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[Tau22]

I'd say the Old Gods were just interpreted as dragon-like by the Tevinters and they just thought it was an awesome idea and just stuck with it.

You have to admit, they look pretty dashing.

[thegreateski]

Tau22 wrote...

I'd say the Old Gods were just interpreted as dragon-like by the Tevinters and they just thought it was an awesome idea and just stuck with it.
You have to admit, they look pretty dashing.

Very.

[RangerSG]

The Tevinters worshiped dragons, we know that from the lore. So it's natural that the "old gods" take dragon form in their return. It's the form that would most inspire awe. Whether they were truly "gods" or not is irrelevant, they were certainly high tier spirits or demons who took forms the Tevinter would worship.

[elys]

The dragons are indeed godly by nature. They are the descendants of the god Zilla.

[Popemaster123]

Kepha wrote...

I believe all the of Old Gods were "male". In that is how they were referred to in lore, but who knows if anybody ever actually did a gender check.

Thats probably cuz if you tried to check and it was male you'd get b***h-slapped by a certain part of the dragon, which may be a little uncomfortable.....

[RangerSG]

elys wrote...

The dragons are indeed godly by nature. They are the descendants of the god Zilla.

"History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man...."

[Maria Caliban]

elys wrote...

The dragons are indeed godly by nature. They are the descendants of the god Zilla.

/facepalm

Pun hell. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

[LadyVaJedi]

Now here is a thought a cross-dressing old-god

[beelzeybob]

Time 2 be a killjoy (Found a 2nd "old god" statue at the start of the Dead Trenches just now)




Looks like that one is not unique.

[Bootsykk]

The Archdemon, being a demon, of course, technically isn't a subspecies of a dragon.

[Maria Caliban]

13eelzebub wrote...

Time 2 be a killjoy (Found a 2nd "old god" statue at the start of the Dead Trenches just now)



Looks like that one is not unique.

Um... It's the exact same statue of a barefoot man with a mirror in his hand. They only deify that one statue.

Juneya wrote...

The Archdemon, being a demon, of course, technically isn't a subspecies of a dragon.

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

[wwwwowwww]

Instead of Arch Demons I just call them Lady Gaga's

[Bootsykk]

Maria Caliban wrote...

13eelzebub wrote...

Time 2 be a killjoy (Found a 2nd "old god" statue at the start of the Dead Trenches just now)



Looks like that one is not unique.

Um... It's the exact same statue of a barefoot man with a mirror in his hand. They only deify that one statue.

Juneya wrote...

The Archdemon, being a demon, of course, technically isn't a subspecies of a dragon.

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

Oh, sorry. I'm being completely serious. xD

Unless there is a codex somewhere stating that the old gods literally had children (something like in greek mythology) then the archdemon is not a dragon at all. It merely takes on the appearance of a dragon.

What I'm trying to say is that archdemons, like the darkspawn, are twisted reflections conformed to human fear and sin. Naturally, it would take on the appearance of a high dragon, because high dragons are considered the most frightening and powerful creatures to face.

EDIT: Also; who's to say that the archdemon WASN'T male? What I'm trying to say is that, regardless of appearance, either gender could make perfect sense.

Modifié par Juneya, 15 janvier 2010 - 01:51 .

[MEUTRIERE]

Maria Caliban wrote...

You can see statues of the archdemon in humanoid form in the Deep Roads where the darkspawn has set up camps. He's the guy with wings and an animal skull as a helmet.

Nay.  From how I understand it, the darkspawn dress human statues up as the Archdemon in a sort of reverence to their god.  Assuming darkspawn have any feelings at all, it could also be that they see other races with contempt, and thus adorn the statues to their own liking in order to 'fix' them.  Because they deify the Archdemon and it is a dragon, they convert human statues into one of their god by adding dragon-like wings and head.

-MILD RTO SPOILERS?-
Also, if you've played RtO, then you'll see another example of this conversion in a more serious form, where the darkspawn have taken another revered human image and changed it to their liking. 

[Maria Caliban]

Juneya wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Juneya wrote...

The Archdemon, being a demon, of course, technically isn't a subspecies of a dragon.

I can't tell if you're serious or not.

Oh, sorry. I'm being completely serious. xD

Sorry for doubting you.

Unless there is a codex somewhere stating that the old gods literally had children (something like in greek mythology) then the archdemon is not a dragon at all. It merely takes on the appearance of a dragon.

No one really knows what the archdemon is. Some people believe they're just corrupted high dragons. Some believe that they're the Old Gods, which were *not* spirits.

What they were is anyone's guess, but we have developer confirmation that they're not spirits of the Fade.

EDIT: Also; who's to say that the archdemon WASN'T male? What I'm trying to say is that, regardless of appearance, either gender could make perfect sense.

This is correct. And there's only one way to tell: someone's going to have look between its legs during the next Blight.

[Curlain]

Maria Caliban wrote...


This is correct. And there's only one way to tell: someone's going to have look between its legs during the next Blight.

So that's why Riordan decided to to fall off the Archdemon's back, so he take a look and find out the truth, his curiosity was just to much to bear, he had to know the truth 

[thegreateski]

Curlain wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...


This is correct. And there's only one way to tell: someone's going to have look between its legs during the next Blight.

So that's why Riordan decided to to fall off the Archdemon's back, so he take a look and find out the truth, his curiosity was just to much to bear, he had to know the truth 

Riordan jumps from the Archdemons back to its wing! barely escaping from being crushed like a grape . . . but something was nagging at his mind, something that threatened to drive him insane . . .

Was the Archdemon a boy or a girl dragon?

and so Riordan slid off the Dragon's wing, and as he fell through the air he looked up at the Archdemon hoping to get an answer to his final question. He looked up . . . and screamed in horror.
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Modifié par thegreateski, 15 janvier 2010 - 04:57 .

[Erakleitos]

Why it's so obvious that genlocks made them? If they are *old* gods maybe they had *old* normal followers...

[likeorasgod]

Juneya wrote...

The Archdemon, being a demon, of course, technically isn't a subspecies of a dragon.

The way I see it is that such a powerfull spirit/demon as the old gods might of been, they would only take on a body of something worth there pressence.....a HIGH DRAGON.  Nothing else was worth there time.

Than again what about Sandle?  I think there is something odd about that boy, specialy when you find him during the final fight.

Oh and isn't it said some where that this Archdemon was of the old god of beauty?  Which would explain the defiled statues?

[Maximus741000]

What if the archdemon is a different species of dragon and not the same as the High Dragons? At least assuming the chantry's teachings of whta the old gods were are false.



Probably some ancient species of dragon capable of resting beneath the earth for thousands of years in hibernation, and intelligence enough to sway entire peoples. Because, physically there are plenty of differences between high dragons and archdemons, the head of the archdemon has more horns, a clubbed tail, and it's breath appears to be raw magic not fire.



Just as well, there is still the question of how regular dragons are able to breed, especially when the male of the species is several times smaller than the female

[Herr Uhl]

Maximus741000 wrote...
Just as well, there is still the question of how regular dragons are able to breed, especially when the male of the species is several times smaller than the female

Ask mantises and spiders.

[Curlain]

It's also possible that mating takes place largely while the female are still in their dragon stage (as opposed to the larger High Dragon form they become when they actually lay their eggs) at which point their are the same size as Drakes (apart from having wings). On the other hand like Herr Uhi said, among spiders and the like females a significantly larger then their male counterparts (though that isn't the case among reptiles which dragons seem to be, but then their a fantasy creature, so the features of reptiles in our world don't really apply to them, after all they have no trouble living in cold climates in DA, and they breath fire of course ;-))

[Maximus741000]

That may well be so, but I hoped for a version of dragon that was basically a male dragon counterpart to the high dragon. I mentioned a monster called a Great Wyrm, which was more or less the same size as a high dragon, but instead of wings and flight, he could (they are all male) burrow under opponents and re-emerge underneath them, and his back is heavily armoured with massive spurs and spines to cover his bulky body.

[MadamCaptain]

Kepha wrote...

I believe all the of Old Gods were "male". In that is how they were referred to in lore, but who knows if anybody ever actually did a gender check.

They tried, but ended up getting swallowed up by the dragon's gigantic demonic genitalia... om nom nom nom. 

[artifact]

For those of you that missed it (and I missed them all) there are four more of those sickle statues in the Kothari wilds before Ostagar (just across the wooden bridge). Same barefoot god with the mirror, same 'hat', same 'wings'. So its not just the Dark Roads ones that do this. You can also walk around them 360 degrees.

(On PS3 so no screenshots)

Modifié par artifact, 20 janvier 2010 - 03:10 .