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#51
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bogsters23 wrote...

lvl 4 equipment are useful. before that you'll only get character cards which are useless to someone who does not promote.


They are useful to an extent, but 99,000 credits for 2 single use ammo's is insane. You don't get character cards after you have that character's appearances maxed, and those at least aren't consumed after one use.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

My last random comment, I promise.


How would that be fair to the people who *have* dumped 800+ hours into the game?


How would what be fair? A UR pack?


Yes, how would handing over a UR after a few platinum matches be fair to the people who have played hours upon hours of Platinum and just barely maxed their stuff out recently?

How is it fair to the people who have played over 800 hours and not gotten maxed out Ultra Rares?

The Ultra Rare system is stupidly useless. You can go huge lengths of time without seeing a significant number of Ultra Rare drops.

People should not be forced to play Platinum just to "max their stuff out".
Platinum is (to put it politely) just as useless as the Ultra Rare system.

Both instances are perfect examples of artificially modifying the "difficulty" to allow for the player to have an inflated sense of self-worth in regards to their game experience.

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Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

@Grinch

To be fair my comment wasn't really directed at you so much as several very obnoxious troll comments.

No problem.  Your response seemed a bit of a non-sequitor to me or at least a misreading of what I wrote, now I understand.

I was trying to be funny, didn't succeed so well there.  Probably what I should have said is that I don't think they are going to do it.  From their perspective, I think they believe the PSP fills that role, even if the payout is low percentage versus certain.

Plus I responded to using the word "need" when "want" is what we are talking about.  Regardless of how much we desire something we want, it's still a want.  Pet peeve of mine, conflating wants with needs.  Long story.

Modifié par Grinch57, 12 mars 2013 - 12:43 .


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If this existed, MP would've ceased to exist long ago.

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Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

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Yeah I can see what you're saying. Do you feel that 700k-1m would be unreasonable? What would you set it at?


As I said in a different comment, I don't care how expensive it is (though I think 1m should be the ceiling), I just don't want to keep burning my money for nothing at all.


Also I respect and appreciate you actually discussing our differences of opinion politely and rationally.


De nada, decency around here is a rare thing. I'm glad you didn't snap at me. Though I feel it would be unfair to older players you do make a good point in saying that making it unfair for newer players for the sake of unfairness isn't right either. Put it in, but make it expensive. B)

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Game has been out for a year.

Either release a pack that gives an UR and price it at 350k/$5 or...

...increase the drop-rate by a good margin.

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1 million or bust

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A UR only pack worth 699,000 credits wouldn't be such a bad thing. To accrue 699,000 credits you would need 9-10 extractions on Gold or 5-6 extractions on Platinum to afford one. That's still somewhere between 2.5-3.5 hours of actual time played (and I'm going with the average PUG games). Add in wait times in the lobby, loading screens and you're easily in it for 4 hours just to be able to buy 1 UR pack. It would still take nearly 650 hours to max out the UR's. And all this doesn't take into account spending credits for jumbo packs or new players starting out on Bronze or Silver for the first 60-70 hours they play.

And it's not like other companies haven't released special bonuses on games that have been out for over a year or even 2. The one I remember best was Gears of War 2. In the 6 months leading up to the release of Gears 3, Epic Games had extra XP events on holidays or weekends for those gamers with low levels to be able to max out. The most memorable event was around Halloween, 31x the usual XP across all multi-player modes. So companies doing bonuses for newer palyers that has zero effect on the long time, hardcore players has been happening plenty of times before.

Modifié par bartz824, 12 mars 2013 - 12:54 .


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Doommarine23 wrote...

Silvair wrote...

 No we don't, quit whining, they are ULTRA RARE, you don't "try" to get something that's ultra rare.

Just play, and they'll pop up when they do.

If you could just farm ultra rares with an ultra rare pack, it would defeat the entire purpose.


Yall need to quit whining, just play, you'll get em when you get em.

Jesus, feel like a teacher dealing with a buncha preschoolers.  So impatient...


Too bad "RARES" have 4 packs DEDICATED to them and "Uncommons" have a pack dedicated to them. The fact that "ULTRA-RARES" are hurp-durp hard as gold to find when "RARES" are water, is the most insanely inane thing I have ever witnessed about this game, and the most inane thing to support.

Also honestly, the only one being disrespectful and passive aggressive is you. We're not your "inferiors" and you are not our superior (Teacher vs Children). You really can't call others children, when you're being one yourself. I have no ill towards you, and I don't see why people having a differing opinion from you, really require to be belittled.

Its also different to politely ask about an UR pack, and demanding one. This thread is simply asking.

He likes Adas. That will make you feel how genius he is.

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i agree whatever the cost of creds it will be to get one doesnt matter as long as its guarenteed. the games done as far as dlcs so let people enjoy it rather than slaving over trying to unlock URs

Modifié par BlueAura, 12 mars 2013 - 12:53 .


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FellowMusicFan wrote...

If this existed, MP would've ceased to exist long ago.


Indoctrinated.

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1.5 million, otherwise no.

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All i know is if there is another game that uses this random store system i will not even consider buying it. The random store doesnt reward progression. And when i do get a UR my thought is effing finally and not oh sweet. That is never a good attitude to have when it comes to rewards.

Modifié par Fang92, 12 mars 2013 - 01:02 .


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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Compromise: Make it worth 700k

Are we gonna keep raising the price on this thing? Anyway, do we have a UR kit jar, if we did we could afford another cruiser.

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pmac_tk421 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Compromise: Make it worth 700k

Are we gonna keep raising the price on this thing? Anyway, do we have a UR kit jar, if we did we could afford another cruiser.


Yeah, we're gonna keep raising the price. An UR Pack has to cost...your soul. Better hope you get what you want.

And I think we can do better then another cruiser with how many credits people are putting into that jar.

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How about a pack that has a 20 or 30 percent but if you don't get an ultra rare than you don't get anything

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Let me put it to you this way, I horded 2.1 million credits for when reckoning came out.that's 21 PSPs right there. Out of all the PSPs I bought I only got two ultra rares. That's one out of ten. Now it says on the PSP "high chance for Ultra Rares". One out of ten does not seem very high to me.

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They should, but it should be REAL CASH only. That way the people who earned it the hard way aren't really screwed.

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I completely agree, I have been using cryo ammo 4 every round I play cause that's all I Freakin get. All I want is BW upgrades and lancer upgrades. Also harrier I guess lol, but even at 5 its already powerful enough

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I like how people think making an expensive pack dedicated to URs somehow undermines the fact that they are "ultra rare," but we have dedicated packs that have 2 guaranteed "rare" cards. Don't use verbiage to justify that argument.

Secondly, how is it unfair to people that played 800+ and maxed their manifest? What's unfair is that I will spend millions and millions of credits and get NOTHING in return.

The UR drop system is currently BS. I've spent more than 13M credits since Reckoning, and still don't have a damned Lancer. Meanwhile, I have seen people with less than 200 challenge points with a Lancer. How is that fair? Did they somehow earn it more that I did? It's BS.

Modifié par BlackDahlia424, 12 mars 2013 - 01:26 .


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BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I like how people think making an expensive pack dedicated to URs somehow undermines the fact that they are "ultra rare," but we have dedicated packs that have 2 guaranteed "rare" cards. Don't use verbiage to justify that argument.

Secondly, how is it unfair to people that played 800+ and maxed their manifest? What's unfair is that I will spend millions and millions of credits and get NOTHING in return.

The UR drop system is currently BS. I've spent more than 13M credits since Reckoning, and still don't have a damned Lancer. Meanwhile, I have seen people with less than 200 challenge points with a Lancer. How is that fair? Did they somehow earn it more that I did? It's BS.


+1

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All of the people suggesting sky-high prices or suggesting a method that takes just as long as the current method are missing the point of the OP's suggestion. The point is not to be "fair" to those with manifests that are already maxed, or to devise a new way of unlocking things that takes the same amount of time as the old system.

I'm not trying to be insulting, and if I am then I apologize. The point of suggesting a pack that guarantees UR drops is to make it take LESS time.

I still think a limited time only UR pack that costs 220k is the answer. It takes three Silver games to buy a PSP/AP/RP. Three Gold games for the next step up is reasonable.

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no. and anything less than 1 million credits is a joke.

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Spawnfreak73 wrote...

Let me put it to you this way, I horded 2.1 million credits for when reckoning came out.that's 21 PSPs right there. Out of all the PSPs I bought I only got two ultra rares. That's one out of ten. Now it says on the PSP "high chance for Ultra Rares". One out of ten does not seem very high to me.

You've misquote the description. 

The description says "higher chance for Ultra Rares" which has a different meaning than what you stated. 

Higher than what? 

Given the timeframe for writing of the description, higher than Recruit, Veteran or Spectre Packs. 

Probably/possibly higher than Reserve or Arsenal packs, but that is a different debate. 

What it does not say is a "high chance for Ultra Rares", no such claim is made.

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Grammaton Dryad wrote...

no. and anything less than 1 million credits is a joke.


Real Cash is no joke.