Aller au contenu

Photo

Some brutal math regarding Ultra-Rare drop rates -- BioWare, please take a look at this <Updated Mar.31 with MORE math!>


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
340 réponses à ce sujet

#251
whalewhisker

whalewhisker
  • Members
  • 1 058 messages
Everything that I could say has already been said.

+1

#252
WaffleCrab

WaffleCrab
  • Members
  • 3 027 messages
500+ hours in MP, and i have not gotten even half of the UR unlocks as far as weapons go, worst no UR streak, 12,7mill. = 128 PSP's and at the end with the final pack, was rewarded venom -.- my personal unlock rate is closer to 3% across all the 3 99K packs -.-

#253
BAOBAB_AOTEAROA

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA
  • Members
  • 90 messages
But what if Bioware is feeling really good and magnanimous and decides to do weekend challenges with the gift of UR weapons in case of success in the operation?

that would make the game again interesting.

Modifié par BAOBAB_AOTEAROA, 13 mars 2013 - 09:56 .


#254
WaffleCrab

WaffleCrab
  • Members
  • 3 027 messages

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA wrote...

But what if Bioware is feeling really good and magnanimous and decides to do weekend challenges with UR weapons?

that would make the game again interesting.


you mean force people to use them? BW should propably make sure everyone has them first, othervise an immensely stupid idea.

#255
Harbingerpromo

Harbingerpromo
  • Members
  • 400 messages
1000 hours of gameplay. 28 weekend challenges completed...

Still 56 UR cards to unlock...and still missing the BPP.

My only chance of getting a maxed manifest within the next 100 hours of gameplay is to do all those 100 hours in plat speedruns. Which is, as we all know, the most fun ever.

What else does bioware want from me?

#256
BAOBAB_AOTEAROA

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA
  • Members
  • 90 messages

WaffleCrab wrote...

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA wrote...

But what if Bioware is feeling really good and magnanimous and decides to do weekend challenges with UR weapons?

that would make the game again interesting.


you mean force people to use them? BW should propably make sure everyone has them first, othervise an immensely stupid idea.


Sorry, i was not clear, i meant to say that in case of success of a weekend operation you get a UR weapon.

#257
sliverofamoon

sliverofamoon
  • Members
  • 1 297 messages

jordie3000 wrote...

Wendig wrote...

I know people say increasing the UR drop rate would cause players to stop playing. But spending 2.5 million credits and getting nothing make's me want to quit just the same.


/signed*

#258
El Franko

El Franko
  • Members
  • 41 messages

DullahansXMark wrote...

Hmm... It's been 24 hours and this hasn't gotten a response. Does the thread title sound too aggressive?

Maybe I should PM this directly to Eric? I think it's important considering that the playerbase is actually declining because of this.


Important? They did us a favor, we don't have to wait weekends to get the promotionals. The already made the change.

Also I have trouble following the entire math of this issue. In my account I have less URs to unlock which means more chances that I end up not unlocking anything. In my sons account whenever I help him out I am almost always unlocking something because he has barely any URs, etc.

I actually like it a lot when playing on his account because I get to relieve unlocking weapons again. All of that is gone when you are near maxing out, or maxed out. 

After people start maxing out their favorite weapons that's when it will truly decline. When you get there you will see this.

#259
Romann9944

Romann9944
  • Members
  • 15 messages

sliverofamoon wrote...

jordie3000 wrote...

Wendig wrote...

I know people say increasing the UR drop rate would cause players to stop playing. But spending 2.5 million credits and getting nothing make's me want to quit just the same.


/signed*


+1

#260
InTheZone

InTheZone
  • Members
  • 2 232 messages
This assumes you're trying for a maxed out manifest... These numbers are stupid and should be taken with a grain of salt. Why unlock all UR weapons? Jeeze

#261
kajtarp

kajtarp
  • Members
  • 423 messages

InTheZone wrote...

This assumes you're trying for a maxed out manifest... These numbers are stupid and should be taken with a grain of salt. Why unlock all UR weapons? Jeeze


becouse the store unlocked me every weapon i dont want to use, and the weapons i want are still unlocked. With 4 reckoning UR and 5 promo UR weapons my chances to get a Black widow I after half a year is close to zero.

Modifié par kajtarp, 13 mars 2013 - 10:28 .


#262
TehPwnzor52

TehPwnzor52
  • Members
  • 135 messages
Wow. Just, wow.
Personally, I think once you have maxed everything else, ultra rares should just become the new rares. You have to put Alot of time in just to max your rares, and you should be rewarded for that.

#263
Bundalings

Bundalings
  • Members
  • 89 messages
Please please please. I'm going to add my voice to the "I want a Lancer so bad" choir. And also the "I'm starting to get fed up with how much time this game takes to unlock the decent stuff" group. Random unlocks are awful and if Bioware is even considering using this system in their next game, they should be mega-ashamed.

#264
WaffleCrab

WaffleCrab
  • Members
  • 3 027 messages

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA wrote...

WaffleCrab wrote...

BAOBAB_AOTEAROA wrote...

But what if Bioware is feeling really good and magnanimous and decides to do weekend challenges with UR weapons?

that would make the game again interesting.


you mean force people to use them? BW should propably make sure everyone has them first, othervise an immensely stupid idea.


Sorry, i was not clear, i meant to say that in case of success of a weekend operation you get a UR weapon.



phew, my bad then :)

#265
Lenimph

Lenimph
  • Members
  • 4 561 messages
Holy crap... that... that just.... I just... I'll never get Wraith X
Image IPB

Modifié par Lenimph, 13 mars 2013 - 11:20 .


#266
SandeProElite

SandeProElite
  • Members
  • 188 messages
Agreed. They really need to do something with the URs.

#267
Credit2team

Credit2team
  • Members
  • 5 582 messages
the UR droprate needs to be 30% for PSPs and 20% for SPs, that would still make it a grind, but make it a much faster one.

and its erroneous to think that people stop playing after they get their manifest maxed, the effect is quite the opposite. people are more likely to continue to play a game when they have wepons and kits they like.

But the reason the drop rate is bad right now has nothing to do with that, it has everything to do with the pure greed that is EA

#268
Trontor

Trontor
  • Members
  • 542 messages

ABjerre wrote...

We havent got any more DLC to look forward to which means that the game has to be able to survive off of us chasing those UR's currently in game.


It is not going to survive by frustating the players. I played two succesful Gold matches and one mostly (I failed to get extracted, the team did) succesful Platinum match today. I bought one PSP, one AR and one RP with the credits. The highlight was a Reset Power card. The rest were consumables, a lot of them not even good ones. I still only have a single Shotgun Rail Amp.

That is not motivating me to play, that is demotivating. What keeps me playing at the moment is my stubbornness. But it will probably run out when I finally unlock my sixth missile. That is actually another frustrating story. I must have spent a million credits since BioWare increased the cap last week. But despite having all rate items maxed I still didn't get it.

Modifié par JustAnotherVanguard, 13 mars 2013 - 11:37 .


#269
The Makr

The Makr
  • Members
  • 603 messages
Bioware should offer up a real cash only UR pack.

#270
azoth1267

azoth1267
  • Members
  • 198 messages

The Makr wrote...

Bioware should offer up a real cash only UR pack.

no. <_<

#271
JaimasOfRaxis

JaimasOfRaxis
  • Members
  • 2 117 messages
I don't even give a damn about the Lancer.

I just want a maxed-out Particle Rifle. ;_;

#272
DullahansXMark

DullahansXMark
  • Members
  • 9 557 messages

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

I don't even give a damn about the Lancer.

I just want a maxed-out Particle Rifle. ;_;


I just want to unlock stuff other than things I don't use (Paladin IX, why?!!)

Modifié par DullahansXMark, 15 mars 2013 - 12:11 .


#273
DullahansXMark

DullahansXMark
  • Members
  • 9 557 messages

El Franko wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Hmm... It's been 24 hours and this hasn't gotten a response. Does the thread title sound too aggressive?

Maybe I should PM this directly to Eric? I think it's important considering that the playerbase is actually declining because of this.


Important? They did us a favor, we don't have to wait weekends to get the promotionals. The already made the change.

Also I have trouble following the entire math of this issue. In my account I have less URs to unlock which means more chances that I end up not unlocking anything. In my sons account whenever I help him out I am almost always unlocking something because he has barely any URs, etc.

I actually like it a lot when playing on his account because I get to relieve unlocking weapons again. All of that is gone when you are near maxing out, or maxed out. 

After people start maxing out their favorite weapons that's when it will truly decline. When you get there you will see this.



I just wanna actually be able to try out Reckoning's UR weapons besides only the Blood Pack Punish You For Using It (though I heard the buff did justice for it, though...). Once I unlock the Lancer, Venom, and Spitfire I'll be perfectly content.

Modifié par DullahansXMark, 15 mars 2013 - 12:13 .


#274
kipac

kipac
  • Members
  • 3 350 messages
Brutal, indeed.

#275
FellowMusicFan

FellowMusicFan
  • Members
  • 242 messages
Coming from someone who has played 720 hours I don't even have some of my original Ultra Rares maxed. They are close, but still. I haven't even gotten a Lancer or Venom Shotgun yet. Now, I mostly've played my time on Gold but some Silver and Platinum as well. But in all honesty, 720 hours of my life for not even maxed weapons? Seems unfair doesn't it? I do see the argument that most would've stopped playing a while ago if not for the drive to get the weapons but for average players who play about 4 hours a week this is extremely daunting and not a welcoming environment in terms of gameplay and sometimes players.