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Coffee Culture wrote...

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Show me the video, then. 


Here.

Well that looks easy for them. They have maxed weapons and high-level equipment.

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BarrettXM wrote...

modok8 wrote...

BarrettXM wrote...

Like I said, I, unfortunately, don't have any of the powerful weapons than can just mow down enemies. 


If you don't have all the weapons you shouldn't be making sweeping generalizations about how there aren't any good weapons in the game.

It just feels like there isn't any good weapons because all the ones I have are mostly not good enough for my playstyle.


that wasn't your inital post
your issue has to do with the ammount of time you've put in and the difficulty level you are playing
and not with the quality of the weapons available in the game
you have to play to unlock stuff and you have to play gold or platnium to unlock good stuff
if that isn't for you that's cool, but don't blame the game
if you do you can't be supprised people here are going to call you on it

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modok8 wrote...

BarrettXM wrote...

modok8 wrote...

BarrettXM wrote...

Like I said, I, unfortunately, don't have any of the powerful weapons than can just mow down enemies. 


If you don't have all the weapons you shouldn't be making sweeping generalizations about how there aren't any good weapons in the game.

It just feels like there isn't any good weapons because all the ones I have are mostly not good enough for my playstyle.


that wasn't your inital post
your issue has to do with the ammount of time you've put in and the difficulty level you are playing
and not with the quality of the weapons available in the game
you have to play to unlock stuff and you have to play gold or platnium to unlock good stuff
if that isn't for you that's cool, but don't blame the game
if you do you can't be supprised people here are going to call you on it

I do play gold and platinum but I am given unwanted items. Its not likeable.

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BarrettXM wrote...

Coffee Culture wrote...

BarrettXM wrote...

Show me the video, then. 


Here.

Well that looks easy for them. They have maxed weapons and high-level equipment.


It does not take very long at all to max out your common weapons. Also, they are level one so they do not get the weapon bonuses from their passives. If you play with your level 20 kit you should be fine with lower level equipment. Too bad you say you don't want to use it. 

Modifié par Coffee Culture, 16 mars 2013 - 12:47 .


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BarrettXM wrote...

xtorma wrote...

BarrettXM wrote...

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If you are having trouble in bronze, then all the weapons in the universe can't help you. If you are having trouble on a higher difficulty then you need to play bronze to learn.

I have no problem in Bronze or Silver. Just Gold and Platinum. There is a MASSIVE jump between Silver and Gold. 


Your problem is skill based, not weapon based. Great weapons can only supplement a poor skill level a little bit. Certianly not enough for you to make the jump from silver to gold. There are vids of people duoing platinum with avengers.

Bottom line here is that even with a harrier 10, i highly doubt you would be worth anything on gold, if you are not able to contribute with a lesser weapon and the right build.

With the mediocre AI, there doesn't seem to be much skill involved in this game. All you have to do is shoot and avoid enemies. Higher difficulties only increase enemy health, weapon damage and frequency. 


If the ai is mediocre, and no skill is required, then I don't see any problem here. It has already been proven people can complete the highest difficulties with the basic weapons everyone gets at the beginning.

There is a problem here. No matter how skilled you are, you still need high-power weapons to be successful. 


This is false. Skill trumps equipment every time. You may be able to be a little quicker, with a harrier 10, but weapons do not ensure a successful match, skill does. I have stated this already though, and you only seem to read what you want to read.

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BarrettXM wrote...

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I agree that the RNG store can be quite annoying at times, but that
doesn't seem to be the issue here. You can't just walk into a game
like this and expect to be the best without any investment... All you
are doing is coming across like an entitled brat. You didn't even pay
for the multiplayer DLC. 

Unlocking new kits/guns/etc is part of the fun in the game. With games like
Skyrim, you still have to put some effort to get abilities (like
perks at the end of a skill tree) or items (from the end of a quest
line or a boss). ME3 MP is similar to this (but with a little added
zest of RNG). 

You also need to take time to learn the game. If you toss someone who is
not very good into a gold/plat match by themselves, a maxed manifest
will not save them.

My advice to you is to go out and find some friends to play with –
games become a lot more fun, and not just a grind for credits. Try
themed matches or use a randomizer. 

I'm not expecting to be the best without any investment. But it takes an outrageous amout of investment to be worth a damn. I know this game very well. I've played it since it was realeased on 9th March 2012. Probably longer than anyone else here. And finding people to play with is not a good idea since most people I play with are crap and do not follow orders. The only order I ever give out is telling people to move somewhere so that they don't get killed. There is a lot of low-mentality players here.


If you are so much better than everyone else then you shouldn't need to worry about unlocking new weapons then. Problem solved. Care to link us to your manifest? <3

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The biggest problem I have with this multiplayer is how I am denied access to content that I rightfully own.

Wait, what?

BarrettXM wrote...

The new Reckoning DLC looks great. A playable Geth Prime is just awesome. There's lots of other things that I like and haven't unlocked.

So you "rightfully own" a Geth Juggernaut kit?
I was not aware there was a way to purchase that from Bioware. Was it expensive? Can I use it to buy a Scorpion?

No, as far as I know, there is no way to purchase a specific character. So you either got scammed by paying someone who isn't affiliated with Bioware for something they weren't allowed to sell, or you are an entitled crybaby.

Is it annoying that I can't play a Juggernaut, and I'm going to need dozens or hundreds of hours of play before I can grab one? Yeah, sure. Am I denied content I "rightfully own"? Hell no.

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Its very frustrating when I continuously recieve upgrades for weapons, characters, etc. that I don't use. And no-one else feels this?

Almost every player feel this, or at least felt it at some point. However they do not feel entitled to demand everything given to them at once. If you play long enough, you will unlock every non-Ultra-Rare goodies, 100% guaranteed. You can get the same effect by paying ridiculously large sums of money.

BarrettXM wrote...

What's one thing you really want(ed) in multiplayer? Do you have it now? How long did it take for you to get it?

1) An Asari Adept and a Krogan Soldier.
2) Yes, I have both.
3) 3 months for the Adept, 9 for the Krogan Soldier, damn thing just wouldn't drop.

I still eventually got it, and I had lots of fun with the KroSent while waiting for the soldier. Actually, I ended up liking the Sentinel (which only took a couple weeks to grab) more than the Soldier, after trying them both ...

BarrettXM wrote...

Another problem is the woefully low power of pretty much all weapons in the game.

this is my reaction

BarrettXM wrote...

Think about which enemies can kill you quicker than you can kill them. Take into account that there are even more of that enemy plus enemies more powerful than the aforementioned enemy itself. You're probably not gonna survive, even if you're with other people. Unless your weapon can kill twice as fast as all the enemies' weapons except those of boss enemies. Unfortunately, none of the weapons I have can do that in their current status. Its really not fun when I'm shooting enemies with high-power weapons and the health/armour bar is just crawling to 0%. And before anyone tells me to use the Cerberus Harrier or something like that, I don't have any weapons like that. Why's that so? Answer: Read the paragraph above. The simple solution to this would be to decrease health of enemies. And if that would make the game too easy, increase the number of enemies that can be on the ground at once as well.

Or, if you suck that bad, just go back to Bronze. This game is already easy enough, and the weapons overpowering enough.

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I'm almost certain that someone will disagree with me.

I am almost certain that the overwhelming majority of players will disagree with you, actually.

#108
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BarrettXM wrote...

Tecco wrote...

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While i agree that there are alot of garbage weapons in the game, there is afew that are really good even at 1.
Ive seen people do amazing things with various wpns in me3; javeling killstreak, oneshot brutes, and many more, so they can't be THAT bad.
Chances are that if you just started, then even if you were to start with all wpns at 10, you would still fail horribly at the higher difficulties. I remember my own first bronze game, i got pewned instant and felt i would never ever be good enough for silver.
Now i can take a soldier armed only with predator pistol and rock silver.
And if you really dislike ALL the weapons then id advise you to use the power classes.
classes like eg. the classic Human Adept is platinium viable without equipping any weapons at all, and i would be able to take this class to any diff even if my manifast were wiped.

When this is said, id say that if you need all the awesome wpns to have fun, there might be a chance that you even with theese wpns, wont have fun in the game.
I had great fun when i started(eventho i had no wpns), and i still have great fun.

I haven't just started. I've had this game since it was released. Probably longer than anyone else here. I even played the multiplayer demo early via a Battlefield 3 promo.
I don't dislike ALL the weapons but there is only a few weapons I have which I really like. Also, I actually completed my first platinum match with the Human Adept. I got almost no kills but I did manage by spamming Warp or whatever he has. I think the Human Adept has a support role more than anything else.
Like I said, I, unfortunately, don't have any of the powerful weapons than can just mow down enemies. 

Your lack of knowledge betrays your lies.

If you think that the classic human adept is only good for spamming warp and are a support class then you have defently not played Me3 Multiplayer alot.
And lying about it does'nt help your arguments a whole lot.

Eh?
I genuinely completed a platinum match once using a Human Adept. I don't play as the Human Adept so I wouldn't know what it's role actually is. I was very suprised of the effectiveness of him on PLATINUM challenge.

I find it horrific that you take a human adept to a platinium game without knowing his "role"

If you only spammed warp and didnt kill anything on platinium with a human adept then you DID NOT complete a platinium match, then(sorry to say) your TEAM completed it for you.

Also saying you found him EFFECTIVE on platinium and at the same time saying you DIDNT KILL ANYTHING and only spammed warp? How is that effective?

Infact is sounds like a complete lack of understanding of how the power classes should be played.

It also shows that you mess around on a difficulty where you clearly dont belong, wich can explain why you think all the weapons are bad, and why you are having a hard time having fun.

Id, advice you to go back to silver or even bronze, where ever you feel you do best(Where you can actually contribute to the succes of the group).
None of us started on plat and could steamroll everything, enfact most never get past silver. That doesent mean they dont have fun.
Forget about the whole wpn race, and you might start having fun.
Again if you dont have fun without the wpns, then with a 99% probablilty, you wont have fun with them. :unsure:

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Coffee Culture wrote...

If you are so much better than everyone else then you shouldn't need to worry about unlocking new weapons then. Problem solved. Care to link us to your manifest? <3

He linked his manifest on the previous page.

http://social.biowar...XM&platform=ps3

@BarrettXM: You have a Claymore X and you're whining about not having powerful weapons?

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Pyrrhus19 wrote...

Coffee Culture wrote...

If you are so much better than everyone else then you shouldn't need to worry about unlocking new weapons then. Problem solved. Care to link us to your manifest? <3

He linked his manifest on the previous page.

http://social.biowar...XM&platform=ps3

@BarrettXM: You have a Claymore X and you're whining about not having powerful weapons?


Thanks ^_^

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You cannot really complain about not having good guns with just 124 hours. It doesn't matter when you start, play time is what matters. RNG is annoying but everyone has to deal with it.

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What the OP just described is in essence new player frustration, and the guy will not get a break. The community that has been here and had the advantage to play when the factions were not revamped to be harder dont care. Many were able to play and draw from a much smaller pool of weapons early on.

I don't like this game much anymore either. For me it came down to never being able to afford needed consumables like medigels and get any items and characters unlocked. I was trying to spend everything I could to get PSPs to get the bloody characters unlocked from reckoning and I still am missing a few I really want. I even spent 20 bucks buying straight up reserves packs and I got not a single thing I needed/wanted from it.

And I hate the scoreboard in this supposedly coop game it ruins all the coop play with so many chasing the virtual digits rather than help their team or teammates.

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Pyrrhus19 wrote...

Coffee Culture wrote...

If you are so much better than everyone else then you shouldn't need to worry about unlocking new weapons then. Problem solved. Care to link us to your manifest? <3

He linked his manifest on the previous page.

http://social.biowar...XM&platform=ps3

@BarrettXM: You have a Claymore X and you're whining about not having powerful weapons?


After seeing his manifest I am now convinced that this guy either is trolling, or clueless.

Barrett, you have classes that do not need weapons at all.

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Kaelis_33 wrote...

What the OP just described is in essence new player frustration, and the guy will not get a break. The community that has been here and had the advantage to play when the factions were not revamped to be harder dont care. Many were able to play and draw from a much smaller pool of weapons early on.

I don't like this game much anymore either. For me it came down to never being able to afford needed consumables like medigels and get any items and characters unlocked. I was trying to spend everything I could to get PSPs to get the bloody characters unlocked from reckoning and I still am missing a few I really want. I even spent 20 bucks buying straight up reserves packs and I got not a single thing I needed/wanted from it.

And I hate the scoreboard in this supposedly coop game it ruins all the coop play with so many chasing the virtual digits rather than help their team or teammates.


Where i do somewhat agree with the scoreboard often have a negative impact og peoples playstyle, it is the only tool we have to show if people are "bad players"/"in over their head". it is no poblem being last, but if the 3rd placed player have 3-5x your score, then it indicates that you are on a difficulty you shouldnt be.

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BarrettXM wrote...


Another problem is the woefully low power of pretty much all weapons in the game. Think about which enemies can kill you quicker than you can kill them. Take into account that there are even more of that enemy plus enemies more powerful than the aforementioned enemy itself. You're probably not gonna survive, even if you're with other people. Unless your weapon can kill twice as fast as all the enemies' weapons except those of boss enemies. Unfortunately, none of the weapons I have can do that in their current status. Its really not fun when I'm shooting enemies with high-power weapons and the health/armour bar is just crawling to 0%. And before anyone tells me to use the Cerberus Harrier or something like that, I don't have any weapons like that. Why's that so? Answer: Read the paragraph above. The simple solution to this would be to decrease health of enemies. And if that would make the game too easy, increase the number of enemies that can be on the ground at once as well.



So this game is bad because you feel it is too hard for you ?

Baaawww...
Here take this copy of pokemon and go play with your friends.

If you're a boy , grow some balls and stop whinning , if you're a girl , grow some balls and stop whinning.

Kids these days...

#117
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BarrettXM wrote...

Coffee Culture wrote...

BarrettXM wrote...

Show me the video, then. 


Here.

Well that looks easy for them. They have maxed weapons and high-level equipment.



Ummm...I thought using equipment makes no difference? Your argument is invalid, releasing control...

Do you live under a bridge that goats cross by any chance?

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@Pyyrhus19: Hell yeah!

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The thing to remember here is that it is a game. It is meant to be something that is fun. If you don't have fun with it, don't play. It's as simple as that. And no one should give anyone any grief over it if that's how they feel.

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Hopefully you have been buying packs according to unlocking the stuff to go with it... Like buying Recruit Packs till you have all the common stuff, Veteran Packs till you have all the Uncommon weapons/weapon mods and characters before moving up to the Premium Spectre Packs... I had a friend that started buying PSP before she had finished the other stuff and complained about not getting any rares till we explained the shop system and the better/easier way to do it...

I only say this because keep seeing plenty of people with low N7 levels with level 1 rare gear on but do not have any weapon mods or only one to go with it... Does make it easier with mentioned way

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124hrs and you're whining? Cool.

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BarrettXM wrote...

 Months ago, I posted something here about problems in Mass Effect 3's multiplayer. I got quite a lot of hate from people who probably don't even play it and if they do, they'd agree with me now.

The biggest problem I have with this multiplayer is how I am denied access to content that I rightfully own. The new Reckoning DLC looks great. A playable Geth Prime is just awesome. There's lots of other things that I like and haven't unlocked. But I can only get them by being lucky when opening premium spectre packs. Its very frustrating when I continuously recieve upgrades for weapons, characters, etc. that I don't use. And no-one else feels this? Why? What's one thing you really want(ed) in multiplayer? Do you have it now? How long did it take for you to get it? In addition, its equally frustrating when you have weapons that aren't good until they're fully upgraded and characters that would look better with extra customization. Its not fun at all! But this could be remedied by being able to buy items individually like on Team Fortress 2. Except with in-game credits, of course.

Another problem is the woefully low power of pretty much all weapons in the game. Think about which enemies can kill you quicker than you can kill them. Take into account that there are even more of that enemy plus enemies more powerful than the aforementioned enemy itself. You're probably not gonna survive, even if you're with other people. Unless your weapon can kill twice as fast as all the enemies' weapons except those of boss enemies. Unfortunately, none of the weapons I have can do that in their current status. Its really not fun when I'm shooting enemies with high-power weapons and the health/armour bar is just crawling to 0%. And before anyone tells me to use the Cerberus Harrier or something like that, I don't have any weapons like that. Why's that so? Answer: Read the paragraph above. The simple solution to this would be to decrease health of enemies. And if that would make the game too easy, increase the number of enemies that can be on the ground at once as well.

I'm almost certain that someone will disagree with me. But that would probably be the kind of person who thinks that this stuff would actually make the game less fun rather than more fun. I may now start playing less of Mass Effect 3 and more of Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 until I can actually have more fun playing Mass Effect 3. 


you complain that the Store doesnt give you what you want, but in the time you haven't played it, there's been more Free DLC, which means more Characters, Weapons, Mods for Weapons, Gear, etc. when ever a new DLC was announced, i came back onto ME3, stock piled about 3-5 million credits by doing golds and some silvers, so then Day 1 of the new DLC, i have everything unlocked and maxed for Golds, and at least once for UR (unless the RNG Store decides it hates me lol)

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KiraTsukasa wrote...

The thing to remember here is that it is a game. It is meant to be something that is fun. If you don't have fun with it, don't play. It's as simple as that. And no one should give anyone any grief over it if that's how they feel.


The problem is that it IS supposed to be fun....... Who bought the game and thought it would not be fun? Anyone?

I've started a new play through and am rediscovering the fun, but the shadow at the end haunts my every in game waking moment...... when I'm not shooting things or getting to dialogue conversations with two options........ come to think of it I'm not thinking about the ending much at all.

But I know the original ending sucked the fun and replayability out of that installment. And I paid the release day asking price for it, on faith of quality due to previous installment's.

I mean, c'mon. Who buy's a game to NOT play it? Economist POV: The advice not to play the game that a consumer has already purchased is arguing for false economy. And false economy is both wasteful and completely not cost effective when looked from the point of view of opportunity/cost. This argument is only valid if you speaking to someone who has not yet bought the game. And the folk's on BSN would not appear to fit that category.

My advice is a little more thought out. Play the game again when you feel able. Then when you have reached a level of saturation, stick it on your shelf for when you get a hankering for ME again, or resell it if you can find a market for it and claim back a little bit of what you put out for it.

Either you keep the product to enjoy for later, or not.

Anything else to do with enjoyment is entirely out of anyone's hand's but your own.

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This must be a joke/troll post.

BarrettXM wrote...
I meant that you can't use powers and weapons at the same time. You can't use a weapon and flamer at the same time, etc.


... That was an exploit that has been patched.


BarrettXM wrote...
Also, I actually completed my first platinum match with the Human Adept.
I got almost no kills but I did manage by spamming Warp or whatever he
has. I think the Human Adept has a support role more than anything else.
Like I said, I, unfortunately, don't have any of the powerful weapons than can just mow down enemies.


Got carried in a difficulty he cannot manage.

There was a BSN poster that had even fewer hours played and had proven himself to be a good enough asset in Platinum with regular BSNers (he used a power-based class). It is a matter of skill.


BarrettXM wrote...
I love explosions too but only if they kill enemies in a large radius quickly.


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BarrettXM wrote...
I know this game very well. I've played it since it was realeased on
9th March 2012. Probably longer than anyone else here.


A manifest that says about 125 hours played? No, you have not played longer than anyone else here.


BarrettXM wrote...
And finding
people to play with is not a good idea since most people I play with are
crap and do not follow orders. The only order I ever give out is
telling people to move somewhere so that they don't get killed. There is
a lot of low-mentality players here.


Uhh... what? A ton of people here have added each other as friends and there are rarely complaints. I don't think people were talking about finding random players.

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Yriss wrote...

This must be a joke/troll post.


I certainly hope so.