Now that me3 is complete... Whats the best game in the trilogy?
#126
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 01:57
#127
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 01:57
ME2 - gameplay
ME3 - characters and gameplay
I always play all the way through so I can't really choose a favorite... but I always feel like I get the most gameplay in ME2 which is nice (Maybe because of all the character missions then loyalty missions). ME1 I love the story and characters but HATE the fighting style. So much that I usually play that on Casual or Normal just to get through the terrible fighting. ME3 I feel like they got the fighting/levelup system right and I liked having ME1 squadmates back, but wish I could have had more missions/assignments (They got lazy with those scanning missions).
#128
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 01:57
Yannkee wrote...
Mass Effect 2Good story,best characters, best music ..
Fixed for you.
#129
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:00
#130
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:00
Jadebaby wrote...
ME1 is the best for me. Anyone complaining about anything in the game being too "out-dated" is really just acting pretentious. Obviously it's going to be outdated now, but it's not about what game is the best at this moment, it's what game did you enjoy the most. That enjoyment stretches back 5 years.
Despite this, I am a gamer that can rarely go back and play old games because of the inferior graphics to today's standards amoung other things, however I can still play ME1 these days to my heart's content. That really speaks volumes to me.
ME2 is number 2.
And of course ME3 is like way down there.
ME1>ME2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ME3.
i liked mass effect 1 but every time I go back to start the trilogy again it feels like I have to force myself to do it, at this point I can play my laptops me1 when I'm not home because its the only game I have on it, and for me that keeps mass effect 1 from being the best, me2 was when I actually fell in love with the series but I don't think it's as good as 3 because it was more of a shooter with decisions rather than an rpg shooter like the other two, sure 3 definitely could have used a few months of polishing and a few other things but I think its the strongest because it constantly has that somber tone that 1 and 2 lack
#131
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:01
2. ME2 = good character interaction. literally no story at all.
3. ME3 = good game play. Story is worse than non-existing.
so ME1 > ME2 > ME3
in terms of game playing, it's the reverse order. I would play ME3 over ME1 any day once I know the story.
#132
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:05
Jadebaby wrote...
ME1 is the best for me. Anyone complaining about anything in the game being too "out-dated" is really just acting pretentious. Obviously it's going to be outdated now, but it's not about what game is the best at this moment, it's what game did you enjoy the most. That enjoyment stretches back 5 years.
And speaking as someone who just finished ME1 last night, it's outdated. So I enjoyed it the least. When it came out is irrelevant to which games I enjoyed the most.
#133
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:05
On a purely selfish level, I...honestly think I'd have to say ME3 was my favorite, even though the actual story is weak. Believe me, I could give a list of flaws a mile long. But I liked the more thematic feel of it, and now with all the DLC in place, it has some strong memories.
And not just of the game. I remember being on BSN at 4am, waiting for the guy who had gotten one of the space copies to datamine the game. I remember the outrage of the first few days. I remember all the campaigns and the drama. I wouldn't want to go back to it all, but ME3 in general just has a lot of memories attached to it. Its one of the few games I can talk about at length with people.
Art wise though, ME2 wins by far. I really don't like how a lot of the character models look in ME3, and to this day it still feels weird to me. Don't even get me started on my Shep's corpse hands.
#134
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:06
ME2 - atmosphere, design, ost., dialog and characters.
ME3 - best gameplay system, balanced between TPS/RPG.
In my opinion I still say ME2 is the best game of trilogy despite the plot didn't seem to
connected with main plot of trilogy.
Modifié par d-boy15, 09 mars 2013 - 02:07 .
#135
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:07
#136
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:09
There are some bits of ME1 and ME3 that are better, but overall, the ME2 package is the best-rounded/polished of the trilogy. IMO.
#137
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:13
tobynator89 wrote...
'Kloborgg711 wrote...
tobynator89 wrote...
As far as wringing emotions out of me (which is my main quality factor in a bioware game) I'll have to say ME3>ME2>ME1
But wouldn't you say that as a standalone game the emotions you feel in ME3 would fall flat? Would Mordin's tearjearking goodbye really mean anything if you hadn't established who he was in ME2? Whereas I think even if you remove the other two, Mass Effect 2's emotional scenes still hold about as much weight behind them. I think some of the best moments in ME3 are really just milking the emotions we already had from ME2.
Of course they do, that is what a continuous story does, it builds upon already established characters. that doesn't demerit mass effects 3s accomplishments in any way though. Mass effect 2 also only did what it did because of the strong way they established the setting in Mass effect 1.
For me the mass effect trilogy works like this:
Mass effect 1: Establish setting and some characters
Mass effect 2: Expand upon the characters
Mass effect 3: Push said character and universe to the breaking point.
What I loved about Mass effect 1 was that the universe kept giving me this sense of wonder at discovering new details about it and how it used the story and gameplay to do so. the great eakness however was that it wasn't particularly strong in establishing the characters on anything else than a very basic level.
Mass effect 2 on the other hand was a true joyride in regards to story and character, it was definitly a more lighthearted character drama.
Mass effect 3 however is more of a tragedy as opposed to ME2s more optimistic feel, something I think people still find hard to accept and there is no other genre than tragedy that can truly wring out emotions.
as a tragedy there is no denying that Mass effect 3 works VERY effectively.
Nah. ME3 was out of place. People kept saying about ME3 that "of course it had to end badly for Shepard because the entire story is dark, blah blah". Nonsense. ME1 and ME2 demonstrate EXACTLY the opposite. ME1 ends with Shepard seemingly dead and buried under rubble. Nope, he emerges and limps back to the gang with a smile. Victory! ME2, Shepard rolls through a "suicide mission" unscathed. Victory. No sign of doom anywhere to be seen. You cannot even LOSE ME2 because ME3 comes along and you are Shepard again so if you actually killed your Shepard in ME2 through intentional stupidity, you get your stupidity wiped away with Shepard in ME3. There was nothing in the series at all that suggest the end of ME3 must (just MUST) be doom no matter what. The opposite in fact. ME3 then pointlessly, illogically, and gratuitiously flies in the face of the previous two games for a cheap (and failed) attempt to wring "emotion" out of players. Oh yeah, they wrung some emotion out but it was outrage instead of what they foolishly thought they'd bring. Outrage because ME3 was WAY out of place (and poorly designed, story-wise) in the story. It was a just-in-time ending patched onto the game that unnecessarily deemed a trilogy at all costs. BW COULD have made the ME universe last for a long time, developing characters and relationships with Shepard but they tossed it away to kill the universe in 3 games. Then they think they will just come back and continue as if nothing changed and as if the story had coherence and logic to it. Uh uh.
They are going to aim at the lightweight no-mental effort crowd of MP players and toss out those interested in story, in character development, in RPG. They assassinated their ME universe but insist on keeping the corpse alive via artificial means.
#138
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:15
d-boy15 wrote...
ME1 - good script and story.
ME2 - atmosphere, design, ost., dialog and characters.
ME3 - best gameplay system, balanced between TPS/RPG.
In my opinion I still say ME2 is the best game of trilogy despite the plot didn't seem to
connected with main plot of trilogy.
Sure. ME2 atmosphere, dialog, character development, ME3 gameplay, and ME1-like story would be the perfect game.
ME2 was a side mission story expanded into a full game. A diversion. It was also an attempt to retcon Cerberus, rendering ALL the encounters with Cerberus from ME1 into a long list of "rogue" Cerberus operations. Funny, a rogue terrorist organization filled with nothing BUT further rogue elements from itself.
#139
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:29
EnvyTB075 wrote...
Jadebaby wrote...
EnvyTB075 wrote...
Mass Effect 2. Its not its fault that ME3 had absolutely nothing to do with it, its ME3's fault.
Actually, it was EAware's fault for restructuring and putting Drew onto the SWTOR team, the fact that he left very shortly after just goes to show how much he didn't want to leave his precious.
Casey/Mac's decision to go the 'different ending' route, wasn't because it was too hard, but probably because it was Drew's idea. And when he left, so did his idea. Wish they could've/would've kept it. And least it was foreshadowed. Damn they really screwed up that ending, over a year now and I still can't believe it.
Worst.ending.ever.
....thats my point. Its not ME2's fault ME3 had nothing to do with it.
I don't think you understand how plot progression works in certain trilogies. It is ME2's fault because it departed from the plot set up in ME1. ME1 sets up a continuous trilogy, not an episodic one.
The number of people here that don't unstand how stories work boggles my mind.
#140
Guest_1andonly_*
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 02:54
Guest_1andonly_*
ME1 has an amazing storyline, but the gameplay (especially playing it for the first time after playing ME2) took a bit of the enjoyment away for me. I still love it, though.
So for me it's ME2>ME3>ME1.
#141
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 03:01
SuperMegaWolf wrote...
I don't think you understand how plot progression works in certain trilogies. It is ME2's fault because it departed from the plot set up in ME1. ME1 sets up a continuous trilogy, not an episodic one.
The number of people here that don't unstand how stories work boggles my mind.
I don't think you understand what my point was in relation to recent complaints of ME2 being unrelated to EITHER game, and how it is not ME2's fault that ME3 failed to capitalise on the Dark Energy set up.
The number of people who fail to comprehend very basic statements boggles my mind.
#142
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 03:05
ME3 would have probably tied had this last DLC been part of the game out of the box instead of just a cash grab.
#143
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 03:14
EnvyTB075 wrote...
SuperMegaWolf wrote...
I don't think you understand how plot progression works in certain trilogies. It is ME2's fault because it departed from the plot set up in ME1. ME1 sets up a continuous trilogy, not an episodic one.
The number of people here that don't unstand how stories work boggles my mind.
I don't think you understand what my point was in relation to recent complaints of ME2 being unrelated to EITHER game, and how it is not ME2's fault that ME3 failed to capitalise on the Dark Energy set up.
The number of people who fail to comprehend very basic statements boggles my mind.
ME2 has 1 blip about dark energy at the very beginning of the game. If they were going to bring it to the forefront it would have had to have more focus in ME2.
So, once again, on all accounts it is ME2's fault for not towing the line. ME2 is a terrible middle act for the trilogy.
#144
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 03:26
Seriously though, I know the combat is a LOT better in ME3 but, as an RPG fan who values story above all else, it's not even close. ME1 by a long way.
#145
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 03:27
ME3 was the most improved gameplay and graphics wise, but ME2 was still the overall best of the trilogy.
If they had of made ME2 like ME1, no one would have bought 3.
#146
Posté 09 mars 2013 - 03:34
Kastrenzo wrote...
ME2 and ME3 were both good, but ME2 Had signifigantly less controversey and overall pleased people more.
ME3 was the most improved gameplay and graphics wise, but ME2 was still the overall best of the trilogy.
If they had of made ME2 like ME1, no one would have bought 3.
That may be true because of the improved gameplay but the story direction they took in ME2 is what ruined the trilogy's story ark.
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