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[Volkai7]

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

[GoWest89]

IDK about guaranteed UR pack but I would like to see the UR drop rate buffed a little bit (not sure if possible)...somewhere on the order of 5%

[khannoir]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

How about real money only? Would that satisfy you OP? $2 a pack?

That would be $320 to max all URs... More than my Xbox and this game cost together.

Compare that to the 1500$ that got dropped by a player to max his Wii manifesxt and I think you see where the  micro transactions train is going to take you...

[Commander Coriander Salamander]

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

Nice to see a fellow magic player on here

That analogy breaks down because there isn't a point, after opening enough magic packs where you stop opening rares (or at least when the value of a rare decreases significantly)

[parico]

khannoir wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

How about real money only? Would that satisfy you OP? $2 a pack?

That would be $320 to max all URs... More than my Xbox and this game cost together.

Compare that to the 1500$ that got dropped by a player to max his Wii manifesxt and I think you see where the  micro transactions train is going to take you...

With the average being about 26 million credits for most just to max out reckoning which is about $780 in real cash I'd say micro-transactions are a fools errand.  I would not be oppossed to a pack guaranteeing a UR, but it should cost at least 750,000 credits or 800 points to get it.  

[Fang92]

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.
Not all of us want this.
I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.
There is fun in finding out what you get.

Its similar but not the same thing. In a pack of Magic cards you can sell individual cards, they can be moved to another deck, they are not limited to one use, multiple cards can be good, and those Foil and Mythic Rare cards can be bought. Also, Magic can be played on both amateur and pro levels to recoup some money spent on cards. Then there is the fact that you are building a collection. Plus, holding a physical item just feels better.

This system has none of that. You cant sell back cards to try again, you cant pick and choose which weapon/character you want, rare cards are one off cards after a certain point and even before that they are meaningless, ooh yay i get to change the lights and colors on my character <_<. Thats a damn arbitrary way to "extend" your game.

[Leeeeeroy jenkins]

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

For one Magic has a billion times more "items" which are all much more interesting. For two: The Magic equivilent of the ME3 store for people like me would be buying a $50 Magic card pack and only getting cards that disolve upon use (aka IV consumables).

[Lord Rosario]

Commander Coriander Salamander wrote...

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

Nice to see a fellow magic player on here

That analogy breaks down because there isn't a point, after opening enough magic packs where you stop opening rares (or at least when the value of a rare decreases significantly)

^This.

And you can trade Magic Cards. Can't do that with these. And you can buy individual foil or Mythic Rare cards as well. You can't do that with this store.

I wonder how many packs of Magic cards you'd have to buy to be able to make a well working deck out of it without trading or buying single cards... By that point, you'd be able to open your own store and SELL the single cards you didn't want.

[EdAndEinBebop]

why? there is no point in having ultra rare weapons when everyone is running around with maxed out URs besides it doesnt take long to max out those anyway.

[Commander Coriander Salamander]

Lord Rosario wrote...

And you can buy individual foil or Mythic Rare cards as well.

Just wanted to point out that this would be almost equivilent to having an UR pack.



Also, seeing all these Magic players makes me want to start a group for Magic players on BSN.

[Leeeeeroy jenkins]

EdAndEinBebop wrote...

why? there is no point in having ultra rare weapons when everyone is running around with maxed out URs besides it doesnt take long to max out those anyway.

.........? What? Do you use ultra rare guns to feel special that other people don't have them? I want them because they are good/interesting guns, so that's a big point. It obviously takes long since the "accepted norm" seems to be around 800 hours of play. I've spent millions of credits and got maybe 2 UR's and everything else was IV ammo.

Modifié par Leeeeeroy jenkins, 12 mars 2013 - 05:22 .

[fayk_id]

for 500k, i want it

to me, its 1 UR each 2-2.5 mln right now

which is too expensive

[Dalakaar]

Now introducing The Ultimate Pack, 1,000,000c
includes
One UR Weapon
One UR Character
One Random UR
One leather clad, Ducati riding, SCCA BMW racing, electrical engineer, secure communications development manager who will declare her love for you, quit her job, trash her career and move from *insert location* to *insert location*, to share your bed in everlasting bliss.

>.> <.< Wut?

[fayk_id]

EdAndEinBebop wrote...

why? there is no point in having ultra rare weapons when everyone is running around with maxed out URs besides it doesnt take long to max out those anyway.

you're either lucky or troll, or both

playing average of 2 plat games + 5 gold games per evening and getting nothing for three evenings in a row, is not normal

what exactly are you talking about when saying "it doesnt take long"? a year?

[EdAndEinBebop]

Have you played any of the other online RPGs? like Diablo, WoW etc? I mean it took me less than two months to max out all the URs before the latest DLC and soon I will be have the new URs maxed out as well. It usually take a lot longer to get the best gear when playing any of the other rpg

[EdAndEinBebop]

fayk_id wrote...

EdAndEinBebop wrote...

why? there is no point in having ultra rare weapons when everyone is running around with maxed out URs besides it doesnt take long to max out those anyway.

you're either lucky or troll, or both

playing average of 2 plat games + 5 gold games per evening and getting nothing for three evenings in a row, is not normal

what exactly are you talking about when saying "it doesnt take long"? a year?

believe me it happens to me all the time but I also know that some evenings I also get 3 URs from 4 psps

[fayk_id]

EdAndEinBebop wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

EdAndEinBebop wrote...

why? there is no point in having ultra rare weapons when everyone is running around with maxed out URs besides it doesnt take long to max out those anyway.

you're either lucky or troll, or both

playing average of 2 plat games + 5 gold games per evening and getting nothing for three evenings in a row, is not normal

what exactly are you talking about when saying "it doesnt take long"? a year?

believe me it happens to me all the time but I also know that some evenings I also get 3 URs from 4 psps

you must be a very lucky person. never happened to me. the luckiest i ever got was 2 URs out of 1.5 mln, and it only happened once.

[Dalakaar]

fayk_id wrote...

EdAndEinBebop wrote...

fayk_id wrote...

EdAndEinBebop wrote...

why? there is no point in having ultra rare weapons when everyone is running around with maxed out URs besides it doesnt take long to max out those anyway.

you're either lucky or troll, or both

playing average of 2 plat games + 5 gold games per evening and getting nothing for three evenings in a row, is not normal

what exactly are you talking about when saying "it doesnt take long"? a year?

believe me it happens to me all the time but I also know that some evenings I also get 3 URs from 4 psps

you must be a very lucky person. never happened to me. the luckiest i ever got was 2 URs out of 1.5 mln, and it only happened once.

I've gotten three in a row, and then whatever the opposite of three in a row is. (Meaning baaaad.) it truly is RnG with no bastardization.

[Rosalina is my BabyCakes]

I agree even knowing it does give away the ultra rare portion of the gun.
The game gets really boring when you get nothing but stupid **** ammo packs in PSP

Modifié par shooterking07, 12 mars 2013 - 05:32 .

[EdAndEinBebop]

you must be a very lucky person. never happened to me. the luckiest i ever got was 2 URs out of 1.5 mln, and it only happened once.

ouch! sorry to hear that. I remember one night when the average UR rate was like one very three psp and I stayed up waaaay past bed time thats probably how I maxed out so quickly. Also I saved about 9 mil creds just before the release of the latest DLC so I bought 90 psp right after I installed it. I think I got about 15 URs plus characters and all the rares

[Oseye]

Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

For one Magic has a billion times more "items" which are all much more interesting. For two: The Magic equivilent of the ME3 store for people like me would be buying a $50 Magic card pack and only getting cards that disolve upon use (aka IV consumables).

Pretend they're all Chaos Orbs.

[Leeeeeroy jenkins]

Oseye wrote...

Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

For one Magic has a billion times more "items" which are all much more interesting. For two: The Magic equivilent of the ME3 store for people like me would be buying a $50 Magic card pack and only getting cards that disolve upon use (aka IV consumables).

Pretend they're all Chaos Orbs.

I've only recently started playing magic and my deck consists of what I could scrounge out of a few hundred leftover cards (though I'm happy/proud of what I was able to make), so I don't know what Chaos Orbs are xp. 

[Oseye]

Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

Oseye wrote...

Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

For one Magic has a billion times more "items" which are all much more interesting. For two: The Magic equivilent of the ME3 store for people like me would be buying a $50 Magic card pack and only getting cards that disolve upon use (aka IV consumables).

Pretend they're all Chaos Orbs.

I've only recently started playing magic and my deck consists of what I could scrounge out of a few hundred leftover cards (though I'm happy/proud of what I was able to make), so I don't know what Chaos Orbs are xp. 

Shamelessly copy pasted from gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx



Card Text:

http://gatherer.wiza...e=1&type=symbol, http://gatherer.wiza...ap&type=symbol:
If Chaos Orb is on the battlefield, flip Chaos Orb onto the battlefield
from a height of at least one foot. If Chaos Orb turns over completely
at least once during the flip, destroy all permanents it touches. Then
destroy Chaos Orb.


"According
to an urban legend, a tournament player once tore his copy to pieces
and spread the pieces over his opponent's cards, destroying all of them.
His opponent promptly called a judge and had him disqualified for only
having 59 cards left in his deck.
"

[sliven020]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I like how people think making an expensive pack dedicated to URs somehow undermines the fact that they are "ultra rare," but we have dedicated packs that have 2 guaranteed "rare" cards. Don't use verbiage to justify that argument.

Secondly, how is it unfair to people that played 800+ and maxed their manifest? What's unfair is that I will spend millions and millions of credits and get NOTHING in return.

The UR drop system is currently BS. I've spent more than 13M credits since Reckoning, and still don't have a damned Lancer. Meanwhile, I have seen people with less than 200 challenge points with a Lancer. How is that fair? Did they somehow earn it more that I did? It's BS.

+1,000,000,000,000,000

[Lukeman1884]

Oseye wrote...

Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

Oseye wrote...

Leeeeeroy jenkins wrote...

Volkai7 wrote...

This is a want, not a need.

Not all of us want this.

I am not interested in this. The RNG store's packs, with some guaranteed rares but no guaranteed URs, is similar to opening a pack or packs of Magic cards, where a pack of 15 cards guarantees 1 Rare, 3 Uncommons, and 10 Commons, with a chance of a Mythic Rare, and also a chance of a foil card.

There is fun in finding out what you get.

For one Magic has a billion times more "items" which are all much more interesting. For two: The Magic equivilent of the ME3 store for people like me would be buying a $50 Magic card pack and only getting cards that disolve upon use (aka IV consumables).

Pretend they're all Chaos Orbs.

I've only recently started playing magic and my deck consists of what I could scrounge out of a few hundred leftover cards (though I'm happy/proud of what I was able to make), so I don't know what Chaos Orbs are xp. 

Shamelessly copy pasted from gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx



Card Text:

http://gatherer.wiza...e=1&type=symbol, http://gatherer.wiza...ap&type=symbol:
If Chaos Orb is on the battlefield, flip Chaos Orb onto the battlefield
from a height of at least one foot. If Chaos Orb turns over completely
at least once during the flip, destroy all permanents it touches. Then
destroy Chaos Orb.


"According
to an urban legend, a tournament player once tore his copy to pieces
and spread the pieces over his opponent's cards, destroying all of them.
His opponent promptly called a judge and had him disqualified for only
having 59 cards left in his deck.
"

And thus this card was born

On Topic: While I don't think a UR pack is a good idea, I DO think that those with maxed manifests should have a set chance for their Rare to be a UR when opening PSPs, instead of just giving them consumables, on top of the standard UR chance.

Modifié par Lukeman1884, 12 mars 2013 - 06:05 .