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Now that me3 is complete... Whats the best game in the trilogy?


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RussianZombeh wrote...

Mass Effect was and is my all time favourite game. The gameplay (dated as it may be) is my favourite, the Galaxy felt new and exciting and I actually ****ing loved the Mako.

ME2 and ME3 are tied, with ME2 maybe coming ahead a little bit due to it's character development (specifically of Garrus and Shepard himself) and ME3's ending failure.

Music-wise, I think all three are equal. They all have amazing soundtracks that other games lack.


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Mass Effect 1, because I adore its gameplay and lack of ammo thermal clips. Mass Effect 2 is second, mostly because of the characters and the Suicide Mission. I love that mission to death. Mass Effect 3 is last because, although its combat system is freaking boss, I really can't sit through a third playthrough. I just pick up my original Shep before Cronos Station and do DLC.

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Mass Effect 2.

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Mass Effect 2. I love Mass Effect 3's multiplayer and improved gameplay, and I loved Mass Effect 1's story and RPG elements, but its just Mass Effect 2's characters that really make me love the game.

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christrek1982 wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Mass Effect was and is my all time favourite game. The gameplay (dated as it may be) is my favourite, the Galaxy felt new and exciting and I actually ****ing loved the Mako.

ME2 and ME3 are tied, with ME2 maybe coming ahead a little bit due to it's character development (specifically of Garrus and Shepard himself) and ME3's ending failure.

Music-wise, I think all three are equal. They all have amazing soundtracks that other games lack.


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 I also agree here......

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Story, scope, and atmosphere goes to ME1. Kind of a ringer though because it was the first and a first. I hadn't experienced any other game like it before and none had drawn me in on an emotional level since the original Deus Ex. After ME1 the initial wow factor was reduced but expectation was higher.

For character development: ME2 (plus the outstanding LotSB DLC).

ME3 is hands-down winner for gameplay. Controls were vastly improved from previous games, the music was better, and two of the missions in ME3 were truly gripping and emotional to play (curing the Genophage and taking back Rannoch). I'm currently in the latter stages of a second ME3 playthrough (played it until just before the beam when it first came out and quit, refusing to proceed to star child and the ending). I installed the MEHEM ending and intend to play to the end but I restarted Rannoch twice because I love that one so much and cannot stop listening to the music. Love the music. Love the epic feel of it.

If they actually go with movies they absolutely CANNOT make it a mere trilogy without literally gutting the story drastically. Curing the genophage and taking back Rannoch are EACH a full movie. There's no way to do those stories justice in 10 or 15 minutes of movie time. Spending 30 minutes on each wouldn't do the actual stories justice.

I'll play again so I can do video captures of segments of the genophage and Rannoch segments. Outstanding.

LOVE the Citadel DLC too. I found it very challenging at insanity (and it is fitting that Shepard should be THE toughest boss you ever face in the game). The rest is funny and touching and simply enjoyable. Enjoyed the Omega DLC too but both DLCs were weak in RPG elements so that is the only detractor for me.

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KwangtungTiger wrote...

christrek1982 wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Mass Effect was and is my all time favourite game. The gameplay (dated as it may be) is my favourite, the Galaxy felt new and exciting and I actually ****ing loved the Mako.

ME2 and ME3 are tied, with ME2 maybe coming ahead a little bit due to it's character development (specifically of Garrus and Shepard himself) and ME3's ending failure.

Music-wise, I think all three are equal. They all have amazing soundtracks that other games lack.


yes this 100%^^


 I also agree here......


Well...the music has certainly matured since ME1.  Bioware clearly didn't plan it to be released as a soundtrack because virtually every bit of music from ME1 is made up of short snipets rather than coherent, full pieces.  Any music that is only a minute or two long is too short.  I had to string together various short segments of ME1 music with Audacity to get coherent and listenable music.

They improved their soundtrack releases with ME2 and even more with ME3 though they leave out some great music in those official releases.  You end up having to get them via youtube and sound conversion software.

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Game or movie soundracks always have short songs because they are made to order, to fit a very specific spot. That doesn't make them bad music. All the ME games have a great soundtrack, but claiming that 2nd or 3rd one are better than the first is just wrong. ME1 has by far the most atmospheric and instantly recognizable soundtrack of the trilogy. It is a pure work of art that fits the game perfectly.

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ME1 for story, and if you use texture mods it's as good as any.
ME2 had the best ending mission and DLC.
ME3 could have been the best of the three if it had a better ending

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Mass Effect 2. I just loved charging throught the Collector base with my whole team.

I'm disappointed something similar didn't happen with the retaking of London in 3. I mean, you've got the whole galaxy in one city, and you're there with only your squad of three people? When I've got the ground forces of the galaxy at my disposal they should be there.

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For me ME2>ME1>ME3

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Mass Effect 1. The game play is not as smooth as the later games, but the story works beautifully, the universe is engrossing and well thought out, and the characters are wonderful.

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For me it's ME3>ME1>ME2

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Out of all 3 huh...

Gameplay mechanics = ME3 (well not the press 1 button for everything was killed a few times because shep decided I wanted to crouch next to a wall fully exposed to enemy fire instead of running to cover closer to the enemies)

Story... honestly i look at it on a whole and give it a B good but all the retcon's added up IMO

Story progression. I like ME better as it was open world more than the rest... I mean the fact you can pick up Liara pretty much last, and get the whole "you know more about the Protheans than I do and ive spent 100 years studying them.

BUt I would say ME3 just because of the combat system. Much more fluid and fun I think.

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Senalda wrote...

Game or movie soundracks always have short songs because they are made to order, to fit a very specific spot. That doesn't make them bad music. All the ME games have a great soundtrack, but claiming that 2nd or 3rd one are better than the first is just wrong. ME1 has by far the most atmospheric and instantly recognizable soundtrack of the trilogy. It is a pure work of art that fits the game perfectly.


I personally dislike lots of synth music and prefer real instruments (or at least stuff that SOUNDS like real instruments), personal preference, and ME1 was THICK with synth that was clearly synth.  My other beef with the music in (mainly) 1 and 2 was the combat music didn't really fit.  I didn't actually pay much attention to it at the time of combat, usually too busy, but when I did it seemed misplaced.  The combat music didn't scream, "combat!" to me, it was too chipper for lack of a better description.  Combat or fight music should be more pounding, more adrenaline pumping.  There were spots in ME2 where it worked (the Long Walk music during the suicide mission in ME2 comes to mind as does the music in LotSB and Overlord DLC, more or less).  I did think ME3 scoring got it better than the other two.  I am particularly struck by the music for Mars and Rannoch.  Rannoch more than any other, hands down.  Rannoch strikes a solid good chord.

As for ME1 my main gripe was with the released soundtrack.  A soundtrack should be different than simply taking short snippets of music from a game and slapping it all together in an album and calling it done.  Some effort should be made to take related snippets and weave them together into a coherent piece of music.  My favorite snippet from ME1 is The Thorian but it is too damn short so I pieced together a longer version with Audacity.  In other words, I did the work THEY should have done when they released the soundtrack which is for listening to rather than just a short note associated with a trigger point in the game.  All Bioware did was take short music samples directly out of the game and convert them to mp3 or whatever.  A 40 second piece here, a 1 minute piece there.  Ugh.

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ContinentTurtle wrote...

Mass Effect 2. I just loved charging throught the Collector base with my whole team.

I'm disappointed something similar didn't happen with the retaking of London in 3. I mean, you've got the whole galaxy in one city, and you're there with only your squad of three people? When I've got the ground forces of the galaxy at my disposal they should be there.


I was thinking about that the other day.  I've wondered if the whole 3-man-squad thing is an organic limitation to the game engine or if it is a design decision.  I can certainly understand that 3 players may be all that can be handled properly by players wth more than that becoming unwieldy...perhaps if the game AI was better you could make squads bigger because they would behave in a more cohesive or coherent fashion (rather than standing their ground out of cover and getting themselves blown to crap again and again).  The only other way I could see what you suggest happening is if ground combat with your squad was broken up with cutscenes of larger battle around you so that you feel like a part of a much larger effort.  They did something pretty cool with the Citadel DLC in that regard.  It was cool to SORT OF have your ENTIRE unit with you, though you couldn't direct them and only caught glimpses here and there.  It WOULD be a nightmare to try and manually direct so many people and their tech or biotics wthout stopping combat constantly and for long pieriods while you direct this person to that tgt, etc.  Undoable. 

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ME1 is best for story. I agree game play it isn't as good as 2 or 3. Enjoyed searching the worlds in the Mako. Still enjoy starting a fresh Shepard with 1. Just give myself the super gun and ignore the combat to play the story.

ME2 I think is best rounded of the three. I don't have many complaints for 2

ME3 I liked a good deal of the game. Liked the darker atmosphere over 2. Combat was fun but at times that cover system drove me up a wall. Jumping into cover when I wasn't trying to. I expected better for the Priority Earth(weak), the ending(don't get me started) and was let down with it. Not how a game should end when there should have been more there. The ME3 trailer had more going on in regards to taking back Earth and was what I expected.

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Mass Effect 3.

Mass Effect 1's world, while brilliantly conceived, felt sterile. As other than half of the Normandy squad mates and sovereign, the character writing was wooden and relatively boring. Mass Effect 2 and 3 tried to make the people that inhabited the inverse interesting. Mass Effect 3 beats 2 because of the improved gameplay and cinematography.

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ME3>ME1>ME2

Story: ME1>ME2>ME3
Dialogue: ME3>ME1>ME2
Gameplay: ME3>ME2>>>>>ME1
Maps: ME3>ME2>>>>>ME1
Visuals: ME3>ME2>>>>>ME1
DLC: ME3>ME2>ME1
Supporting Cast: ME2>ME3>ME1
Villains: ME1>ME2>ME3
Music: ME3>ME1>ME2
Atmosphere: ME1>ME2>ME3
Opening: ME1>>>>>ME2>ME3
Final Mission: ME2>ME1>>>>>ME3
Ending: ME2>ME1>>>>>ME3

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Mass Effect 2. I'd have never gotten into Mass Effect were it not for this game; shame that practically everything about it was either retconned or tossed away.

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ME1 is just so nostalgic, and storywise, best game of the series. All the main storymissions were very well done, better than ME2 at least. ME2 was the worst(relatively) game of the series IMO.

ME3 is the best gameplaywise, and has the whole epic conlusion thing working in its favour of course.

I'd have to go with.... ME1. No! ME3! or ME1..... aaaargh.

ME1 remake with better combat etc > ME3 > ME1

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All three of them are equally good.

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Each Mass Effect has something better than the other : dialogue, story, characters, atmosphere, resolutions.
Saying Me3 is crap is quite the understatement. Replaying Me1 at the monet , i really love it!!! but at the same while the dialogue is superb i keep thinking my self how Me3 treats some other things OTHEr than the bad autodialogue and fact is that Me3 treats some things better, like characters and renegade choices.

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I might as well way in on this.

First, I'm going to say it outright. Mass Effect 2 is my favorite game of all time, much less my favorite in the series. Now let me explain why:

I agree with you all that ME1 has the best nostalgia to it. It was a fantastic game that first introduced us to the universe and made us care about it. I'm also going to say that it has the best story. The races, worlds, people, and Reapers are set up so perfectly in this game. Soverign is fantastic, Saren is twisted, and the main plot has that "godly air" to it, and to the mystery of the Reapers, that I think is taken from us in ME3. ME1 was the perfect setting up game. It made me want to play Mass Effect 2. But I think ME2 does much more.

ME2 does, yes, probablt have the weakest main plot to the series. But that's not what matters in ME2. What matters is the characters. It is easy to agree, at least I hope, that ME2 has the best character plots/interaction of the entire series. ME1 made me care about the the universe, but ME2 made me actually care about who is in it. It takes the characters, both old firends and new allies, and even new enemies, and puts you right up next to them and forces you to understand them. Every loyalty mission, every side converstaion, every meeting with the Illusive Man (major points coming from TIM, Martin Sheen was excellent) makes you care more and more about these people you're going to fight through hell with, and through that, you care infinately more about the universe.

Let's put it in terms of ME3:

I cared about curing the Genophage because I cared about Wrex, Mordin, and Grunt.

I cared about making peace on Rannoch because I cared about Tali and Legion.

I cared about saving Palaven because I cared about Garrus.

I cared about Thessia because I cared about Liara.

I cared about Earth because I cared about Shepard, Anderson, and all the humans.

I hated Kai Leng because he killed Thane.

And I hate having to pick Destroy because I cared about Legion, EDI, and Joker.
(Here's a good example: How easy would it have been to pick Destroy if it had taken place at the end of ME1, when you hated the Geth and EDI was a nonfactor?)

And I'm not saying that I don't care about anyone BUT these people in the universe, but I see the Krogans, Turians, Quarians, Salarians, Humans, Asari, Geth, and every other race through the figurehead character that represents each race. ME2 made me care about the galaxy because I cared about the people in it, not idealistic ideas about justice and what is right for the galaxy. The crew of the Normandy is the best the Galaxy has to offer for a reason, to put it like Javik, the "Avatars" of their race. And so yeah, while I *LOVE* ME3, I wouldn't have without ME2. And I wouldn't keep going back to play ME1 if it wasn't for ME2. Why do you think people cared so much about the endings and closure? Why do you think people loved Citadel? Why do you think that ME3 was voted the most anticipated game of the year?

Because we cared about it. Because we cared about the characters. 

So like I said. While ME1 made me want to play ME2, ME2 made me want to WIN ME3.

And just as a bonus. what do you think the best moment/mission in the series is?

For me, it's the Suicide Mission as a no-brainer. Or specifically, every time the Suicide Mission OST track plays.

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All three of them are Space Magic... sci-fi you want to come back to