My impression of this DLC.. I really liked it. it had what I expected, nothing more nothing less. It showed us Ostagar in ruins a bunch of darkspawns, new weapons and armor plus a minor boss battle with the ogre at the end.
The thing that bothers me a little about these DLC's is that after you visit the place there's no reason to go there again. And after you've beaten the game a couple of times got every good weapon there is these darkspawn's in Ostagar was way easy to kill even on nightmare. This made it even shorter.. What I would have liked is to see is tougher opponents based on your level and perhaps an elf merchant or something when finishing the quest selling some elf roots (Can't buy these after you beat the game) and perhaps some runes. giving you a reason to return.
-Note to everybody about the armor being red steel. Sell it to the traders in warden's keep, go to camp - save the game, exit and resume the game. Go back and re-buy the armor. It'll now be dragonbone the merchant will have upgraded it based on your level.
Return To Ostagar Impressions and Discussion. (spoilers.....Duh!)
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#52
Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:47
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For those wondering:
(spoilers obviously)
Duncan's Dagger (tier 7) - dagger, req. 30 dex
DMG 6.40
Crit. chance 4.80%
Armor penetration: 8
Str. Modifier: 0.85
+4 DEX
+10% crit/backstab damage
+10 damage vs dragons
3 rune slots
Duncan's Sword (tier 6) - longsword, req. 27 str
DMG 10.50
Crit chance 3%
Armor penetration: 3.50
STR modifier: 1
+3 willpower
+3 cunning
+4 stamina regeneration in combat
+4 dmg vs. darkspawn
2 rune slots
King's armor was Red Steel, Xbox360 version.
Best weapon name - Nug Crusher lol. I think I'll give that to Oghren.
Fun dlc, worth the money imo!
(spoilers obviously)
Duncan's Dagger (tier 7) - dagger, req. 30 dex
DMG 6.40
Crit. chance 4.80%
Armor penetration: 8
Str. Modifier: 0.85
+4 DEX
+10% crit/backstab damage
+10 damage vs dragons
3 rune slots
Duncan's Sword (tier 6) - longsword, req. 27 str
DMG 10.50
Crit chance 3%
Armor penetration: 3.50
STR modifier: 1
+3 willpower
+3 cunning
+4 stamina regeneration in combat
+4 dmg vs. darkspawn
2 rune slots
King's armor was Red Steel, Xbox360 version.
Best weapon name - Nug Crusher lol. I think I'll give that to Oghren.
Fun dlc, worth the money imo!
#53
Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:52
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I was wonder the same thing...Operative84 wrote...
Blee4389 wrote...
How did all the cailin's items and the blade go scale up to dragon bone, I beat it with my character that beaten the game, and its just red steel?Ulicus wrote...
How long does the DLC take to finish?
It took me less than an hour on Nightmare BUT I was using my epilogue AW/BM alongside a very strong party.
Thankfully, I've just checked via the party chest and Cailan's items, and Maric's blade, all scale up to dragonbone!
Still, I'm sad to see the item description for Maric's blade has changed because the reference to Katriel was a lovely touch.
Yeah the red steel is just sad, also didnt understand where his big ass 2H sword went?
It probaly fell into the fade to never be used again lol
#54
Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:52
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it was fun a tad short and suprising they made us wait so long for it
no duncan body so my opinion "Skeletor" from awakenings is Duncan could be wrong but hes the same build and his clothes are similar opinions?
no duncan body so my opinion "Skeletor" from awakenings is Duncan could be wrong but hes the same build and his clothes are similar opinions?
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:54
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i hear the red steel changes at a higher level to dragon bone if you place it in warden keep box thingy (havent tried it out but worth a shot)Sun and Snow wrote...
For those wondering:
(spoilers obviously)
Duncan's Dagger (tier 7) - dagger, req. 30 dex
DMG 6.40
Crit. chance 4.80%
Armor penetration: 8
Str. Modifier: 0.85
+4 DEX
+10% crit/backstab damage
+10 damage vs dragons
3 rune slots
Duncan's Sword (tier 6) - longsword, req. 27 str
DMG 10.50
Crit chance 3%
Armor penetration: 3.50
STR modifier: 1
+3 willpower
+3 cunning
+4 stamina regeneration in combat
+4 dmg vs. darkspawn
2 rune slots
King's armor was Red Steel, Xbox360 version.
Best weapon name - Nug Crusher lol. I think I'll give that to Oghren.
Fun dlc, worth the money imo!
#56
Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:54
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''I was dissapointed when I gave to Alistair this ritual chalice (as I remember) expected that he ll start some conversation about my first ritual or atleast some comment and that he ll mention maybe Jory and Daveth whateve and he was just like +5 "Oh is that for meee?!" bla bla...''
Good point Xalena. Felt the exact same way. They could've done more with that.
Good point Xalena. Felt the exact same way. They could've done more with that.
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:54
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Operative84 wrote...
Blee4389 wrote...
How did all the cailin's items and the blade go scale up to dragon bone, I beat it with my character that beaten the game, and its just red steel?Ulicus wrote...
How long does the DLC take to finish?
It took me less than an hour on Nightmare BUT I was using my epilogue AW/BM alongside a very strong party.
Thankfully, I've just checked via the party chest and Cailan's items, and Maric's blade, all scale up to dragonbone!
Still, I'm sad to see the item description for Maric's blade has changed because the reference to Katriel was a lovely touch.
Yeah the red steel is just sad, also didnt understand where his big ass 2H sword went?
WTF? Maric's Sword Red Steel??? The book says its Dragonbone!
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:55
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Apparently the DLC showed Cailan as even more of an idiot than before. Good.
Not just an idiot, but, depending on one's perspective, a traitorous idiot.
Marrying the Empress of Orlais would bring the two countries together. Which, since Ferelden is the smaller, weaker of the two, means ferelden gets assimilated into a mere province of orlais. In other words, once again, Orlesians own Ferelden.
Which would mean, that all the bloodshed and horrors or the rebellion to kick Orlais out was for nothing. The son of the one who liberated Fereldan was getting ready to return it to it's former overlords without a single sword drawn.
No wonder Loghain was spitting and foaming at the mouth. And rightly so, in this case, he has a very damned good reason to be. It puts his earlier First Ostagar paranoia and loathing into more perspective, and gives us a basis of why he was running around, pre-Ostagar, plotting and poisoning. He was pretty much on the verge of losing everything he and Maric fought for.
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 12:56
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um...well... you see, the darkspawn shoved- nevermind, its, its just.... gone.Operative84 wrote...
Blee4389 wrote...
How did all the cailin's items and the blade go scale up to dragon bone, I beat it with my character that beaten the game, and its just red steel?Ulicus wrote...
How long does the DLC take to finish?
It took me less than an hour on Nightmare BUT I was using my epilogue AW/BM alongside a very strong party.
Thankfully, I've just checked via the party chest and Cailan's items, and Maric's blade, all scale up to dragonbone!
Still, I'm sad to see the item description for Maric's blade has changed because the reference to Katriel was a lovely touch.
Yeah the red steel is just sad, also didnt understand where his big ass 2H sword went?
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:00
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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Apparently the DLC showed Cailan as even more of an idiot than before. Good.
Not just an idiot, but, depending on one's perspective, a traitorous idiot.
Marrying the Empress of Orlais would bring the two countries together. Which, since Ferelden is the smaller, weaker of the two, means ferelden gets assimilated into a mere province of orlais. In other words, once again, Orlesians own Ferelden.
Which would mean, that all the bloodshed and horrors or the rebellion to kick Orlais out was for nothing. The son of the one who liberated Fereldan was getting ready to return it to it's former overlords without a single sword drawn.
No wonder Loghain was spitting and foaming at the mouth. And rightly so, in this case, he has a very damned good reason to be. It puts his earlier First Ostagar paranoia and loathing into more perspective, and gives us a basis of why he was running around, pre-Ostagar, plotting and poisoning. He was pretty much on the verge of losing everything he and Maric fought for.
In additio to everything you said, there is this that makes it even more hilarious:
"The current Empress of the Orlesian Empire, the creators of Dragon Age have compared Celene I to Catherine the Great.
Within her country, some claim that, at the age of 17, she organized her uncle's assassination and then outmaneuvered three older cousins in a contest for the throne, avoiding death twice."
http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Celene_I
hahaha that worthless buffoon was played as a toy by Anora, what chance does he have with Celene? hahaha
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:02
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Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Apparently the DLC showed Cailan as even more of an idiot than before. Good.
Not just an idiot, but, depending on one's perspective, a traitorous idiot.
Marrying the Empress of Orlais would bring the two countries together. Which, since Ferelden is the smaller, weaker of the two, means ferelden gets assimilated into a mere province of orlais. In other words, once again, Orlesians own Ferelden.
Which would mean, that all the bloodshed and horrors or the rebellion to kick Orlais out was for nothing. The son of the one who liberated Fereldan was getting ready to return it to it's former overlords without a single sword drawn.
No wonder Loghain was spitting and foaming at the mouth. And rightly so, in this case, he has a very damned good reason to be. It puts his earlier First Ostagar paranoia and loathing into more perspective, and gives us a basis of why he was running around, pre-Ostagar, plotting and poisoning. He was pretty much on the verge of losing everything he and Maric fought for.
i dont think its the same thing as what your saying Orlais Enslaved ferelden theres a huge difference between two nations becoming one via a marriage of royalty and one larger nation conquering the other.
Being honest i see it as logical Cailan gets a larger empire and two royal bloodlines become one ferelden would also get the benifit of prolly not being such a craphole filled with poverty strife and what not Elves apprently get treated better aswell in Orlais.
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:02
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[quote]What a Twist wrote...
[/quote]um...well... you see, the darkspawn shoved- nevermind, its, its just.... gone.
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I thought it'd be gone and back again like Gandalfs staff after the temporary imprisonment at Isengard lol.
Oh yeah what was up with such a rare and important Item/Gift like the Joining Chalice/Cup having no conversation or cutscene or anything?! Weak
[/quote]um...well... you see, the darkspawn shoved- nevermind, its, its just.... gone.
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I thought it'd be gone and back again like Gandalfs staff after the temporary imprisonment at Isengard lol.
Oh yeah what was up with such a rare and important Item/Gift like the Joining Chalice/Cup having no conversation or cutscene or anything?! Weak
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:09
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Zemore wrote...
i dont think its the same thing as what your saying Orlais Enslaved ferelden theres a huge difference between two nations becoming one via a marriage of royalty and one larger nation conquering the other.
Being honest i see it as logical Cailan gets a larger empire and two royal bloodlines become one ferelden would also get the benifit of prolly not being such a craphole filled with poverty strife and what not Elves apprently get treated better aswell in Orlais.
No. I disagree. We learn in game that if anything, people are LESS free and more subservient in Orlais than Ferelden. The Chevalier can do whatever they like to the common folk, including taking women by force, where as commoners in Ferelden do have legal rights in comparison. Elves, for that matter, are worse off in Orlais.
Cailan is not gaining an empire. The guy is a weakling idiot whose strings are being pulled by his wife. The Orlesian Empress? He might as well hand the country right over, because Cailan wouldn't be the one calling the shots, that's for damned sure. Ferelden would indeed return to Orlesian hands, something that most people in Ferelden simply do not want.
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:10
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Sorry to post about it again, but I seriously can't get over what a difference there was between my two playthroughs. It's really great writing/editing to make the story work on lots of levels.
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:11
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Sorry to post about it again, but I seriously can't get over what a difference there was between my two playthroughs. It's really great writing/editing to make the story work on lots of levels.
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:11
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Sorry to post about it again, but I seriously can't get over what a difference there was between my two playthroughs. It's really great writing/editing to make the story work on lots of levels.
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
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Sorry to post about it again, but I seriously can't get over what a difference there was between my two playthroughs. It's really great writing/editing to make the story work on lots of levels.
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
With my first, the "good" playthrough, it was just so emotional. Going back with Alistair and Wynne, seeing all the places we had fought and fallen, sharing memories of the people, noticing how long ago it felt... I was almost in tears at the sight of Cailan. When we found that Orlais would have come to help us, it seemed so bittersweet. It could have all been so different.
However, the "Bad" playthrough, it was Cousland and his future father in law Loghain, looking to understand each others motives better. And for Cousland, a chance to finally size up Cailan. Finding those documents was the moment Cousland gained the upper hand against the former king, and looking up at his corpse... was a moment of power, not of sadness.I was disgusted, alongside Loghain, that he could treat Ferelden and my characters fiancee with such distain.
...well done, Bioware!
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:19
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"The Chevalier can do whatever they like to the common folk," City elf Orgin story =/ and Lohgain ..... if you have power and status you can get away with a crap load of things no matter where you are so i dont think in that extent Orlais is uniqueSkadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Zemore wrote...
i dont think its the same thing as what your saying Orlais Enslaved ferelden theres a huge difference between two nations becoming one via a marriage of royalty and one larger nation conquering the other.
Being honest i see it as logical Cailan gets a larger empire and two royal bloodlines become one ferelden would also get the benifit of prolly not being such a craphole filled with poverty strife and what not Elves apprently get treated better aswell in Orlais.
No. I disagree. We learn in game that if anything, people are LESS free and more subservient in Orlais than Ferelden. The Chevalier can do whatever they like to the common folk, including taking women by force, where as commoners in Ferelden do have legal rights in comparison. Elves, for that matter, are worse off in Orlais.
Cailan is not gaining an empire. The guy is a weakling idiot whose strings are being pulled by his wife. The Orlesian Empress? He might as well hand the country right over, because Cailan wouldn't be the one calling the shots, that's for damned sure. Ferelden would indeed return to Orlesian hands, something that most people in Ferelden simply do not want.
From what ive heard from the chars ingame elves are far better off than they are in Ferelden some having "servants of thier own" which means they have money to me ive yet to see any of the Ferelden elfs to have any benifits like that.
as for Cailan he was smart enough to start an affair with the Empress of Orlais Anora may have pulled the strings of the kingdom but he held all the power he could discard her at any point and the fact is we dont know the relationship between him and the empress she could treat him with alot more respect than Anora did you cant say for sure what would happen the fact does remain Cailan would gain an empire which he would most certainly command the armies of which i think is the thing he would be interested in anyway he doesnt give a crap about the other stuff.
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:24
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The Grey Warden commander mentioned in the letter from the Empress must be the one we'll be able to play in Awakening, right?
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:25
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Champion1 wrote...
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So I downloaded "Return to Ostagar" and as I was playing I noticed all my specializations were locked again after I had unlocked each one of them for all my characters. Has this happened to anyone else?
Yea, that happened to me too. I assumed it was because they wanted to stop having one character unlock a specialization and all your other characters automatically being able to use it, but it sucks cause I went through the conversations and training on all my characters even though I already had the specials unlocked. Now everything's locked again and I can't redo the conversations, so I'm running around trying to find the books and getting the specials late. Not fun
I figured as much. I had used some of the books too already, so it looks as if I should just start over. Thanks for the help!
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:31
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In Ferelden, you can't legally do whatever you like to the common folk, even the elves. Loghain's sale of the elves into slavery was highly illegal, hence, why it was being done in secrecy. Eamon even states that this evidence can be used againt him at Landsmeet. City elf origin story: tell the king that you killed Vaughn for raping your friend/cousin. While shocked at your bluntness, he does not seem that bothered by it. Though people still in Ferelden (and orlais) consider elves to be sub-human, they still have certain rights in Ferelden.
Read the codexes, and you find the Alienage in Val Royeaux is far more confining/oppressive than the one on Denerim. They are not much better off, in some ways, worse.
But the issue isn't the elves, the issue is the independance of Ferelden. Anora and Cailan got along fine. Cailan simply was not smart enough to run the game, hence, Anora did the thinking because someone had to. If you think that the Orlesian Empress will somehow allow a weak king from an inferior nation any real say of what happens in governing, you know nothing of politics, which is the real game here.
Cailan wasn't "smart" in starting an affair with a ruthless, powerful empress. And it wouldn't matter whose armies he commanded. Power is not in who commands the forces, it's in who makes the policy and runs the country, something we see that Cailan is pretty much incapable of doing. Throught the whole game, it's stated several times that Anora was the one who ruled, Cailan lacked the brainpower to do so. He just sat there, looking pretty, and looking for ways to outshine his old man.
Read the codexes, and you find the Alienage in Val Royeaux is far more confining/oppressive than the one on Denerim. They are not much better off, in some ways, worse.
But the issue isn't the elves, the issue is the independance of Ferelden. Anora and Cailan got along fine. Cailan simply was not smart enough to run the game, hence, Anora did the thinking because someone had to. If you think that the Orlesian Empress will somehow allow a weak king from an inferior nation any real say of what happens in governing, you know nothing of politics, which is the real game here.
Cailan wasn't "smart" in starting an affair with a ruthless, powerful empress. And it wouldn't matter whose armies he commanded. Power is not in who commands the forces, it's in who makes the policy and runs the country, something we see that Cailan is pretty much incapable of doing. Throught the whole game, it's stated several times that Anora was the one who ruled, Cailan lacked the brainpower to do so. He just sat there, looking pretty, and looking for ways to outshine his old man.
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Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:35
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It
took me about 2 hours to complete, but that was with a level 7
character I happened to have who had just finished Lothering last
night. I'm guessing if I come back with some characters that are
sitting at the epilogue, they'll rip through it in significantly less
time.
There are a few cutscenes, but about 80% of the footage is
just recut from the first encounter at Ostagar. Others have already covered the only interesting
story development/addition. None of the encounters were terribly challenging for me,
except for one with some blight wolves, which probably had more to do
with my level than the encounter design.
The main story item rewards:
Weapons:
Duncan's Dagger: 2 rune slots*, +4 Dex, +10% crit/backstab damage, +10 damage v. dragons.
Duncan's Sword: 2 rune slots*, +3 Will, +3 Cunning, +4 Stam Regen**, +4 damage v. darkspawn.
Maric's Blade (Longsword): 2 rune slots*, +1.5 Health Regen in
Combat, Weakens Nearby Darkspawn, +1.5 Stam Regen**, +6 Damage v.
Darkspawn
Cailan's Shield: Kite Shield, +1 Armor, Chance to Avoid Missile Attacks
The Blade and Shield have a set bonus to damage and stam regen.
Unknown amounts (when I equip the shield, Alistair's damage jumps from
40.3 to 46.9 on the char screen, but there are obviously some other
modifiers going on there).
Cailan's Armor (Massive):
Chest: +1 Armor, +15 Phys Resistance
Boots: +1 Armor, +20% dodge
Gauntlets: +1 Armor, +15% Crit/Backstab Damage
Helm: +1 Armor, +10 Mental Resist
Set Bonus: Reduced fatigue and health regen in combat. Unknown amounts (no one has high enough strength to equip yet!).
These were all Tier 5; I was assuming that was because I'm low level, but it seems like everyone is reporting them as Red Steel, so they might be static.
Along the way, I also picked up two items I haven't seen
before (and don't seem to be in the wiki), so I think they are also new
additions:
Nug Crusher (2 Handed Maul): 2 Rune Slots*, +4 Dex, +100 Stam, Chance to Stun
Repeater Gloves*** (Light): Rapid Aim, +1 Armor Pen
*If you can get them at T7 they should have
3 slots.
**I'm playing on X360, and these are the display values I see. I know for most items stam regen is half this amount on the PC.
***These are Tier 1, which is low even for my char, so I'm assuming they stay that way.
took me about 2 hours to complete, but that was with a level 7
character I happened to have who had just finished Lothering last
night. I'm guessing if I come back with some characters that are
sitting at the epilogue, they'll rip through it in significantly less
time.
There are a few cutscenes, but about 80% of the footage is
just recut from the first encounter at Ostagar. Others have already covered the only interesting
story development/addition. None of the encounters were terribly challenging for me,
except for one with some blight wolves, which probably had more to do
with my level than the encounter design.
The main story item rewards:
Weapons:
Duncan's Dagger: 2 rune slots*, +4 Dex, +10% crit/backstab damage, +10 damage v. dragons.
Duncan's Sword: 2 rune slots*, +3 Will, +3 Cunning, +4 Stam Regen**, +4 damage v. darkspawn.
Maric's Blade (Longsword): 2 rune slots*, +1.5 Health Regen in
Combat, Weakens Nearby Darkspawn, +1.5 Stam Regen**, +6 Damage v.
Darkspawn
Cailan's Shield: Kite Shield, +1 Armor, Chance to Avoid Missile Attacks
The Blade and Shield have a set bonus to damage and stam regen.
Unknown amounts (when I equip the shield, Alistair's damage jumps from
40.3 to 46.9 on the char screen, but there are obviously some other
modifiers going on there).
Cailan's Armor (Massive):
Chest: +1 Armor, +15 Phys Resistance
Boots: +1 Armor, +20% dodge
Gauntlets: +1 Armor, +15% Crit/Backstab Damage
Helm: +1 Armor, +10 Mental Resist
Set Bonus: Reduced fatigue and health regen in combat. Unknown amounts (no one has high enough strength to equip yet!).
These were all Tier 5; I was assuming that was because I'm low level, but it seems like everyone is reporting them as Red Steel, so they might be static.
Along the way, I also picked up two items I haven't seen
before (and don't seem to be in the wiki), so I think they are also new
additions:
Nug Crusher (2 Handed Maul): 2 Rune Slots*, +4 Dex, +100 Stam, Chance to Stun
Repeater Gloves*** (Light): Rapid Aim, +1 Armor Pen
*If you can get them at T7 they should have
3 slots.
**I'm playing on X360, and these are the display values I see. I know for most items stam regen is half this amount on the PC.
***These are Tier 1, which is low even for my char, so I'm assuming they stay that way.
#73
Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 01:51
nyxocity
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Very cool. Thoroughly enjoyed getting to see Ostagar again, it really DID bring back memories. Some nice weapons and conversations between Alistair and Wynne. I wish there had been more though, or that I could have talked to them afterward about what we saw/experienced. All that said, I think it's obvious we'll be seeing Duncan in the expansion.
The scene with Cailan tugged at me even though I hadn't thought much of him before. I kept wishing we could take his body down from the moment I saw it. The Christ-symbolism distracted me a bit from my emotion, but what really hit me afterward was this: I assumed with all the traveling we'd been doing throughout the game, that it had been months since the battle at Ostagar, at least. But Cailan looks like he's been dead for days at most. Understanding that in the future, people will be able to play this addition at any point, I could buy magic keeping Cailan preserved if there weren't other whole, unrotted bodies lying about everywhere.
I hadn't read the letters we found, yet. VERY interesting and unbelievably stupid on Cailan's part. It also puts Loghain's actions into perspective. It doesn't make his actions SANE, mind you, but it does put them in perspective.
The scene with Cailan tugged at me even though I hadn't thought much of him before. I kept wishing we could take his body down from the moment I saw it. The Christ-symbolism distracted me a bit from my emotion, but what really hit me afterward was this: I assumed with all the traveling we'd been doing throughout the game, that it had been months since the battle at Ostagar, at least. But Cailan looks like he's been dead for days at most. Understanding that in the future, people will be able to play this addition at any point, I could buy magic keeping Cailan preserved if there weren't other whole, unrotted bodies lying about everywhere.
I hadn't read the letters we found, yet. VERY interesting and unbelievably stupid on Cailan's part. It also puts Loghain's actions into perspective. It doesn't make his actions SANE, mind you, but it does put them in perspective.
#74
Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 02:03
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ghoststar479 wrote...
i left ostagar and returned back and still nothing.
Did you... return to Ostagar?
#75
Posté 14 janvier 2010 - 02:12
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No. I disagree. We learn in game that if anything, people are LESS free and more subservient in Orlais than Ferelden. The Chevalier can do whatever they like to the common folk, including taking women by force, where as commoners in Ferelden do have legal rights in comparison. Elves, for that matter, are worse off in Orlais.
Cailan is not gaining an empire. The guy is a weakling idiot whose strings are being pulled by his wife. The Orlesian Empress? He might as well hand the country right over, because Cailan wouldn't be the one calling the shots, that's for damned sure. Ferelden would indeed return to Orlesian hands, something that most people in Ferelden simply do not want.
Bolded for emphasis and QFT.
Holy geez, Cailan was an utter moron. Loghain did a lot of bad things but getting rid of Cailan was not one of them.
I am utterly disgusted Arl Eamon wasn't against it either. NO WONDER Loghain poisoned him before Ostagar. It all makes sense now.
To think that anybody would imagine that Cailan was smart enough to think he'd gain anything from marrying the genius-empress of Orlais when his own wife Anora was RUNNING the kingdom because he wasn't smart enough to, is, well... wow. just wow.
Modifié par Vicious, 14 janvier 2010 - 02:13 .
