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[DoingItRight]

ruined 

DEATH TO ALL NERFEEEEEERS!!! 

Modifié par DoingItRight, 12 mars 2013 - 09:00 .

[born2beagator]

DoingItRight wrote...

ruined 

DEATH TO ALL NERFEEEEEERS!!! 

Wasn't ruined, but I agree with the 2nd part:ph34r:

[Kingston Atticus]

Mr SeVerS wrote...

Its a weapons based class, ofcourse its going to be the best in the game. She wasnt that fun to begin with though. Also, RACE YOU GAIZ TO THE GRENADE BOXES.

Sorry the Cabal already raided the nades!
 
Between her biotic focus speed increase, her Poison strike and her flipping through walls, a good player with her should beat other nade users to the box most of the time. So stay down sexbot!

Truthfully I don't think it hurt her much with rm. Not sure about melee though since I currently have NO points in the fitness tree. TIme will tell.

[space55cadet]

RedJohn wrote...

 Tell me what you think after this nerf.


Poll here : http://social.biowar...79/polls/44281/

You complained more than anyone else i hope you are happy now buddy.

[Dunvi]

Cyonan wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

Maybe its just me, but apart from some friends, I have yet to see a good AIU in pugs.  I'm usually picking them up the whole game.

Just because you can find some pugs that do bad with it doesn't make it not overpowered, though. I could find you pugs that would do bad with a GI + Pre-nerf Krysae, but that doesn't mean that setup wasn't overpowered either.

I don't think it needed a nerf unless it became overplayed, but I'm not going to say that it was a balanced kit.

Considering that nearly every pug I've played have been at least 1 AIU and Juggernaut each, I'm perfectly happy nerfing it. I just wish the devs had considered that nerfing duration hits grenade users, which has been my main complaint from the start.

Modifié par Dunvi, 12 mars 2013 - 09:11 .

[shadowkinz]

It was quite stupid of them to balance a class around SUICIDING, and raping the actual good part of the class which was the fast play style. I am so pissed about this bc i wished the shadow was fast like this and not clunky like it is.

I woulda been fine with taking away the self rez bc it woulda forced people to play better, and been an indirect nerf to the rest, and woulda taken away her godmode. The way they did it makes the class less efficient by balancing it around suicing.. really?? Why does the tgi have instant shield regen with practically immunity frames for a sec but aiu gets owned when her regen is over time

[Mzzl]

The Repair Matrix nerf is completely irrelevant. What made and makes the AIU the #1 damage dealing infiltrator is the shotgun damage multiplier.

The Repair Matrix was just what made this character more fun to play that other infiltrators, it had 0 effect on the amount of damage I did or the score I got with this character. The only difference was that I wasn't using as many ops and gels and didn't have to buy a JEP every other game.

It would have been a more fun character if the repair matrix had remained untouched, and if it had had a nerf in damage output instead. I'm going to spec out of RM now and try a full fitness build.

[ZiRK]

Kingston Atticus wrote...

Mr SeVerS wrote...

Its a weapons based class, ofcourse its going to be the best in the game. She wasnt that fun to begin with though. Also, RACE YOU GAIZ TO THE GRENADE BOXES.

Sorry the Cabal already raided the nades!
 
Between her biotic focus speed increase, her Poison strike and her flipping through walls, a good player with her should beat other nade users to the box most of the time. So stay down sexbot!

Truthfully I don't think it hurt her much with rm. Not sure about melee though since I currently have NO points in the fitness tree. TIme will tell.

Yea, aslong as she has her 2 main assets (ahem), her Insta-revvie and the shotgun evo - users should remain happy.

[Cyonan]

Dunvi wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

Maybe its just me, but apart from some friends, I have yet to see a good AIU in pugs.  I'm usually picking them up the whole game.

Just because you can find some pugs that do bad with it doesn't make it not overpowered, though. I could find you pugs that would do bad with a GI + Pre-nerf Krysae, but that doesn't mean that setup wasn't overpowered either.

I don't think it needed a nerf unless it became overplayed, but I'm not going to say that it was a balanced kit.

Considering that nearly every pug I've played have been at least 1 AIU and Juggernaut each, I'm perfectly happy nerfing it. I just wish the devs had considered that nerfing duration hits grenade users, which has been my main complaint from the start.

I suppose it's different for everyone. I see mainly Juggernauts and almost no AIUs.

Though personally I'd have hit the DR harder than they did and not touched duration. Cut it down to about 20% max damage reduction.

[Lucky]

It was a good change overall and those saying she is ruined are being extremely dense or silly as she still has good survivability and amazing offense.

Only thing I have a problem with is the melee damage nerf, that was unnecessary.

IMO repair matrix should've included a 25% damage reduction (to the AIU's damage output) while active. Then it would've been great for getting out of a bad situation but wouldn't allow for reckless offense.

[Dunvi]

Cyonan wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

Maybe its just me, but apart from some friends, I have yet to see a good AIU in pugs.  I'm usually picking them up the whole game.

Just because you can find some pugs that do bad with it doesn't make it not overpowered, though. I could find you pugs that would do bad with a GI + Pre-nerf Krysae, but that doesn't mean that setup wasn't overpowered either.

I don't think it needed a nerf unless it became overplayed, but I'm not going to say that it was a balanced kit.

Considering that nearly every pug I've played have been at least 1 AIU and Juggernaut each, I'm perfectly happy nerfing it. I just wish the devs had considered that nerfing duration hits grenade users, which has been my main complaint from the start.

I suppose it's different for everyone. I see mainly Juggernauts and almost no AIUs.

Though personally I'd have hit the DR harder than they did and not touched duration. Cut it down to about 20% max damage reduction.

Oh I agree, I see more juggies than AIUs, but that's a complaint for another thread. But in my experience, that just means that I'm more likely to get 2 juggernauts and an AIU, than 2 AIUs and a juggernaut.

[shadowkinz]

Why would you NERF A class'S EFFECTIVENESS TO BALANCE IT AROUND SUICIDING? REALLY TAKE A STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT IT LOL. YOU HAVE REMOVED THE class'S USEFULNESS IN ORDER TO ALLOW HER TO NOT DIE. Really what is the point of a weaker class that can't die than a good class who is less likely to die when played right?

They nerfed her shields and damage instead of just removing the self rez which woulda forced people to not play so brazenly, yet woulda kept her effectiveness. Think about it after stepping back for a sec. i am so upset by this.. it is unthought of changes.

Seriously.. they balanced a class around suicidng. Real effective in game strategy there

[shadowkinz]

I don't see why nerf the melee dmg too.. why take away options? I love melee builds, why pigeon hole us into using 1 build. Her melee wasn't that crazy lawl. Ok i am sorry to keep posting (on my fone so can't edit), just so pissed the **** off. I kno why they did it, bc it is all they could do without a patch, but still **** this ****ing bull****

[AktyNuria]

It doesn't really matter for me. I don't have to use a RM to stay alive - as far I am concerned they can remove it completly from game. I really like AIU - I dreamed about a kit with a cloak with shotgun bonus and snap freeze:wub:

[VGFM]

snap freeze and shotgun cloak bonus were always her claim to fame. Repair matrix was just icing on the cake.

[mistervirginia]

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

i think Base Shield Restoration should be un-nerfed.

Are you ****ing kidding me ? Don't tell me, you think the tac cloak nerf went too far as well, don't you.

no i'm not "****ing kidding" you.  that amount of shield restoration with only 3 points into this power is utterly meaningless on Gold/Plat.  what it means, instead, is that it will ONLY be a free Insta-Rez.

the other bonuses (speed, damage reduction, shield restoration) are meaningless unless you max RM out.  period.

LOL L2P how do you survive with any class in this game then? Shield restoration at 90/sec rank 3 is perfectly useful. Even at rank 1 that amount of shield restore completely negates DoT damage from banshees. But I guess unless you can stand in sustained fire without dying it's not good enough for you? And do you really think that RM has to be maxed out to be ridiculously good? At rank 1 you get a 10% speed bonus. That's better than an adrenaline module 1.

L2P? hahahahaha....   ahahahahaha anyone who knows both of my gamertags and has played with me knows i know what i'm doing... i've been playing since day1.
i use RM as a "okay, time to get the heck out of here" type of mechanic.  nothing more.  i can't use it as this anymore imo.  i don't think you've played with this kit AT ALL, let alone on Gold or above.  if you had, you'd know that pre-nerf the Shield Restoration MAXED would just enable you to hear a constant shield gate until you kissed the floor anyway.  i don't care about a measly speed bonus.  i've personally only found a speed bonus to be good on kits like the Asari Valk or the Fury.  they could've taken the speed bonus out completely and i would've been a-okay with that.

[shadowkinz]

But why nerf the melee build. I was the only one ive ever seen in game using it haha. Pretty uncalled for and excessive. It is like a brutal cop kicking a guy after handcuffed. Why?? Unnecessary..

I always wanted a quick paced melee class and was so disappointed by the shadow, being the slow paced buggy junk it is, and the aiu was it. The shield boost was fine, it was the self rez that was bad. This sucks!!

[RedJohn]

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

i think Base Shield Restoration should be un-nerfed.

Are you ****ing kidding me ? Don't tell me, you think the tac cloak nerf went too far as well, don't you.

no i'm not "****ing kidding" you.  that amount of shield restoration with only 3 points into this power is utterly meaningless on Gold/Plat.  what it means, instead, is that it will ONLY be a free Insta-Rez.

the other bonuses (speed, damage reduction, shield restoration) are meaningless unless you max RM out.  period.

LOL L2P how do you survive with any class in this game then? Shield restoration at 90/sec rank 3 is perfectly useful. Even at rank 1 that amount of shield restore completely negates DoT damage from banshees. But I guess unless you can stand in sustained fire without dying it's not good enough for you? And do you really think that RM has to be maxed out to be ridiculously good? At rank 1 you get a 10% speed bonus. That's better than an adrenaline module 1.

L2P? hahahahaha....   ahahahahaha anyone who knows both of my gamertags and has played with me knows i know what i'm doing... i've been playing since day1.
i use RM as a "okay, time to get the heck out of here" type of mechanic.  nothing more.  i can't use it as this anymore imo.  i don't think you've played with this kit AT ALL, let alone on Gold or above.  if you had, you'd know that pre-nerf the Shield Restoration MAXED would just enable you to hear a constant shield gate until you kissed the floor anyway.  i don't care about a measly speed bonus.  i've personally only found a speed bonus to be good on kits like the Asari Valk or the Fury.  they could've taken the speed bonus out completely and i would've been a-okay with that.

But if you know how to play this game and you play since day 1, why would you need the RM shield restoration un-nerfed?

Modifié par RedJohn, 12 mars 2013 - 09:25 .

[BACON4BREAKFAST]

Now all they need to do is nerf Tac Cloak and all will be right in the world.

[shadowkinz]

Imma say it till everyone reads it. They are basically nerfing a class around suiciding the way they did it shoulda left the shield regen and nerfed the self rez (but noo that wpulda taken a patch)

Also melee nerf? Wtf coming outta left field with that one

[mybudgee]

Melee nerf was unnecessary

[mistervirginia]

RedJohn wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

i think Base Shield Restoration should be un-nerfed.

Are you ****ing kidding me ? Don't tell me, you think the tac cloak nerf went too far as well, don't you.

no i'm not "****ing kidding" you.  that amount of shield restoration with only 3 points into this power is utterly meaningless on Gold/Plat.  what it means, instead, is that it will ONLY be a free Insta-Rez.

the other bonuses (speed, damage reduction, shield restoration) are meaningless unless you max RM out.  period.

LOL L2P how do you survive with any class in this game then? Shield restoration at 90/sec rank 3 is perfectly useful. Even at rank 1 that amount of shield restore completely negates DoT damage from banshees. But I guess unless you can stand in sustained fire without dying it's not good enough for you? And do you really think that RM has to be maxed out to be ridiculously good? At rank 1 you get a 10% speed bonus. That's better than an adrenaline module 1.

L2P? hahahahaha....   ahahahahaha anyone who knows both of my gamertags and has played with me knows i know what i'm doing... i've been playing since day1.
i use RM as a "okay, time to get the heck out of here" type of mechanic.  nothing more.  i can't use it as this anymore imo.  i don't think you've played with this kit AT ALL, let alone on Gold or above.  if you had, you'd know that pre-nerf the Shield Restoration MAXED would just enable you to hear a constant shield gate until you kissed the floor anyway.  i don't care about a measly speed bonus.  i've personally only found a speed bonus to be good on kits like the Asari Valk or the Fury.  they could've taken the speed bonus out completely and i would've been a-okay with that.

But if you know how to play this game and you play since day 1, why would you need the RM shield restoration un-nerfed?

it allowed me to be more "upfront" than my teammates mostly and more than other kits i tend to play with.  i could take the frontlines, if you will, instead of cowering behind cover, waiting for cloak to break just so my shields regen.  with RM, if i'm cloaked and an enemy happens to break my shields, BAM, RM and shields back.  it just kind of defeats the purpose of this kit now.  i'd rather play as a Paladin if i wanna Cryo-Esplode all tha things.

[AktyNuria]

shadowkinz wrote...
Also melee nerf? Wtf coming outta left field with that one

I have no idea what they want to achieve in this way, it is stupid change - maybe nerf only for nerfing?

[BACON4BREAKFAST]

mybudgee wrote...

Melee nerf was unnecessary

Should not have been so good at melee in the first place, besides it was barely a nerf anyways.