it's a pivotal scene, that makes it even more of a problem. 

Let's not forget we paid for this service.


Oh God, I hope the fix is a new patch and not a rollback. The last patch is where all the SP weapons got upgraded to their MP stats. I cannot go back to an uncontrollable Hurricane.

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Xbox Liara LI, Doesnt move her lips when she talks after the dream

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Well, in some ways it looks like the product was rushed. There are some really glaring glitches in scenes where the editing was really bad. At many times there are framerate drops (on xbox) and things are not edited seamlessly so a person is there, disappears, and is back again. This happens a lot. And at one point I thought the game had frozen (when Vega meets Shepard at the apartment and they're done talking) but it was just that after loading, Shepard was not visible in the scene.

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7isMagic wrote...

A few additional thoughts since I posted in this thread yesterday:

Are folks who play this on PC having this problem? Someone who plays ME3 on PC has mentioned that the Liara romance scene in their playthrough is fine. So now I'm wondering if this is a console issue exclusively (XBox and PS3).

And as I shared upthread here yesterday, I also noticed - aside from my Liara romance scene being out of sync - that it takes just a bit longer for the elevator load screens to fade in from black. Something that didn't happen before patch 1.05. So, I'm wondering if its a load issue with the romance scenes in particular. Perhaps, it's taking just a bit too long to load the scenes (to fade in from black) and the lip sync is thrown off as a result. This, of course, may not explain the white eyes.


It could be console specific.  I know that playing ME3 sometime back on the PS3 that it didn't seem to handle memory very well-I'm pretty sure this was the problem.  It resulted in characters going missing-Liara was not there in the romance scene before Cronos which was really funny (seeing Shepard kiss the air) and in the Rannoch Reaper mission everything on the map was missing at the beginning.

On the xbox I've had characters and items go missing in other places.  On Mars, where Shepard is "carrying" Ashley there's no Ashley.  I really am wondering if a lot of this is a memory problem-a console runs out of memory to render certain objects.  The SP lag issue (lip syncing is off) might also be related to that, but I wonder if people have this problem if they play offline.  Some of the 1.05 issues were server related even when people were not playing MP games.

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Fired up my XBox version to check on this. My Liara romance (only started in ME3), lip sync glitched only after the dream and before the first Shep conv choice. I only had the patches installed though, no Omega or Citadel DLC.

PC version was fine, but I have all the DLCs there.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Anyone see any problems like this on PC? Does it happen if you haven't actually done the DLC content?


The head-turning issues.. YES I've had this on PC. Lucky a reload of a save fixed it. I was taking a screen shot of the "Family Photo" and it was creepy. I was able to load my save. I had saved just before photo --encase I missed taking the screen cap-- so I reloaded it was fine.

I have noticed in Citadel a few times when a mouth doesn't seem to move for short things, like a "Hmph!" or the like. I have not noticed the issue with the eyes.

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I'm getting a lot of Shepards lines cut before they are actually finished being spoken - very annoying. Like she will say a sentence or two then the last one cuts off and the words that are on the screen aren't spoken at all just readable. ( I have the writing up on the screen always because I get interrupted a lot and can't always hear whats going on, noisy house ).

I had a scene when FemShep was talking to Liara very early in the game and both their heads where turned in odd angles like the exorcist type deal. Not fun, these graphics glitches really need a fix. ( Xbox 360 player )

Modifié par Nykara, 11 mars 2013 - 03:00 .


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Kiwi, it's counterproductive to antagonize BioWare when asking for a fix.

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No head turning glitch, no eye glitch, no lip synch glitch.
I play on PC.

Modifié par nrobbiec, 11 mars 2013 - 03:27 .


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hmmm seems console based?

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Something that just came to me that I'm wondering about. The glitched Liara scene - it appears everyone is seeing a difference after the dream sequence (before that, everything appears normal). And I'm wondering if what people are seeing is the same or whether it is different for each player.

Liaramancers, if you have a moment, please take a look at this and let us know if your scene plays out the same or not.



(This link will take you to the halfway point of the video. I created this as a before and after video to post on EA Answers so the folks at Bioware can see that the scene was fine in my previous playthroughs).

Modifié par 7isMagic, 11 mars 2013 - 04:43 .


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7isMagic wrote...

Something that just came to me that I'm wondering about. The glitched Liara scene - it appears everyone is seeing a difference after the dream sequence (before that, everything appears normal). And I'm wondering if what people are seeing is the same or whether it is different for each player.

Liaramancers, if you have a moment, please take a look at this and let us know if your scene plays out the same or not.



(This link will take you to the halfway point of the video. I created this as a before and after video to post on EA Answers so the folks at Bioware can see that the scene was fine in my previous playthroughs).


thats the one

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Is it JUST the romance scene affected, or is the whole game like this now?

Either way I hope, SO HOPE, that Citadel is playable without getting the latest patch. Oh please please please let .04 be good enough...

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That does mean not being able to play multiplayer (deleting all patches). May not be a big deal for some but for others might be.

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-Liara bugs still exist to me (ok, I can deal)
-Aria major cutscene bugs still exist (MAJOR)
-Romance with Kaidan is destroyed now (MAJOR)
-Also other bugs introduced, like Destroy with a green overlay for part of it

I've agreed to be here for pretty much just the DLC cycle. If this is what to expect from Bioware games, I don't think I need to be on board for the future.

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just checked my kaiden playthrough and i got the exact same white eye balls and audio out of place

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@Cronodragoon

If that was to me: I don't care about multiplayer. You know how many times I've played it? Zero. How many times have I even wanted to? Zero. It may as well not exist to me.

And I don't intend to delete my patches. I just intend to keep my .04 one and hope Citadel will let itself be accessible. If not, I'll have to swallow the poison and get the .05 one after all.

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can anyone confirm if this just happens with kaiden and liara? anyone tried other romances or played the game from the begining? and noticed any other changes?

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For me, subtitles randomly disappeared whenever I was talking to Wrex and Grunt. Goddamnit. This is not what I need!

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SwobyJ wrote...

-Liara bugs still exist to me (ok, I can deal)
-Aria major cutscene bugs still exist (MAJOR)
-Romance with Kaidan is destroyed now (MAJOR)
-Also other bugs introduced, like Destroy with a green overlay for part of it

I've agreed to be here for pretty much just the DLC cycle. If this is what to expect from Bioware games, I don't think I need to be on board for the future.


Oh no - I haven't played through to the end yet and didn't realize the Destroy ending got bugged with the patch, too. :(

Sigh, I'm mostly bummed about the Kaidan romance being destroyed. 

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SwobyJ wrote...

-Liara bugs still exist to me (ok, I can deal)
-Aria major cutscene bugs still exist (MAJOR)
-Romance with Kaidan is destroyed now (MAJOR)
-Also other bugs introduced, like Destroy with a green overlay for part of it

I've agreed to be here for pretty much just the DLC cycle. If this is what to expect from Bioware games, I don't think I need to be on board for the future.


Good catch!  I forgot about that.  I experienced that too (green overlay during Destroy) - I can say with certainty this happened before the Citadel DLC, it's a Patch 1.05 issue too.

Modifié par 7isMagic, 11 mars 2013 - 05:14 .


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what exactly did patch 1.05 fix just the missile glitch in multiplayer and is there a way to remove it xbox

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Does this glitch only occur if you enter the Cronos station after you've completed the Citadel DLC or if it happens regardless. The same thing happened to me with Miranda (though I suppose that wouldn't matter as much) but if I do more playthroughs, I intend on only doing Citadel after I've finished the main game.

EDIT: It looks like according to other posts that this is a result of the patch, not the DLC mission so I guess I'm SOL

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7isMagic wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

-Liara bugs still exist to me (ok, I can deal)
-Aria major cutscene bugs still exist (MAJOR)
-Romance with Kaidan is destroyed now (MAJOR)
-Also other bugs introduced, like Destroy with a green overlay for part of it

I've agreed to be here for pretty much just the DLC cycle. If this is what to expect from Bioware games, I don't think I need to be on board for the future.


Good catch!  I forgot about that.  I experienced that too (green overlay during Destroy) - I can say with certainty this happened before the Citadel DLC, it's a Patch 1.05 issue too.


Thematically, it fits into my personal theories about the story, so I'm not so hugely fussed over it.

But major Aria and Romance scenes? NO. No, no, no. A proper game company patches these major scene issues.