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[avenging_teabag]

Just played her, there's literally no difference.

[Tallgeese_VII]

She is still far from being weak. That`s for sure.

Melee damage nerf hurts though. Why?

[krknight]

VGFM wrote...

snap freeze and shotgun cloak bonus were always her claim to fame. Repair matrix was just icing on the cake.

icing?  more like 3 scoops of exotic ice cream, whipped topping, nuts, chocolate syrup, and half a jar of cherries.

[TeamLexana]

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

[Dunvi]

mistervirginia wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

i think Base Shield Restoration should be un-nerfed.

Are you ****ing kidding me ? Don't tell me, you think the tac cloak nerf went too far as well, don't you.

no i'm not "****ing kidding" you.  that amount of shield restoration with only 3 points into this power is utterly meaningless on Gold/Plat.  what it means, instead, is that it will ONLY be a free Insta-Rez.

the other bonuses (speed, damage reduction, shield restoration) are meaningless unless you max RM out.  period.

LOL L2P how do you survive with any class in this game then? Shield restoration at 90/sec rank 3 is perfectly useful. Even at rank 1 that amount of shield restore completely negates DoT damage from banshees. But I guess unless you can stand in sustained fire without dying it's not good enough for you? And do you really think that RM has to be maxed out to be ridiculously good? At rank 1 you get a 10% speed bonus. That's better than an adrenaline module 1.

L2P? hahahahaha....   ahahahahaha anyone who knows both of my gamertags and has played with me knows i know what i'm doing... i've been playing since day1.
i use RM as a "okay, time to get the heck out of here" type of mechanic.  nothing more.  i can't use it as this anymore imo.  i don't think you've played with this kit AT ALL, let alone on Gold or above.  if you had, you'd know that pre-nerf the Shield Restoration MAXED would just enable you to hear a constant shield gate until you kissed the floor anyway.  i don't care about a measly speed bonus.  i've personally only found a speed bonus to be good on kits like the Asari Valk or the Fury.  they could've taken the speed bonus out completely and i would've been a-okay with that.

But if you know how to play this game and you play since day 1, why would you need the RM shield restoration un-nerfed?

it allowed me to be more "upfront" than my teammates mostly and more than other kits i tend to play with.  i could take the frontlines, if you will, instead of cowering behind cover, waiting for cloak to break just so my shields regen.  with RM, if i'm cloaked and an enemy happens to break my shields, BAM, RM and shields back.  it just kind of defeats the purpose of this kit now.  i'd rather play as a Paladin if i wanna Cryo-Esplode all tha things.

Or you could be aggressive and not waste potential DPS on survivability. Because some of us know how to play.

And speed bonuses, worthless? LOL.

[mistervirginia]

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

it's what "everyone" wanted apparently and i find this hilarious

[Arctican]

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

There are six thermal packs to use. That should be more than enough.

[Dunvi]

mistervirginia wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

it's what "everyone" wanted apparently and i find this hilarious

I think I've said before that hitting the duration was not going to help, as did nearly every one else once forced to think about it.

[mistervirginia]

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

i think Base Shield Restoration should be un-nerfed.

Are you ****ing kidding me ? Don't tell me, you think the tac cloak nerf went too far as well, don't you.

no i'm not "****ing kidding" you.  that amount of shield restoration with only 3 points into this power is utterly meaningless on Gold/Plat.  what it means, instead, is that it will ONLY be a free Insta-Rez.

the other bonuses (speed, damage reduction, shield restoration) are meaningless unless you max RM out.  period.

LOL L2P how do you survive with any class in this game then? Shield restoration at 90/sec rank 3 is perfectly useful. Even at rank 1 that amount of shield restore completely negates DoT damage from banshees. But I guess unless you can stand in sustained fire without dying it's not good enough for you? And do you really think that RM has to be maxed out to be ridiculously good? At rank 1 you get a 10% speed bonus. That's better than an adrenaline module 1.

L2P? hahahahaha....   ahahahahaha anyone who knows both of my gamertags and has played with me knows i know what i'm doing... i've been playing since day1.
i use RM as a "okay, time to get the heck out of here" type of mechanic.  nothing more.  i can't use it as this anymore imo.  i don't think you've played with this kit AT ALL, let alone on Gold or above.  if you had, you'd know that pre-nerf the Shield Restoration MAXED would just enable you to hear a constant shield gate until you kissed the floor anyway.  i don't care about a measly speed bonus.  i've personally only found a speed bonus to be good on kits like the Asari Valk or the Fury.  they could've taken the speed bonus out completely and i would've been a-okay with that.

But if you know how to play this game and you play since day 1, why would you need the RM shield restoration un-nerfed?

it allowed me to be more "upfront" than my teammates mostly and more than other kits i tend to play with.  i could take the frontlines, if you will, instead of cowering behind cover, waiting for cloak to break just so my shields regen.  with RM, if i'm cloaked and an enemy happens to break my shields, BAM, RM and shields back.  it just kind of defeats the purpose of this kit now.  i'd rather play as a Paladin if i wanna Cryo-Esplode all tha things.

Or you could be aggressive and not waste potential DPS on survivability. Because some of us know how to play.

And speed bonuses, worthless? LOL.

huh? i am aggressive, that's my point.  i have always had the AIU spec'd for max DPS versus survivability.
and yes, speed bonus is worthless on her.  sure, it may help for Pizza Deilvery objective, but that's it.  she's an Infiltrator, or did you possibly forget?

[Eelectrica]

I think the duration nerf went a little too far. should have been 10 seconds. That we if the duration evo is picked we get the 15 seconds back.
On non grenade friendly maps, the enemies might as well take a break while grenade uses fight each other for grenades.

[Parallax Demon]

Why are you so obsessed with her? This is about the 5th topic you made about this kit.

Just go back to be a very good player who wants to help other people, otherwise you start to sound like somebody who made a topic about every other day about the BPP.

And on topic: Good players will hardly notice the difference. Mediocre players will use the Shock Trooper Gear more often and Bad players will even die more and faster than they already did.

[mistervirginia]

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

it's what "everyone" wanted apparently and i find this hilarious

I think I've said before that hitting the duration was not going to help, as did nearly every one else once forced to think about it.

well i suppose once everyone thought about it that it was too late 
the quotes meant not literally everyone, btw.  i think you're taking this a bit too serious lol

[krknight]

significant nerfs. although she's probably still overpowered, i'm not going to debate for further nerfs and i haven't tried out the new balanced version to make an experienced decision anyway.

all of the weapons/kit buffs were a pleasant surprise. the rng store buff on the other hand was a total punch in the face while opening my presents on christmas morning.

edit:  thought it over.  at least i don't have to wait til the end of the week for a chance to max my hurricane.

Modifié par krknight, 12 mars 2013 - 10:18 .

[Shad Croly]

I never really thought that she needed a nerf, but at the same time, I didn't play her like a crutch character, always trying to use Repair Matrix as little as possible (though the shield regeneration did help a great deal in a pinch). It's disappointing to see her get nerfed so badly, but it's not like anything can be done about it at this point.

[sliverofamoon]

MajorStupidity wrote...

Here is how I replied to all the nerf threads

MajorStupidity wrote...

It will take a small nerf.

It will still be overpowered.

People will cry that it's still an "i win button".

People will cry that it's also ruined forever.

The buffs will go unnoticed.

I'll continue to play whatever I want.

Other than the fact that there are less QQ threads than I imagined I believe that I was correct. Hopefully we can quit seeing so many damn threads about the AIU.

This, and...

Nope... the threads won't end as long as there are Infiltrators in this game. They'll keep popping up until ME4 comes out, and then, if the class is in that game, we'll see the same bull**** threads all over the place.

[Dunvi]

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

it's what "everyone" wanted apparently and i find this hilarious

I think I've said before that hitting the duration was not going to help, as did nearly every one else once forced to think about it.

well i suppose once everyone thought about it that it was too late 
the quotes meant not literally everyone, btw.  i think you're taking this a bit too serious lol

I think I was in an absolutely terrible mood even before the balance changes were posted, and I should be thrown out an airlock at least until tomorrow and probably until Saturday. So don't take anything I say too seriously either.

But you're still totally wrong about speed boosts. Everyone can use a speed boost. I find adrenaline IIIs more valuable than a cyclonic IV on nearly every kit I enjoy playing.

[UKStory135]

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

That bad part is it is only about 13 people who have been complaining.  10 of them hate all infiltrators and have been complaining about them for over a year and 3 who have a history of being very reasonable. I personally didn't think she was OP because to me, instant revives are not nearly as good as on the on-demand sheild restore that 30% of the characters in this game.

[TeamLexana]

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

it's what "everyone" wanted apparently and i find this hilarious

I think I've said before that hitting the duration was not going to help, as did nearly every one else once forced to think about it.

well i suppose once everyone thought about it that it was too late 
the quotes meant not literally everyone, btw.  i think you're taking this a bit too serious lol

I think I was in an absolutely terrible mood even before the balance changes were posted, and I should be thrown out an airlock at least until tomorrow and probably until Saturday. So don't take anything I say too seriously either.

But you're still totally wrong about speed boosts. Everyone can use a speed boost. I find adrenaline IIIs more valuable than a cyclonic IV on nearly every kit I enjoy playing.

Put an Adrenaline 3 on her and lol while you steal everyone's grenades.

[Lucky]

Mistervirginia, you are certifiably insane if you think speed buffs are useless and that you need repair matrix to play on the front lines. Hell, my favorite GI build is to use a piranha and he has diddly squat for shields, zero shield restoration abilities and the piranha is nearly the most short range weapon in the game.

Also, "cowering behind cover"? Really? Yes how dare bioware make playing smart and using cover when needed part of a class? Ruined I say! RUUINED!

Maybe you don't need to L2P, but you sure talk like someone who does.

[Aetika]

Can´t really vote. I think the nerf was stupid and I don´t think she´s ruined.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

 I voted it was ruined but just because I thought it was fun how hilariously OP and silly it was and I'll miss how stupid good it was.

[Lucky]

UKStory135 wrote...

That bad part is it is only about 13 people who have been complaining.  10 of them hate all infiltrators and have been complaining about them for over a year and 3 who have a history of being very reasonable. I personally didn't think she was OP because to me, instant revives are not nearly as good as on the on-demand sheild restore that 30% of the characters in this game.

Thank you for enlightening us, I'm sure you thoroughly counted the number of people requesting nerfs and judiciously checked their previous feelings about other kits/powers. I'm also sure you have too much integrity to pull a statement like that out of your ***...

Modifié par rlucht, 12 mars 2013 - 09:58 .

[mistervirginia]

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

it's what "everyone" wanted apparently and i find this hilarious

I think I've said before that hitting the duration was not going to help, as did nearly every one else once forced to think about it.

well i suppose once everyone thought about it that it was too late 
the quotes meant not literally everyone, btw.  i think you're taking this a bit too serious lol

I think I was in an absolutely terrible mood even before the balance changes were posted, and I should be thrown out an airlock at least until tomorrow and probably until Saturday. So don't take anything I say too seriously either.

But you're still totally wrong about speed boosts. Everyone can use a speed boost. I find adrenaline IIIs more valuable than a cyclonic IV on nearly every kit I enjoy playing.

no worries haha
maybe, but this was about AIU in regards to the speed boost.  considering you haven't extracted with her yet, i'm not so sure you've had as much experience with her as i, or others, may have.  certainly not trying to be rude.  just sayin'
i play with a friend and at one point he did suggest i switch from a Cyclonic IV to an Adrenaline III for AIU, so i did, and have played with that recently.  the only reason being because it got me to ammo boxes quicker.  that's it  hahaha (LOLreegar eats through ammo!).  i'm starting to get more comfortable on PC coming from PS3, though, so i'll switch back to Cyclonics.

[Lady Galaga]

The nerf only punishes sub-par players. If you play her well, you'll barely notice the difference.

[mistervirginia]

rlucht wrote...

Mistervirginia, you are certifiably insane if you think speed buffs are useless and that you need repair matrix to play on the front lines. Hell, my favorite GI build is to use a piranha and he has diddly squat for shields, zero shield restoration abilities and the piranha is nearly the most short range weapon in the game.

Also, "cowering behind cover"? Really? Yes how dare bioware make playing smart and using cover when needed part of a class? Ruined I say! RUUINED!

Maybe you don't need to L2P, but you sure talk like someone who does.

lol i don't need to prove myself to the likes of BSN.
yes cowering behind cover.  how do you plan on putting out max DPS in cover if there's someone who can stay out of cover a bit longer AND not kiss the floor?

teams who roll around a map on Platinum in a close group don't touch cover...  but alright.
speed boost on AIU is useless unless you're trying to get to ammo boxes quicker or do Pizza Delivery quick.  but i digress.  i am certifiably insane 
also, good job on being able to use the GI with no shileds, arguably the most OP kit in the game...