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What are the chances of Sten from Origins returning?


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They're Canon if they line up with the events of your save in some way, Sten becomes Arishok as long as he survives in origins.


You can't actually kill Sten. All you can do is leave him in a cage, where the codex updates to say he "most likely died".

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Sten can never die in DAO so he can come back pretty easily.

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If Sten were to return. What would others like to see? Would they like to see his appearance tie into the comic or not?

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Reidbynature wrote...

It's not a retcon just because some people played that outcome instead of another.  It wasn't set in place meaning it had no canon decision.  Now it does.  That's different from a retcon (unless you count headcanon as actual canon).

Also in regards to comics and books mention earlier.  The comics and books are not canon because they line up with some playthroughs.  If they're canon it's because the developers say they are and that future games will take note of what goes on in them and incorporate them into future games.


Having Alistair dead in DAO, and when importing in DA3 you'll have him alive and King is in no way anything else than a retcon, unless DA3 will not have an import feature and there'll be a single storyline to follow, in which Alistair is the king. Headcanon would be believing that my female Cousland continues to rule Ferelden with Alistair even though in DA2 it's said that the Warden disappeared. Events that are shown on-screen are canon, and Bioware said so in regards of Anders's death in DA2. They could change it, if the events allow such freedom (for example, they could make in DA3, in the case that Alistair was exiled, that when he returned to Ferelden Anora died and he become king), but if a NPC, died, he should stay dead. Again, Gaider said that. They could change their thinking, but as far as we know, this will be their stance on the matter,
About the comics, the developers said clearly, more than once, that those events will happened as it was shown in the comics if the choices in the games are the same of the ones in the comics. Otherwise, the events will be different, or not happened at all. This was said by Gaider himself.

Modifié par hhh89, 11 mars 2013 - 11:53 .


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Every decision can't be canon. That sounds more like no canon at all and just leaving every decision valid.

Like I said about the comics. If they are it's because Bioware said so, not because they line up with one of my playthroughs.

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Reidbynature wrote...

Every decision can't be canon. That sounds more like no canon at all and just leaving every decision valid.

Like I said about the comics. If they are it's because Bioware said so, not because they line up with one of my playthroughs.

Indeed, Bioware never said that there was a Canon story for DA. Every decision made on-screen are valid. Some people want that Bioware scraps the import and makes a canon plot for every games, but this is another topic.
About the comics, they're not Canon. The events happen as of was shown in the comics if it fits the choices you made in the games. Otherwise they'll happen in a different way, or they'll not happen at all. This is what Bioware said about this topic.
i should've used valid instead of canon when talking about the decision in the games.

Modifié par hhh89, 11 mars 2013 - 12:13 .


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Fair enough.

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The chances of Sten returning in DA3?

10%.

The chances of Sten returning in any future DA game?

100%.

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Jimmy, sometimes it rains heavy when there is only a 10% chance of rain too so our chances arent too bad lol

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Reidbynature

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10% chance of heavy Sten? He must really love those cookies.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

The chances of Sten returning in DA3?

10%.

The chances of Sten returning in any future DA game?

100%.

Thank you for using Fast Jimmy's DA Event Forecaster. Please buy the full version for even more predictions!


:lol:  I love Sten's character. He really irritated me at first, but is now one of my favorites, once I understood how to talk to him. Of course he was given the 'the cake is a lie' line too, which was so funny. The cookies thing was priceless. SPOILER: Yeah, the comic says he's now Arishok, and has gone off with Alistair to find Titus. I hope we get to learn more about all of that in DA3.

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hhh89 wrote...

Reidbynature wrote...

It's not a retcon just because some people played that outcome instead of another.  It wasn't set in place meaning it had no canon decision.  Now it does.  That's different from a retcon (unless you count headcanon as actual canon).

Also in regards to comics and books mention earlier.  The comics and books are not canon because they line up with some playthroughs.  If they're canon it's because the developers say they are and that future games will take note of what goes on in them and incorporate them into future games.


Having Alistair dead in DAO, and when importing in DA3 you'll have him alive and King is in no way anything else than a retcon, unless DA3 will not have an import feature and there'll be a single storyline to follow, in which Alistair is the king. Headcanon would be believing that my female Cousland continues to rule Ferelden with Alistair even though in DA2 it's said that the Warden disappeared. Events that are shown on-screen are canon, and Bioware said so in regards of Anders's death in DA2. They could change it, if the events allow such freedom (for example, they could make in DA3, in the case that Alistair was exiled, that when he returned to Ferelden Anora died and he become king), but if a NPC, died, he should stay dead. Again, Gaider said that. They could change their thinking, but as far as we know, this will be their stance on the matter,
About the comics, the developers said clearly, more than once, that those events will happened as it was shown in the comics if the choices in the games are the same of the ones in the comics. Otherwise, the events will be different, or not happened at all. This was said by Gaider himself.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that there were some bugs with the importer; some of the apparent retcons could just be glitches...

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^

More reason to expect a choice checklist, rather than a file that is imported.

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I highly doubt Sten will be in DA3 but....

Fast Jimmy wrote...

The chances of Sten returning in DA3?

10%.

The chances of Sten returning in any future DA game?

100%.

Thank you for using Fast Jimmy's DA Event Forecaster. Please buy the full version for even more predictions!


How much is the full version? :o

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Sten: No. Er wait, yes. I'm just so used to saying no...

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Reidbynature wrote...

 I'm just wondering.  What are the chances of seeing Sten in DA3?


Now *that* is a cameo I would love to have happen DA3. Arishok-formerly-known-as-Sten is the bees knees.

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Please Tell Me Sten Returns Bioware!!!!

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With all this heavy forecasting of at least partly sunny skies with a good chance of a Sten-filled weekend, I'll need to stock up on cookies and twine (cats gotta train, yo).

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 11 mars 2013 - 04:09 .


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BouncyFrag wrote...

With all this heavy forecasting of at least partly sunny skies with a good chance of a Sten-filled weekend, I'll need to stock up on cookies and twine (cats gotta train, yo).


:P

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My Warden left him in the cage back in Lothering. But if you don't see someone die, you don't really know what happened to them.

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theres every chance an theres also zero chance, you pick

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I t depends heavily on what part the qunari are expected to play in this game. Right now? probably not big. And there will be a while, since they played sucha big part in DA2.

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HE GOTTA BE!

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If he returns I demand a 3 minute cut-scene of him battle crying, pommel striking, yelling 'you battle a Qunari', and stealing cookies from fat, slovenly children. Not necessarily in that order, mind you.