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#1
Brass_Buckles

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A lot of people really don't want to let Shepard go.

I'm fine with it.  I wish I could let my Shepards go on a better, more victorious note, but that gets into the Great Ending Debate and I have no desire to do that in this thread.

The thing is, if we kept having more games starring Shepard, even if Bioware did a 180 and decided, "Hey, Mass Effect just isn't Mass Effect without more Shepard," eventually, wouldn't we all get tired of it?  A lot of younger players will move on to different things--many will stop gaming altogether.  Those of us who are more mature may be entrenched with family life or real-life issues that keep us away from games.  And interests can change, no matter your age.

Think of it like any number of series movies you've seen.  After a while, the ideas get stale and old, and even though you may love it for the nostalgia, you're well aware it's just not good anymore.  It lacks the charm or the poignancy or the depth of the original.  It becomes formulaic and you become jaded as an audience.

That's how I think it would go if we had too many Shepard games.  You'd have the same squad, unless Bioware decided to kill someone most players love.  You'd have the same Shepard.  You'd be doing similar missions against similar enemies with similar goals.  And always, always that ending--defeating the Reaper threat--would loom ahead.

Do I think Mass Effect could have survived longer than 3 games?  Indeed I do.  I would have given it 4-5 games, without becoming too stale for anyone to care.  Maybe having a few extra games between ME1 and ME3, plotwise, would have been beneficial.  Other ways could have been devised to beat the Reapers, as well as providing a more polished overall gaming experience in the end.

But ME3 was the end, and even though I didn't like how it ended, I enjoyed the main part of the game.  So I can play through and not replay the ending.  I can enjoy that Citadel DLC that makes me giggle at the cast's dialogue.  Most importantly, I have to let go of Shepard.  There's only one way Shepard could survive, but we already know that Shepard won't be reappearing.  Future games will be too far in the past or future, or too far away, for Shepard to do so much as make a cameo appearance (unless we end up playing Shepard's clone).

And I'm okay with letting go of Shepard.  I wish we could've enjoyed more adventures on the Normandy, explored more amazing places... but the curtain has closed.  Time to go see another movie, play another game, read another book.  And in a few years, there will be a new protagonist whose boots we can yank on and trot around with, eavesdropping on random strangers on the Citadel, or wherever else we may find ourselves.  I don't know what the future will bring, but I'm hoping it will be at least as good as what we've already enjoyed.  And by then, we'll be ready for more, without risking getting tired of it all.

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I really don't want to Let Shep and Co. go either. Mass Effect truly is special. I know that's cliche. But it is. Despite all the controversy the ending caused and it's encompassing rage, ME3 is a great game.

As far as the series, well I make it no secret that I hold it as easily the greatest trilogy in gaming history. And ME2 is my favrorite game, and in my opinion one of if not the greatest game of all time.

I can't let go. I tell myself- step away from BSN and ME and let it fizzle out. But I can't. I'm not ready.

It's strange in a way, that a fictional universe of polygons can have a profound impact on one's life. But ME has for me.

And for that, I will ALWAYS respect BioWare.

Now, trusting them? That's another story.

But for now, much respect BioWare.... Much.

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For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.

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NeonFlux117

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PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.


Yes. This. All of it. 

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I just love Shepard and the crew and I really really don't want to let them go. There's a LOT more room there before Shepard would get 'old and boring'. Living with a game programmer I can see why the team on Shepard's story might need a break, working on the same game for so long they would certainly have earned a break to move on to a different game for a while. This shouldn't have to be the end of Sheps story though. I really really don't want it to be. :(

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I'll keep him just like I'm keeping my cash... Close to my heart and far away from Bioware :P

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I think Bioware may have lost sight that all the core of Mass Effect really was and the root off fans attachment was Shepard travelling the galaxy on a ship with a bunch of mates. They somewhat fixed it with the EC and Citadel DLC but overall are hamstrung by the ending debacle.

Hopefully they remember this for the next ME game and DAI

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I'm fine with ending it. I'm going to replay the trilogy one or two more times to refine the story of my main Shepards now that I know the complete story, but I wouldn't want Shepard in more games. In new games set in the MEU, I want a different protagonist with a different background because I wasn't so enamored with all that military stuff in the first place.

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Shepard was a creation of bioware, but like Spartas Husky said. I'll keep him close to my heart.

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PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.



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NeonFlux117 wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.


Yes. This. All of it. 


Amen.

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Mumba1511 wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.





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NeonFlux117

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This thread needs more views and comments. Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels so passionately about Mass Effect.

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Shepard's story is done. Its played out. It was a helluva ride, and I loved most of it. I'll look back on it fondly, and maybe even do a few more playthroughs. But like the Bhaalchild, like Revan and any number of BioWare characters, there is a definitive end to his arc. I am OK with letting him/her go.

Modifié par HolyAvenger, 12 mars 2013 - 09:58 .


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Titus Thongger

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"I can move on now."

Garrus Vakarian.

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Commander Castillo

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The day I let go Shepard is the day I lose a part of my soul...but hey that might just be me being overdramatic.

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NeonFlux117 wrote...

This thread needs more views and comments. Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels so passionately about Mass Effect.


Me too. It feels wrong somehow to care that much about characters but I guess that's what good stories do! ( good minus 10 mins anyhow ),

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mavqt wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.




Yep....this x10.

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Finishing the game, though, that's not the hard part.

It's letting go.

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Arcian wrote...

Finishing the game, though, that's not the hard part.

It's letting go.


Im having trouble with both right now. Im stallin gon the Citadel DLC party and crew invites beucase I know it's going to be the last new content with them. Im actually seriously considering stopping right there and doing other play throughs *first* and stalling even longer on that, so I have something to look forward to still. Sad really lol

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My Shepard is the goddess of the galaxy, but she deserves her rest. I never let go of any experience, they always remain in my heart. Whenever I'm struggling at something I'll be remembering Elizabeth Shepard who got right up in a Yahg's face, scary beasts that they are, and punched his lights out with a courageous fist. Suddenly my issue becomes more trivial and I get the drive to overcome my issue.

Yes, I am that kind of person. More people should take the lessons they get from fiction to heart. It's genuinely looked down upon, but fiction is a powerful tool to shape the mind in a positive way.

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Don't worry he'll be back after Shepless ME4 flops.

It's frankly absurd, who kills of their main character in a successful series?

Shepard IS the face of Mass Effect.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 12 mars 2013 - 10:41 .


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Hexley UK wrote...

Don't worry he'll be back after Shepless ME4 flops.

It's frankly absurd, who kills of their main character in a successful series?

Shepard IS the face of Mass Effect.


Yeah, I have my own theories about Shep not being done yet, but we will just have to wait and see! I'm not getting my hopes up though because past experiences has taught me not to do that now. :blush:

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I'm looking forward to a new game set in the Mass Effect universe with a fresh pc and new companions. Shepard and crew was great, but the story is done. I want to be surprised again like I was when I first played Mass Effect 1. The same old characters can't do that.

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I'm on the fence with what the OP is saying. I walked into ME3 knowing that this was the last ride for me with my Shepard. I listened when Bioware said that ME3 was the end of his story. I was sad that i'd have to say good bye to him but i was ready to do so. I just feel that the endng goes completley against the core plotliine for the Me universe and if thats how they want me to say goodbye to Shepard that way. Then i'd rather refuse it and make my own ending that fits with the ME universe. I would have been fine if they had a 'reapers win' ending in the release but they followed the story cannon that 'the hero must die at the end'. In a universe where they made clear in the first two games that a cannon ending is out of the question the thirds ending was just plain out bad.


I'm not trying to troll this post or ****** anyone off, i'm just letting you guys know my opinion on the matter. If you guys agree with me then thanks. If not, then just ignore my post and continue with your postings.