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[Tipsyfresh]

P51Mus7ang wrote...

Morgax_Warrior wrote...

Still got free revive, irony is that they will go for nades more frequently now, in short:
everyone loses.

Then players might want to change their playstyle, I can go through a platinum match and use RM maybe 8 times, players need to use this more as an ops pack rather than wasting resources keeping it active all the time, she is not a juggy that can stand out in the field waiting to get shot. If played the way I believe she was designed she is in the top 3 most powerful kits in this game.

(i agree with this)

[nevets79]

Dunvi wrote...

She's still a stupidly unbalanced, grenade guzzling, master of all trades that teaches bad habits, and with the changes it's even more likely she's gonna end up on my insta-kick list.

(late to party)    perhaps you should play a char before you talk crap and say you'll insta kick. not even 1 exttraction with this char and your an expert?

you have zero credibility  

[TeamLexana]

Lady Galaga wrote...

The nerf only punishes sub-par players. If you play her well, you'll barely notice the difference.

Which I also don't like. I know I'll probably be fine and still be able to play her but the average random..... not so much probably? What's with encouraging gold and plats staying so exclusive? I'd rather someone use her and HAVE FUN and not be a drain on the team then anything else really. I find it creepy that some peeps think that because there is an AUI, it somehow dimishes their accomplishments. In a video game... LOL.

[stysiaq]

I don't care.

AIU bows before the Bow.

[Tech Domain]

As long as auto-revive exists she'll never be balanced. And since that won't be going anywhere, I guess we'll have to make do with these changes.
They were justified, and she is more on-par with other kits now.

I think Talon may have kicked her off her throne anyway.

Modifié par Tech Domain, 12 mars 2013 - 10:09 .

[UKStory135]

rlucht wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

That bad part is it is only about 13 people who have been complaining.  10 of them hate all infiltrators and have been complaining about them for over a year and 3 who have a history of being very reasonable. I personally didn't think she was OP because to me, instant revives are not nearly as good as on the on-demand sheild restore that 30% of the characters in this game.

Thank you for enlightening us, I'm sure you thoroughly counted the number of people requesting nerfs and judiciously checked their previous feelings about other kits/powers. I'm also sure you have too much integrity to pull a statement like that out of your ***...

I actually have names for all of them, so I didn't exactly pull it out of my bum.  The number of "Nerf the Infiltrator!" thread starters is extremely small, and the same ones have done it over and over again for a year now.

[CZtheDude]

They nerfed her? Been playing her all night, didn't notice a thing.

[Lucky]

mistervirginia wrote...

lol i don't need to prove myself to the likes of BSN.
yes cowering behind cover.  how do you plan on putting out max DPS in cover if there's someone who can stay out of cover a bit longer AND not kiss the floor?

teams who roll around a map on Platinum in a close group don't touch cover...  but alright.
speed boost on AIU is useless unless you're trying to get to ammo boxes quicker or do Pizza Delivery quick.  but i digress.  i am certifiably insane 
also, good job on being able to use the GI with no shileds, arguably the most OP kit in the game...

Yes the idea of the nerf is to prevent her from putting out ridiculous DPS, by forcing her to need to take cover like a normal character, that includes using right hand advantage and simply dipping behing soft cover while your shields regen, something that teams who roll around the map in platinum do assuming they aren't relying on immortal crutch characters like the TGI and pre-nerf AIU

[Dunvi]

nevets79 wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

She's still a stupidly unbalanced, grenade guzzling, master of all trades that teaches bad habits, and with the changes it's even more likely she's gonna end up on my insta-kick list.

(late to party)    perhaps you should play a char before you talk crap and say you'll insta kick. not even 1 exttraction with this char and your an expert?

you have zero credibility  

You are incorrectly assuming I am kicking them because they will suck.

I will insta kick them because it will diminish the fun I am having with this game.

Don't worry, if I'm pugging, I just leave the lobby. But if my friends and I are picking up a single random, you bet I'm going to kick anything that will hurt my enjoyment.

Modifié par Dunvi, 12 mars 2013 - 10:12 .

[TeamLexana]

mistervirginia wrote...

rlucht wrote...

Mistervirginia, you are certifiably insane if you think speed buffs are useless and that you need repair matrix to play on the front lines. Hell, my favorite GI build is to use a piranha and he has diddly squat for shields, zero shield restoration abilities and the piranha is nearly the most short range weapon in the game.

Also, "cowering behind cover"? Really? Yes how dare bioware make playing smart and using cover when needed part of a class? Ruined I say! RUUINED!

Maybe you don't need to L2P, but you sure talk like someone who does.

lol i don't need to prove myself to the likes of BSN.
yes cowering behind cover.  how do you plan on putting out max DPS in cover if there's someone who can stay out of cover a bit longer AND not kiss the floor?

teams who roll around a map on Platinum in a close group don't touch cover...  but alright.
speed boost on AIU is useless unless you're trying to get to ammo boxes quicker or do Pizza Delivery quick.  but i digress.  i am certifiably insane 
also, good job on being able to use the GI with no shileds, arguably the most OP kit in the game...

No, not really. The speed helps her tank and helps her DPS with getting into shotty/snap freeze range hella quick and then GTFO'n back outta dodge then going back in again.

[GunWraith]

No difference, I only used RM to regen shieldgate and for the auto revive. I never bothered with her melee.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Dunvi wrote...

She's still a stupidly unbalanced, grenade guzzling, master of all trades that teaches bad habits, and with the changes it's even more likely she's gonna end up on my insta-kick list.

I bet what you REALLY mean is something like : "She`s a stupidly amazingly crutch character who eat`s grenades like popcorn when browsing the BSN, Master of everything that teaches stupid people stupid things and is overplayed by ALL the males in MPdue to her stupidly OP physique and power set"

Amirite?

[GoudaMaster]

 Is she still the most powerful shotgun specialist in the game? So it is the same.
(Never had any real problem with repair matrix, just that some players are constantly stealing grenades, and now it'll be worse).

[Lucky]

UKStory135 wrote...

I actually have names for all of them, so I didn't exactly pull it out of my bum.  The number of "Nerf the Infiltrator!" thread starters is extremely small, and the same ones have done it over and over again for a year now.

Uh huh cause the only people who wanted her nerfed and said so started threads about it... right....

How bout you count all the people who made comments to that extent and then tell us that only 13 people wanted her nerfed...

[Dunvi]

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

Less duration, less sheilds, less DR, so all in all, she's gonna have to guzzle more grenades. Great. Be forewarned, if you have one of these puppies in your game, all the ammo boxes will empty of grenades and you'll only have yourself to blame. Congrats.

it's what "everyone" wanted apparently and i find this hilarious

I think I've said before that hitting the duration was not going to help, as did nearly every one else once forced to think about it.

well i suppose once everyone thought about it that it was too late 
the quotes meant not literally everyone, btw.  i think you're taking this a bit too serious lol

I think I was in an absolutely terrible mood even before the balance changes were posted, and I should be thrown out an airlock at least until tomorrow and probably until Saturday. So don't take anything I say too seriously either.

But you're still totally wrong about speed boosts. Everyone can use a speed boost. I find adrenaline IIIs more valuable than a cyclonic IV on nearly every kit I enjoy playing.

no worries haha
maybe, but this was about AIU in regards to the speed boost.  considering you haven't extracted with her yet, i'm not so sure you've had as much experience with her as i, or others, may have.  certainly not trying to be rude.  just sayin'
i play with a friend and at one point he did suggest i switch from a Cyclonic IV to an Adrenaline III for AIU, so i did, and have played with that recently.  the only reason being because it got me to ammo boxes quicker.  that's it  hahaha (LOLreegar eats through ammo!).  i'm starting to get more comfortable on PC coming from PS3, though, so i'll switch back to Cyclonics.

If you're switching to PC, when you get more comfortable you should actually start appreciating adrenaline modules more. On console you can get away with no speed boost and still avoid damage with intelligent movement. At 60 fps you need a small speed boost to avoid damage even while moving perpendicularly.

On a class like this, a speed boost is going to help her survivability (avoiding damage is better than tanking it), help her damage (easier and safer to get into shotgun range), and help her get nades. Speed boosts are vastly underappreciated by the majority of the community.

[ToLazy4Name]

The Repair Matrix nerf was justified, even though I don't support nerfs of any kind.

However, the melee nerf was NOT needed. Hell, the description of the character even says it's designed for CQC (And judging from how Eva Core dealt with Ashley/Kaidan, i'm interpreting that as Melee, not Shotguns).

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

Slow Motion FTW wrote...

Nothing has really changed.

Still got Snap Freeze, still got great shotgun damage buffs and can still self-revive. I will continue to use her regardless.

 Precisely, she's unchanged in my eyes. Can still blast enemies, debuff them and she has a free self revive. All of her strengths are still intact.


 I never gave a damn about melee in the multiplayer cause no matter how much you want it to, it has never been viable on plat.

Modifié par ThelLastTruePatriot, 12 mars 2013 - 10:22 .

[Dunvi]

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

She's still a stupidly unbalanced, grenade guzzling, master of all trades that teaches bad habits, and with the changes it's even more likely she's gonna end up on my insta-kick list.

I bet what you REALLY mean is something like : "She`s a stupidly amazingly crutch character who eat`s grenades like popcorn when browsing the BSN, Master of everything that teaches stupid people stupid things and is overplayed by ALL the males in MPdue to her stupidly OP physique and power set"

Amirite?

she's not even hot. my butt is so much better than her mofo ugly giant hips...

[RoundedPlanet88]

Dunvi wrote...


If you're switching to PC, when you get more comfortable you should actually start appreciating adrenaline modules more. On console you can get away with no speed boost and still avoid damage with intelligent movement. At 60 fps you need a small speed boost to avoid damage even while moving perpendicularly.

On a class like this, a speed boost is going to help her survivability (avoiding damage is better than tanking it), help her damage (easier and safer to get into shotgun range), and help her get nades. Speed boosts are vastly underappreciated by the majority of the community.

Some of us like to take things slow.

[Original Twigman]

Dunvi wrote...

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

She's still a stupidly unbalanced, grenade guzzling, master of all trades that teaches bad habits, and with the changes it's even more likely she's gonna end up on my insta-kick list.

I bet what you REALLY mean is something like : "She`s a stupidly amazingly crutch character who eat`s grenades like popcorn when browsing the BSN, Master of everything that teaches stupid people stupid things and is overplayed by ALL the males in MPdue to her stupidly OP physique and power set"

Amirite?

she's not even hot. my butt is so much better than her mofo ugly giant hips...

pics or its not true

[Original Twigman]

I am surprised few have realized that this is a thinly veiled self-affirming pat on the back by RedTroll

[Chardonney]

- Melee nerf was definitely not needed and a stupid move.
- Duration nerf -> situation for other granade users even worse now. Wrong way to go.

As a whole it's still very usable character.

[Scalabrine]

Still the best character in the game...

Still can get up without gel and just got a measley 10% overall damage reduction decreased.

The time duration is kind of a **** but still lol, give her a Wraith/Claymore/Reegar/Raider...GG.

And to all of those who are crying or saying she's decent or not that good anymore. Bring your GIs and your Furys and jump on my backpack and get carried.

Modifié par Scalabrine, 12 mars 2013 - 10:29 .

[tonnactus]

It wasnt needed. This purpose of this class was close range combat including melee and guns like the Raider. Repair Matrix gave the needed surviability for that.

[Dunvi]

I can't believe people are seriously complaining about the melee damage nerf. For chrissake, she doesn't have better melee damage than classes who were intended to be melee classes anymore. BIG ****ING DEAL she can still kill a phantom with a single shoot > melee cycle, not to mention that the speed of the damn thing allows her to get 2 or even 3 HMs off in the time it takes characters with better melee dps to get off 1.