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[JesseLee202]

Both adoption and having children are equally special. I just find it slightly annoying the OP is deluding himself into thinking that Dextro/Levo children is possible...

I would like OP to answer this, why not adopt an orphaned Quarian child? Why not Jona? Both his parents are dead. I'm sure Tali and Shepard would love to care for him as if he was their own.

[BioWareM0d13]

Liara's children would be 100% Asari and not hybrids.

Tali would be physically incapable of having children with Shepard. Two wholly unrelated species cannot mate.

Hybrids that you see on Earth (like ligers or mules) are possible only because the two species used to create those hybrids, are closely related. In the case of the liger, lions and tigers both evolved from a single species (now extinct) called the cave lion. The same is true for horses and donkeys, which are used to create mules. They share a relatively recent common genetic ancestor. There would be no common genetic ancestor between humans, who evolved on Earth, and Quarians, who evolved in a completely alien biosphere on Rannoch and have no relation whatsoever to life on Earth.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 09 mars 2013 - 06:59 .

[LegionofRannoch]

JesseLee202 wrote...

Both adoption and having children are equally special. I just find it slightly annoying the OP is deluding himself into thinking that Dextro/Levo children is possible...

I would like OP to answer this, why not adopt an orphaned Quarian child? Why not Jona? Both his parents are dead. I'm sure Tali and Shepard would love to care for him as if he was their own.

i was thinking exactly this too...but doesnt he have an uncle to take care of him?..

[JesseLee202]

Hmmm, can't remember, been a while to be honest.

Still, plenty of other Quarian or human children out there with no parents...

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Having a blood child with Tali (Getting her pregnant with your child) is like having sex with a bird.

Do you think a perfectly fine baby will pop out if you have sex with a bird? Not, in fact the egg will not even react.

[hljhodr_sunda]

I could see an Asari who's mother is Liara being in the next ME. I could also see that child having Shep's DNA whether you romanced Liara or not. She wouldn't be a playable character whatsoever. Maybe a squadie... But I would put money on just a regular NPC that you run into. Maybe a convo where she talks about not knowing much about her father, only that they saved the galaxy from the reapers. Maybe... she could be a Justicar or Spectre... Who knows. But I doubt we will actually see much of any nod to this trilogy in the next ME. There will be a nod... But the next ME well have a lot of it's own story to tell. So don't expect much from this trilogy to be included.

[gisle]

I don't see Liara as the mother either. No one anticipated the exact details of end of the game. Liara impregnating herself for the sake of securing a child would be very, very meta. Without further proof, assume she is an honest person who would tell Shepard before making him or her a father. Also, we must remember that she is a young maiden, and yes, it might make sense for asari away from their population to reproduce at a faster rate to ensure their species survival, but not before the war is over. Yes, I think any asari at least past 40 should be able to give birth since Ardat-Yakshi manifests with maturity and Falere was locked for it away at that age.

Modifié par Gisle-Aune, 09 mars 2013 - 08:55 .

[BioWareM0d13]

Gisle-Aune wrote...

I don't see Liara as the mother either. No one anticipated the exact details of end of the game. Liara impregnating herself for the sake of securing a child would be very, very meta. Without further proof, assume she is an honest person who would tell Shepard before making him or her a father. Also, we must remember that she is a young maiden, and yes, it might make sense for asari away from their population to reproduce at a faster rate to ensure their species survival, but not before the war is over. Yes, I think any asari at least past 40 should be able to give birth since Ardat-Yakshi manifests with maturity and Falere was locked for it away at that age.

I agree.

The farewell scene with Liara was nothing more than what it was described as: a way to for an Asari to say farewell to lovers, close friends, or family. It wasn't sexual, and no blue babies were created.

[hljhodr_sunda]

I was only starting I could see it. She melded minds with Shep before that in ME1. I thought Asari could store memories of sometimes genes or something similar. It doesn't mean that impregnating herself was the goal. But if she had Shep's DNA stored within her mind... and Asari reproduce with individuals to grow their species... Why wouldn't she use Shep's genes for a child? He/she would make for a suitable "father" due to his accomplishments. Not saying I'm all about blue babies... But think using "Asari" logic. I could be way wrong though.

I'm only saying, if Liara had Shep's DNA stored.... Why WOULDN'T she use such an excellent specimen of humanity to create a child? That might sound wierd... But I don't see why she wouldn't.

[hljhodr_sunda]

... I hate posting on mobile... I have to stare at my autocorrect issues and not be able to edit

[Demonique]

Why wouldn't Liara use Shepard's genes to conceive a child?

Maybe because she didn't have Shepard's consent to do so? My Shepard didn't romance Liara, she didn't give her consent to Liara to conceive a child, ergo Liara would be stealing Shepard's DNA. I hope BW doesn't have Liara have Shepard's child, as there are quite a number of people in the fandom that consider this to be rape

[Wynterdust]

Liara a rapist... that would be an interesting plot twist lol! It's always the quiet ones...

But in seriousness, as... adorable as the idea sounds, I don't think baby Shepards/baby Tali's/loveable adopted quarians, turians, krogan or hanar are the answer for the next game personally.

[MEGoWH777]

I could see a blood baby, between shepard and Tali as possible, But not through sex.
Kinda like a really expensive test tube baby, by treating shepards sperm, to be compatible with a quarian's egg, whilst retaining shepards genes.

[thepringle]

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Having a blood child with Tali (Getting her pregnant with your child) is like having sex with a bird.

Do you think a perfectly fine baby will pop out if you have sex with a bird? Not, in fact the egg will not even react.

That analogy is closer to what it would be like if you expected to have a Turian/Human hybrid.

Since Quarians are evolved from apes, like Humans, a more exact analogy would be:
"Do you think a perfectly fine baby will pop out if you had sex with a Neanderthal?" (not meant to imply that Quarians are lesser than Humans)

Meaning that it would be "possible" if not for various physiological differences, as well as opposing Amino-acid.

Still not a perfect analogy, but... Yeah.

 

Modifié par thepringle, 09 mars 2013 - 02:42 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

MEGoWH777 wrote...

I could see a blood baby, between shepard and Tali as possible, But not through sex.
Kinda like a really expensive test tube baby, by treating shepards sperm, to be compatible with a quarian's egg, whilst retaining shepards genes.

Random Jerkface wrote...

"Human/quarian hybrid"?



You motherf*ckers don't know science.

[MEGoWH777]

thepringle wrote...

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Having a blood child with Tali (Getting her pregnant with your child) is like having sex with a bird.

Do you think a perfectly fine baby will pop out if you have sex with a bird? Not, in fact the egg will not even react.

That analogy is closer to what it would be like if you expected to have a Turian/Human hybrid.

Since Quarians are evolved from apes, like Humans, a more exact analogy would be:
"Do you think a perfectly fine baby will pop out if you had sex with a Neanderthal?" (not meant to imply that Quarians are lesser than Humans)

Meaning that it would be "possible" if not for various physiological differences, as well as opposing Amino-acid.

Still not a perfect analogy, but... Yeah.

 

Actually, Humans could breed with neanderthals, which is why neanderthals died out instead of evolving.
Neanderthals shared our genus (they were ****** neanderthalensis) Quarians do not.

[MEGoWH777]

Random Jerkface wrote...

MEGoWH777 wrote...

I could see a blood baby, between shepard and Tali as possible, But not through sex.
Kinda like a really expensive test tube baby, by treating shepards sperm, to be compatible with a quarian's egg, whilst retaining shepards genes.

Random Jerkface wrote...

"Human/quarian hybrid"?



You motherf*ckers don't know science.

Hey it's Sci-fi, it's not like a Human/Qurian hybrid would be the strangest thing in the universe, especialy with the physical similaritie between them (except the horse legs) So long as you could copy shepards genes into something that could fertalise the egg, it would be shepards blood baby.

[JesseLee202]

MEGoWH777 wrote...

Actually, Humans could breed with neanderthals, which is why neanderthals died out instead of evolving.
Neanderthals shared our genus (they were ****** neanderthalensis) Quarians do not.

I was actually just going to reply to that. 

I don't even think analogies are even needed in this argument...

[What a Succulent Ass]

MEGoWH777 wrote...

Hey it's Sci-fi, it's not like a Human/Qurian hybrid would be the strangest thing in the universe, especialy with the physical similaritie between them (except the horse legs) So long as you could copy shepards genes into something that could fertalise the egg, it would be shepards blood baby.

Science-fiction.

I don't want to go into a whole genetics thing with you, but physical similarity is not genetic similarity. At all. And any permutation of in vitro manipulation, SCNT, or transgenesis would absolutely fail.

[thepringle]

MEGoWH777 wrote...

thepringle wrote...

ZeCollectorDestroya wrote...

Having a blood child with Tali (Getting her pregnant with your child) is like having sex with a bird.

Do you think a perfectly fine baby will pop out if you have sex with a bird? Not, in fact the egg will not even react.

That analogy is closer to what it would be like if you expected to have a Turian/Human hybrid.

Since Quarians are evolved from apes, like Humans, a more exact analogy would be:
"Do you think a perfectly fine baby will pop out if you had sex with a Neanderthal?" (not meant to imply that Quarians are lesser than Humans)

Meaning that it would be "possible" if not for various physiological differences, as well as opposing Amino-acid.

Still not a perfect analogy, but... Yeah.

 

Actually, Humans could breed with neanderthals, which is why neanderthals died out instead of evolving.
Neanderthals shared our genus (they were ****** neanderthalensis) Quarians do not.

Yeah...
I realized that just a few seconds after I posted this, still trying to find another analogy 

[thepringle]

JesseLee202 wrote...

MEGoWH777 wrote...

Actually, Humans could breed with neanderthals, which is why neanderthals died out instead of evolving.
Neanderthals shared our genus (they were ****** neanderthalensis) Quarians do not.

I was actually just going to reply to that. 

I don't even think analogies are even needed in this argument...

Yeah, you're probably right about that 

[Kitahree]

If you want to science fiction it, have Shepard turn to the Salarians to genetically modify her/his own DNA after the war -- if Shepard survived. If anyone can do something like that, it'd be the Salarians. Mind you, the likelihood of success would be slim in hybridization and the production of a child, but that 30% chance could still be viable if enough genetic manipulation was done. Shepard might not look much like Shepard, though.

[hljhodr_sunda]

Lol again. Asari logic and morality may not fall to same decision making as human. So, what we would consider "rape", Asari might just consider it a logical decision. She could possibly do so without consent. Even if you romance her, you don't technically give consent for her to have your child. Granted, I guess you could consider it implied... But there was no "have my babies, Liara". Shoot, even Sha'ira could technically have a Shep baby (pending she is still alive) or any other Asari Shep melded minds with.

All I'm saying is, it's possible. Probable? Eh... Don't know, don't care. But if something like this were to happen in an ME game post-reaper war, I wouldn't be surprised. It would be a way of preserving Shep... sort of. An NPC is an NPC...

[Only-Twin]

Scientifically not possible, but as someone said before, both of Jona's parents were killed. Adopting a quarian child like him would be just as good. I'm sure there are plenty of orphaned children after the war with the geth.