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[ConanTheLeader]

A popular mod for Mass Effect 3 is the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod (MEHEM). The creation of this mod is based on a fan's disagreement of the ending and set out to fix it, a lot of other fans like this mod and choose to use it as their true ending. Totally fine. However the name would imply it serves the purpose of a happy ending, as if there was not a happy ending. And that irks me because while disliking the current ending is fine, I think most gamers are unrealistic about what would be a happy ending to this war.

I personally feel that the destroy ending with the breath scene is the good ending. Why?

Well, in it we see a damaged citadel and relay, following Hackett's speach about rebuilding we see the citadel with open wards floating above Earth with no damage whatsoever. Hacket even describes the condition of the relays as "damaged" which is different from destroyed, it implies it is not beyond being fixed.

We see images of Quarians relaxing in a city and Krogan raising families, we even see Krogan's going through a new cultural period that was mentioned earlier in the Priority: Tuchanka mission as evidenced by the image of them building new temples. Finally the ending show me Shepherd regain consciousness. I assume on the Citadel, much like how he survived a chunk of Sovereign crashing into him at the end of the first game.

Then there is the factor of destroying all synthetic life. Well, is EDI synthetic? No. She is an AI that took control of a synthetic called EVA. EVA got destroyed, I assume EDI is intact on Normandy and the same probably goes for the geth, they can seperate their AI from their physical body by uploading to the server. Provided one Geth did that at the time of the destroy ending, I'd assume the Quarians could help them rebuild their physical self.

Everyone seems to get a happy ending and that while the MEHEM is welcome, I do not share the opinion that it is needed to have a happy ending.

Modifié par ConanTheLeader, 09 mars 2013 - 11:06 .

[shin-zan]

ConanTheLeader wrote...

I personally feel that the control ending with the breath scene is the good ending. Why?

Did you mean Destroy? You don't get a breath scene with Control.

[AlanC9]

That's the great thing about mods. They're not necessary.

[ConanTheLeader]

shin-zan wrote...

ConanTheLeader wrote...

I personally feel that the control ending with the breath scene is the good ending. Why?

Did you mean Destroy? You don't get a breath scene with Control.

Oh damn, yes I do mean destroy. I am getting confuzzled.

[Nelatherion]

People just wanted to see Shepard having a reunion with his/her love interest. Because apparently everyone needs a Disney fairy tail ending otherwise it is a terrible ending.

[Mr.House]

Sorry, but spending around hours in ME3 trying to get the geth and quarians to get along, just to find out I need to kill all the geth because reasons is bullcrap. There's a difference between sacrifices and bittersweet endings and just throwing in contrived bullcrap that undoes choices, arcs and other character sacrifices.

I'll stick with MEHEM, which is bittersweet.

Nelatherion wrote...

People just wanted to see Shepard
having a reunion with his/her love interest. Because apparently everyone
needs a Disney fairy tail ending otherwise it is a terrible ending.

*facepalm*

Modifié par Mr.House, 09 mars 2013 - 11:07 .

[Animositisomina]

Nelatherion wrote...

Because apparently everyone needs a Disney fairy tail ending otherwise it is a terrible ending.

And yet Spartacus is considered a classic. (the 1960 film version directed by Kubrick)

Modifié par Animositisomina, 09 mars 2013 - 11:09 .

[hexediter]

Edi's name is on the memorial wall if you pick destroy, she is dead, for those of you who ever thought she was alive in the first place.

[Soul Tumor]

I just want closure for destroy. Is it so hard to show Shepard getting pulled out of the rubble? Don't get me wrong, I don't feel every story has to have a happy ending, but when a game that boasts about the choices it allows the player to make and letting you shape your story, to not even offer a happy ending just strikes me as odd. If Mass Effect had been a purely linear story, with no way to choose anything, I think I would have been happy with control as the end of the story.

[ConanTheLeader]

Nelatherion wrote...

People just wanted to see Shepard having a reunion with his/her love interest. Because apparently everyone needs a Disney fairy tail ending otherwise it is a terrible ending.

Good point, and had Bioware gone and done that, the tone would have felt out of place with the more serious nature of the rest of the game.Shepherd lives in the end, we can assume what happens next without needing our imagination being hand held the whole time.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Nelatherion wrote...

People just wanted to see Shepard having a reunion with his/her love interest. Because apparently everyone needs a Disney fairy tail ending otherwise it is a terrible ending.

*goes into blood rage* *head butt* Bull crap!

It is pretty well known that the "breath scene" was not originally the intended final ending for the High EMS Destroy ending. It was supposed to be a lot more optimistic than that on New Game+, but Super Mac had a cow about it. It was still supposed to be a cliff hanger, maybe someone grabbing Shepard's arm and cutting it there. It was supposed to be a definite Shepard survives.

And why not a reunion. Even Marcus Fenix, that ugly mug, got to hold hands with Anya at the end of Gears 3 FFS. Was Gears 3 a "Disney Fairy Tale Ending?" BTW tails are on animals. Tales are stories.

[Ticonderoga117]

Because everything dealing with "The Catalyst" is damaging to the plot as a whole in a critical way.

[chemiclord]

While I do not particularly like what the MEHEM stands for, and how it thumbs its nose at the content creators intent... at this point, I'm content to let people have it if it helps them move on. We REALLY don't need to keep going at each others throats about the ending.

Let the poor dog sleep.

Modifié par chemiclord, 09 mars 2013 - 11:19 .

[Obadiah]

Are you telling me no one can just change that cinematic to a breath scene with a voice-over saying, "We've located Shepard, and we've got life signs," to give a happier hippier ending?

[mumba]

Original destroy ending > EC destroy ending.

[chemiclord]

Obadiah wrote...

Are you telling me no one can just change that cinematic to a breath scene with a voice-over saying, "We've located Shepard, and we've got life signs," to give a happier hippier ending?

Well, now I ask you... would that REALLY have been enough to sate the rage?

I honestly don't think so.

[AlphaDormante]

EDI and the geth being alive and Shepard being reunited with his/her crew is nice about MEHEM, sure.

But I used it mainly to get rid of Starchild. Get that thing out of my face and I'm perfectly happy with the EC Destroy ending.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 09 mars 2013 - 11:24 .

[Dr_Extrem]

@ op ..

just call it "mass effect happier ending mod" if the name bugs you.

its still not a really happy ending. (galaxy lies in ashes, network destroyed, no chance of rebuilding anytime soon - billions dead, planets are wastelands, infrastructure destroyed).

its possitive aspect is, that it does not generate an artificial conflict, i dont have to stand the boring dialogue with the crucible is what it is supposed to be - space microphone and reaper off switch.

on the "disney ending"-bs ... did you know, that "tron" and "the black hole" are in fact disney movies?

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 09 mars 2013 - 11:28 .

[ConanTheLeader]

Obadiah wrote...

Are you telling me no one can just change that cinematic to a breath scene with a voice-over saying, "We've located Shepard, and we've got life signs," to give a happier hippier ending?

I think that would ruin the atmosphere and tone. We do not need that because science tells us that dead people do not all of a sudden take a deep breath like that, so that breath is all we need, it is subtle yet clear.

[ruggly]

As far as I can tell, nobody is forcing you to use it. If you're happy with the way things are, then fine.

[Teddie Sage]

MEHEM isn't a Disney ending, far from it.

[Astartes Marine]

Doesn't that mod remove the Catalyst AI's bits in the plot?  As far as I'm concerned it's perfectly good in my books if it kicks that little **** to the curb.

chemiclord wrote...
While I do not particularly like what the MEHEM stands for, and how it thumbs its nose at the content creators intent..

With how the plot fizzled out in my opinion they and their EA overlords deserved a bit of nose thumbing. 

[TheProtheans]

By no means is destroy a "good" ending, you just see it as a good ending because other two endings are godawful.

Modifié par TheProtheans, 09 mars 2013 - 11:34 .

[Legbiter]

What I respect about the MEHEM mod is that it cuts out the Catalyst completely.

Also, if they want a mod with rainbows, pink unicorns & creepy helmeted babies on Rannoch, hey be my guest.

[TheImmortalBeaver]

I'll admit that I'm quite conflicted myself. On one hand, I'd enjoy the heck out of a happier ending. On the other hand, modifying the game files to use a fan fiction ending feels like cheating. On the other hand, if it's better written, then who cares? On the other hand, it isn't really any better written. It still has the massive plot hole of "Wait, what exactly was that glowy pulse again?" On the other hand, more dialogue from Harbinger. On the other hand, a happier ending conflicts with the tone of the rest of the game and feels off to me.

I could go on like that for a while.