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[KLGChaos]

I agree that they did a great job making Shep an extension of the player. I felt it through the first game and second games quite thoroughly. Then the third game took him out of my hands and completely killed that with the ending. :\\

Bioware has always been great at writing characters. It's just too bad they've gotten progressively worse at writing stories to suit all the players they want to please. Sadly, most of my memories of my Shepard will be of failed narrative and many broken promises.

Modifié par KLGChaos, 12 mars 2013 - 04:50 .

[skergx120]

o Ventus wrote...

More Shepard =/= boring.

Case in point, Master Chief.

That's a pretty odd comparision. They brought Chief back because halo games were sort of flopping after Halo 3. They never bothered even replacing Master Chief.

Besides, In my opinion, as successful as the halo series is -- Master Chief fills the role of protaganist different to that of Shepard in video game history. It's like comparing Kratos to Link -- (I feel like i'm gonna get flamed for that one.) 

HolyAvenger wrote...

Imagine coming onboard SSV Shepard at some point

Hmm.. Commanding a ship in Shepards honor? That would be something :happy:

[JC1987]

i'd be all for a new mass effect with new hero aslong as it isn't as buggy/glitchy as mass effect 3 and the animations are top notch!

[ThatDancingTurian]

Don't get me wrong, I love my Shepard. But to be honest, I was never as connected to Shepard as I was the crew. My Shepard has been slipping away with each installment, going from a diplomatic pro-alien, "speak softly and carry a big stick" type of woman to... what we got in ME3, when auto-dialogue took her over and made her almost someone else entirely, someone who was only interested in Earth, a planet she had never even visited. It's very, very easy for me to let her go.

Now for the squad and the Normandy? That's going to be the tough part. But the last thing I want to see is another game or tie-in adding in the squadmates in terrible cameos as a cheap ploy to get our attention. Better to let them live on in our imaginations than canonize their futures in an unsatisfactory way simply to suit the new PC and story. I still haven't forgiven the DA team for what they did to Zevran.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 12 mars 2013 - 05:07 .

[JamieCOTC]

Nearly 45 years after it was canceled Star Trek:TOS is still being watched and discovered. I remember loving it as a kid, finding new friends through it in college and eventually moving on, but it always remained a part of my life, even if just a little. The same goes for Shepard and co, probably even more so since it was interactive. Certainly I will move on, but Shepard will always be there in the background, she will always be a part of me, even if just a little.

[N7L4D]

Shut it cabron! Shepard! She's my FU ckin hero!

[skergx120]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Nearly 45 years after it was canceled Star Trek:TOS is still being watched and discovered. I remember loving it as a kid, finding new friends through it in college and eventually moving on, but it always remained a part of my life, even if just a little. The same goes for Shepard and co, probably even more so since it was interactive. Certainly I will move on, but Shepard will always be there in the background, she will always be a part of me, even if just a little.

Well said, spoken like a true fan.

[Ananka]

I agree that it would get old with time. I don't want an endless amount of ME games. It's just that I've come to care about the characters and wish it didn't have to end. I also feel like I'm lacking a sense of closure.

My Shepard is still, alive, though. She woke up on Earth after having destroyed the Reapers, was celebrated as a hero and now she, Kaidan and Garrus are sitting on some tropical beach somewhere while Mordin is studying seashells.

Modifié par Annaka, 12 mars 2013 - 05:44 .

[darthnick427]

PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.

Indeed

[Calibrations52]

PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.

My feelings exactly

[mereck7980]

PainCakesx wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.

Very well stated.  

[cactusberry]

As others have stated, I love Shepard. The Citadel DLC allowed me to say goodbye on a positive note.

Exceptforfanfictionlolwut.

[WarGriffin]

Honestly... I had gotten tired of Shepard, I liked the company around Shepard.

Shepard had stopped being a player avatar and was pretty much whatever the Writers wanted them to be. Hence why Shepard comes off so single minded in thier quest to save earth -See this Primarch, It's TEN TIMES WORSE! on Earth- hell you could argue the Shpard you were in Me1 was gone the moment you were rebuilt in Lazarus.

The people in the ME verse, I'd like to see again like Garrus, Wrex and Tali -Owe me a maskless Tali not a cost cutting measure you finks-... but Shepard was a good player vessel, but like all good ships... it's time to put them to harbor.

[Only-Twin]

Every character has to go at some point, but Shepard and his squad are obviously beloved characters, and I think they still have life in them. Just because the war ends doesn't mean the characters need to be retired for good.

I say keep them going and finish their stories. Imagine if Kojima had just retired Solid Snake after a game or two.

[WarChicken78]

It's like reaching the end of a good series of books. One where you could really identify with the character and now it's over. It's hard to move on. But there is a good side to it, as well. Bioware created a fantastic universe, and while the ME series is over, the Universe isn't dead. There will be future games for it, and if Bioware or EA doesn't botch it, there will be more to come.
Without shepard, sure, but at least in that great scenario.

[Only-Twin]

Adding to that, changing the characters would feel like rebooting the entire series. Shepard, Liara, Garrus, Tali... They ARE Mass Effect. Without them, I would feel like I was playing a spin-off.

Imagine playing Uncharted without Nathan Drake. It wouldn't feel right. 

Modifié par Only-Twin, 12 mars 2013 - 07:29 .

[Calibrations Expert]

My hope is that Control endings have Shepard as the Reapers in the next game. They will be around forever, so they will as long as ME(4) takes place in the future and in the galaxy.

And it was set up that way too, as Reaper Shepard says Shepard's past choices will guide him, meaning he's to choose Paragon or Renegade based on what real Shepard did. Meaning you can watch the Reaper Shep make choices and not feel like you the player should have done it.

[HolyAvenger]

Calibrations Expert wrote...

My hope is that Control endings have Shepard as the Reapers in the next game. They will be around forever, so they will as long as ME(4) takes place in the future and in the galaxy.

And it was set up that way too, as Reaper Shepard says Shepard's past choices will guide him, meaning he's to choose Paragon or Renegade based on what real Shepard did. Meaning you can watch the Reaper Shep make choices and not feel like you the player should have done it.

 

I really don't understand how they can pick one of the endings as canonical:mellow:

[Zjarcal]

Eh, I can replay the series anytime I feel the need for a Shepard and crew fix, to me there's no "letting go" really.

Friends was cancelled 9 years ago and I still watch it almost every week. Same goes for Seinfeld and that was cancelled like 15 years ago.

We don't have to let go of the things we love, it's just a matter of accepting there will be no new content.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 12 mars 2013 - 07:48 .

[tracer667]

mereck7980 wrote...

For me, Shepard is more than a character but an extension of myself. The characters who I indirectly interact with seem more real than just a bundle of polygons. That and his arguably inconclusive character arc is why he's difficult for me to let go of (without sounding overly sentimental). I assume many feel similarly.

Exactly.

I was completely unprepared for how attached I would become to Shepard and so many of the characters in ME.  And I was unprepared for how shaken I would be when they were ripped away.  It was only after it was done that I started mourning my loss.  And I didn't understand why.  Only after about a week of crying did I realize that this game, these people, had become so important to me, that I felt this huge hole open up inside me.  This has nothing to do with the ending, I might have felt the same way with a "happy" ending but knowing that it was the end of the series.  In fact, the Citadel DLC has become "my" ending, and yet, I still feel loss.

But I will keep them close to me. 

Sherpard is my hero and I will think of her when I need guidance.  (Left trigger!)  Liara is my love (sorry, wifey) and I will think of her when I need wisdom.  And I know Garrus will always be right behind me, I think of him when I need strength.  These people will always be with me, I can't let go or I would lose part of myself.

[Phobius9]

Whilst I admit that it's hard to imagine a game in the mass effect universe without Shepard and co, I felt much the same way about BioShock 2. I couldn't work or how they were going to pull off a sequel considering how the first finished, or how they could revisit the setting whilst still keeping things fresh. But they did and I loved it. I'm sure there must be other examples out there to. My point is that we could all be coming to these forums in however many years time and saying "I can't believe I ever thought mass effect couldn't work without Shepard. This new guy/girl is brilliant!”.

It's worth considering that the next game might be a complete departure from the previous trilogy. Might be a space sim in an Exile style, or an RTS or something. All this talk of a new protagonist might be a moot point....

[dversion]

I'm pretty excited to have a brand new character with brand new companions and stories to tell.

[LieutenantSarcasm]

Only-Twin wrote...

Adding to that, changing the characters would feel like rebooting the entire series. Shepard, Liara, Garrus, Tali... They ARE Mass Effect. Without them, I would feel like I was playing a spin-off.

Imagine playing Uncharted without Nathan Drake. It wouldn't feel right. 

Ding ding ding. This, so very much.

[Someone With Mass]

This is why I don't want the next game to just pretend that the trilogy doesn't exist.

They could really make use of people's saves in that case to have various references (since I doubt the galaxy will forget the guy who saved it anytime soon) to Shepard & Co in various locations.