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[Emzamination]

Bioware, please stop trying to turn my protagonist into a prodigy before their time and before I'm ready. I appreciate the self-esteem boost guys, but I need to achieve my own fame and accomplish my own deeds in game. Not sure you're aware, but giving the player character highly accomplished pre-game puts pressure on the player to measure up to a preset status & goals. This can't continue, and it has to stop. I mean you guys do this in every single game.

• Baldurs gate: You start as the chosen god child, who also happens to be gorions most skilled apprentice.
• Baldurs gate 2: You're a famous hero, the only one in all the world who can vanquish irenicus and the destined god to inherit your fathers throne.
• Never winter nights: You're the top recruit in the academy, favored by the headmistress.
• Swkotor: Granted it's not revealed till near end, but eventually you find out all along you're the most beloved, cunning and all powerful jedi & sith lord in history.
• Jade empire: You're master lees most skilled apprentice.
• Mass effect: You're the most skilled soldier in the alliance and the best all of earth has to offer.

Dragon Age origins:

•  Human noble - You're the favored child and one of the most skilled warrior/rogue people have ever seen.
• Dalish elf - Your parents were dalish royalty and you're the keepers favourite
• city elf - Your mother was an elite warrior/rogue and now you're regarded as such because she's pass her skills on to you.
• Mage - You're irvings star apprentice and one of the most gifted mages the tower has ever seen.

Dragon age 2: To the naked eye, hawke may look like a blank slate who comes from horrible origins, but flip open that codex, and you find out hawke is already a highly gifted mage/warrior/rogue, the family favourite and bread winner.

Bioware Enough!  Please, no more pats on the head for things I've never done and no more being born special. I want to start off as plain nobody jane with no special history like I can in skyrim and fallout. I'll become the suma-******-laude of thedas eventually, but in da3 I need to do it on my time and on my terms, through my own acomplishments.

[Emzamination]

krul2k wrote...

for a hero to be a hero there has to be a spark of something great in them, something that makes them stand out an something that stands them above your ordinary ppl

if there aint something "special" about your character then sorry but your just some other ordinary bum an not worthy of a game dedicated to you

The elder scrolls says hello.

[grumpymooselion]

In DA3 you will start out as a crippled, nonsense babbling moron without a penny or lick of training to your name. The largest upgrade in combat ability you will get is a tough stick to use in place of your flailing limbs from prior in the game. You will eventually upgrade from a dirty loincloth to a muck soaked potato sack. As a mage your ultimate spell will be to control the lice infestation scouring your scalp and send them out to slightly annoy your enemies,.

Your title shall be S/He who Procreates with Nugs, with the family name Nuglover because the forum filter wouldn't allow for the more humorous alternative. All your companions will be better than you, and your enemies. Even the bum in the alley.

Also your toe and fingernails are yellowed, curled and chipped. Let's not even get into the issues with your teeth. And your breath? Forget about any love interest that isn't a Nug, your breath could peal paint.

[thats1evildude]

Emzamination wrote...

The elder scrolls says hello.

Like Skyrim, where the hero was just some nobody who happened to be born with the blood and soul of a dragon?

Modifié par thats1evildude, 12 mars 2013 - 05:18 .

[Wulfram]

I think it makes more sense if the PC starts out recognised as pretty special. Particularly if they're going to be placed as leader of a party fairly soon.

And really, the gameplay is inevitably going to have you kill a few dozen people in the first half hour. So either you're pretty damn good or those guys must really suck.

[Emzamination]

Janan Pacha wrote...

In DA3 you will start out as a crippled, nonsense babbling moron without a penny or lick of training to your name. The largest upgrade in combat ability you will get is a tough stick to use in place of your flailing limbs from prior in the game. You will eventually upgrade from a dirty loincloth to a muck soaked potato sack. As a mage your ultimate spell will be to control the lice infestation scouring your scalp and send them out to slightly annoy your enemies,.

Your title shall be S/He who Procreates with Nugs, with the family name Nuglover because the forum filter wouldn't allow for the more humorous alternative. All your companions will be better than you, and your enemies. Even the bum in the alley.

Also your toe and fingernails are yellowed, curled and chipped. Let's not even get into the issues with your teeth. And your breath? Forget about any love interest that isn't a Nug, your breath could peal paint.

Good to know if one isn't the star prodigy, they can pass average and head straight to societal dreg.

[Shevy]

Starting as a nobody without any fighting skills and by ending the opening scene u killed ~ 50 enemies? Not very believable.

Some background is necessary, otherwise the game has to start veeeeery slowly, including countless hours of fighting against a training dummy and so on. And I don't think a game in our time will start this way.

[Emzamination]

thats1evildude wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

The elder scrolls says hello.

Like Skyrim, where the hero was just some nobody who happened to be born with the blood and soul of a dragon?

Incorrect. That wasn't pre-history. That power unlocks after killing the dragon.

[Emzamination]

EntropicAngel wrote...

You're wrong about Mass Effect, and Dragon Age (both games).

Nope.

[Masha Potato]

Emzamination wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

You're wrong about Mass Effect, and Dragon Age (both games).

Nope.

Yep.

Modifié par Masha Potato, 12 mars 2013 - 05:24 .

[Realmzmaster]

Emzamination wrote...

krul2k wrote...

for a hero to be a hero there has to be a spark of something great in them, something that makes them stand out an something that stands them above your ordinary ppl

if there aint something "special" about your character then sorry but your just some other ordinary bum an not worthy of a game dedicated to you

The elder scrolls says hello.

TES games also have you being some one out of the ordinary.
In Skyrim the character is the Dragon Born
In Oblivion the character is saved by the Emperor because he has seen him in a dream.
In Morrowind the chatacter is the Nerevaine.

So the character in TES games is not some peon even if he starts as a prisoner.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 12 mars 2013 - 05:25 .

[Emzamination]

Wulfram wrote...

I think it makes more sense if the PC starts out recognised as pretty special. Particularly if they're going to be placed as leader of a party fairly soon.

And really, the gameplay is inevitably going to have you kill a few dozen people in the first half hour. So either you're pretty damn good or those guys must really suck.

It would make more sense for the pc to start off as average and work their way up to being all-powerful, rather than starting out as the most gifted being in the universe. It's more rewarding when one earns their skill and achievements rather then having them handed down on a golden platter.

[Emzamination]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Incorrect. That wasn't pre-history. That power unlocks after killing the dragon.

It actually was pre-history, because it was still your innate, inborn power. That dragon didn't suddenly dub you "dragonborn" and give you your dragon soul when you killed it--you were born with that once-in-lifetimes gift.

Pre-history.

So you started out being able to shout and absorb dragon souls? Yeah, didn't think so.

[Captain Crash]

thats1evildude wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

The elder scrolls says hello.

Like Skyrim, where the hero was just some nobody who happened to be born with the blood and soul of a dragon?

Or Oblivion where you just happen to appear in a Emperors prophecy...

The expantion pack of Knights of the Nine even went so far into saying you were blessed by the gods.

[thepringle]

Looks like this is going to happen in DA3, since the main character will be the Grand Inquisitor, or something along those lines.