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Mirror Match at the Armax Arena is INSANE


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#26
Eterna

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I'm playing on insanity....... So many tears....

#27
Sideria

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Insanity, solo, vanguard with no ammo, no medigel, enemy shield boost and enemy damage boost.
Succeeded just once after many many death.

With the one shoot shield handicap, I can't ^^ seems impossible as vanguard.

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If you have it, use the Venom. It makes even mirror match pretty trivial.

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My advice is find a corner to weep in and let Wrex do all the work. That's what I did.

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I was thourghly enjoying this Citadel DLC and doing quite well up until I tried the Mirror Match in the armax arena. I use a Biotic Shepherd and trying to do the Mirror Match on Normal is down right improbable! Note that I said "improbable" not "impossible", if I tried it on insane that I think would be impossible, based on what I have experienced.
I've tried this for the past three hours and came close to finishing it only once. Gold or Platinum on Multiplayer seems like a breeze compared to the Mirror Match in the Armax arena.
It's the fact that every enemy attacks your character exclusively, they ignore your team mates, the enemies spam grenades and never seem to run out, this may be something new they added as the enemy grenades have area of effect that lingers and denys you cover or access to a part of the level and if you stay there you take damage, however, the second you leave cover they fire numerous powers & attacks at your character with insane precision, they also have an uncanny ability to dodge your biotic attacks and somehow I am not getting biotic explosions when you should! 
Now I can understand the need for it to be challenging, after all it is supposed to be a mirror of your Shepherd, however, this takes the preverbial ******! I go down faster than I can take one of them down on Normal difficulty for gods sake! I've also had a glitch where it didn't spawn anything after the first round, I waited over 10 minutes and nothing happend, had to reload the game. Now what I've noticed is that Wrex and Grunt just stand there and watch the carnage unfold in front of them and do nothing, they might use a power if I tell them to but then just go back to standing idly by doing nothing, this pissed me off no end! I began to think how many other characters in your party do nothing during the Mirror Match!? Is this why I'm getting creamed all the time? My team mates are doing nothing and I'm taking all the heat, all the time, with nowhere to run and unable to take cover. I'll admit I'm not the best player around but I'm no where near that bad, especially when its supposed to be on NORMAL difficulty setting!
My point of this rant is, that the Mirror Match on the lower difficulty settings is WAY more challenging than it should or needs to be and this has spoiled my play through, leaving me frustrated and angry. When I do get through this and get the achievement I highly doubt I'll play this section of the game ever again, saying that I will get a sense of gratitude and accomplishment when I do get the achievement. This is kinda counter to what I just said but needs saying that The One and Only achievement is actually worthy of the name "achievement" cause its soo bloody hard to get!:huh:

Modifié par VALIS XLii, 21 mars 2013 - 03:50 .


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Absaroka

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Another possibility is to bring along Wrex and Grunt both equipped with Reegar Carbines modded with Blade Attachments and Shredder mods. Their AI makes them both prone to rushing an opponent in melee, this setup will give them huge damage output and some of the Shepard dopplegangers like the Vanguard and Infiltrator love getting close anyway so it lets you pick off the more aggressive ones.

You might also want to set their powers to manual use; Carnage and Concussive Shot aren't too great anyway but Barrier and Fortification can be kept up at all times and their grenade powers are useful in a pinch (also, if you don't set powers to manual Wrex tends to waste his grenades fast).

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I tried it on Insanity and couldn't beat the first wave on round 3 with my Infiltrator. Kasumi (damage tactical cloak) and Kaidan make for a powerful squad, though, and maybe one day I can beat it. When the Vanguards start charging in, the problems start.

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Agent Zoot wrote...

To be honest I couldn't even pass on Normal. (I'm ashamed. I'm no Spectre!) lol


Took me a while to pass it on normal. I think I ended up passing it with Kaidan and Garrus ( originally I was trying with Wrex and Grunt and it was't working out well )

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Go to the strategy section and check infiltrator builds for insanity. In short this what you need.

Black widow 5 or higher
Energy drain as bonus power.
Tactical cloak maxed
disruptor ammo max.

This loadout literally tears shield apart. And the Black Widow paired with tactical cloak is the best gun-power combo in the game.

For this fight I would bring tanks like James and wrex or grunt. Maybe a biotic with warp. But I wouldn't take any chances.


Good luck.

@ OP here you go. Did the work for ya. Follow these builds and instruction and you'll merk up clone shep fast. 

http://social.biowar.../index/15702478


http://social.biowar...7/index/9912311

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 21 mars 2013 - 07:46 .


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It took a while to do it on insane as it was very VERY hard.
As soon as you poke your head out you will get staggered or your shields go down.
But I was using the surpressor with a heavy barrel and a cerberus harrier and that did the trick.

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Reptilian Rob

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I did it on insane no problem, maybe it's because I play a lot of shooters and 3Ps' as well?

Anyway, it's all about moving and shooting. You should be always in motions and shooting, use cover and then move on. Don't stay in one place and only use weapons with a HRF like the Revenant, Lancer, Avenger or Harrier. Also (unless you are a soldier) forget about powers except for Warp and Overload, the rest are useless.

Soldiers, spam AR as much as possible. Always have it on!
Infiltrators need to spam cloak too, should always be on.

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shodiswe wrote...

I played an infiltrator on insane, hardcore and that worked, I also tried to get to higher ground when possible. So it's killable, probably easiest at a range though.


Well, the Infiltrator is probably the most OP class, so the game becomes much more easier when you play one :P

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This thing again huh? I noticed just how tough it was ands I was playing it on normal just to get the achievement.. I had a sentinal shep with garrus and kaiden. I put on the added damage to my squad as well, the only advantage I could get. And then went onto the spin zone map and worked from there. The clones go after your shep which means your group can attack without hinderance.

Modifié par Mr Heatsink, 21 mars 2013 - 09:59 .


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SinerAthin

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Hint: It is easier if you play as Male Shepard. Then you have a bigger target to shoot at.

Modifié par SinerAthin, 21 mars 2013 - 11:24 .


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SinerAthin wrote...

Hint: It is easier if you play as Male Shepard. Then you have a bigger target to shoot at.


I don't Think Male Shep has a bigger head..

#41
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I love mirror match armax. Took me a half dozen or so tries on insanity but I did it. You need to always remember that poking your head out of cover and being hit by anything is a death sentence so always scout out to make sure no powers are coming your way before poking out of cover. Additionally you'll want to only poke out of cover for a second to get off a power or a few shots. If you are a power user, make sure you're setting up detonations before hand with your squad mates first to maximize the amount of damage you're doing each time. Always prioritize Shepards that are aggressively moving toward you and try to burn them down quick.

Modifié par SurfaceBeneath, 21 mars 2013 - 11:36 .


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I was able to do it on insanity with my Vanguard pretty easily. . .but only because I gave my teammates Typhoons and let them do all the work!

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SinerAthin

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shodiswe wrote...

SinerAthin wrote...

Hint: It is easier if you play as Male Shepard. Then you have a bigger target to shoot at.


I don't Think Male Shep has a bigger head..


His posture makes his head 3% or so easier to hit.

But his body is like 30-40% easier to hit :P

It's nice if things go to hell and you just need to hit something and don't have time to line up the perfect headshot.

Modifié par SinerAthin, 21 mars 2013 - 11:45 .


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kind of weird how no one mentions that in mirror match that you meet all the different class shepards but somehow ALL of them can use powers they should not have... like every class being able to use incinerate and only aim for you.... just saying... is it a bug or what????

Modifié par smeggins773, 31 mars 2013 - 02:17 .


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Attempting this with a Lv 55 Engineer on Insanity with Lancer V and Wraith V... yeah, not happening. Ever. Can't even get past round 1. Stunlock city to be sure.

I should probably just not do this anymore. Not with this class.

[edit]  Tried it with the Grunt/Wrex Reegar strategy, and all they did was stand and fart around.  They didn't engage the clones worth a damn.  And this happened on two maps.  Whenever I told them to focus, they just stood there.

Funny.  When I most need those two to hang back (like in Fatal Error) they make a headlong rush toward everything like a newb Novaguard.  But when I most need them to do that... they don't do anything.

Modifié par Violent_Lucidity, 02 avril 2013 - 09:25 .


#46
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Biotic Charge --> Nova ---> Biotic Charge ---> Nova, rinse and repeat.

Seriously, i beat it the first time through with my Vanguard on Hardcore. (Didnt have any handicaps turned on though)

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ruggly wrote...

I made halfway through the third round after like 10 other tries before I just gave up. Also, is it just me, or do Wrex and Grunt have a habit of just..watching you.


It's not just you. I basically soloed this match cause they wouldn't target anyone. 

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LordRaptor wrote...

ruggly wrote...

I made halfway through the third round after like 10 other tries before I just gave up. Also, is it just me, or do Wrex and Grunt have a habit of just..watching you.


It's not just you. I basically soloed this match cause they wouldn't target anyone. 


The Krogan just stand around on mirror match.  I don't know if it's just a bug or intentional because Bioware figured everyone would try to use them to just stroll through the match.  I used Kaidan and James to get the achievement.  With chain overload, the multiple fire explosions can do some serious damage while staggering the clones.  They helped a lot more than just having two stationary meat tanks.

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I play on Narrative, because I enjoy the story and like to feel OP. The Mirror Matches are insane. Those Shepards are broken.

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johnnythao89 wrote...

I play on Narrative, because I enjoy the story and like to feel OP. The Mirror Matches are insane. Those Shepards are broken.


Honestly the vanguard is the only really broken one.  That and the stupid DOT grenades everyone throws.