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[karushna5]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Good God, the lists in this thread are atrocious, in my opinion.

I'd rather have a nickname from companions. Something unique for every companion, possibly gender specific. Maybe even a "pet" name for LIs that follows the same logic.

Making every Inquisitor named Chayne (or something similarly "cross" gender and silly) would be a REALLY bad idea. Especially considering all of the names suggested don't seem likely for an Orlesian protag, which we might get in DA3.

this sounds like a really great idea actually. I really do want your companions to be able to refer to you, as well as your siblings and possible parents, though I doubt we will get those in this game.

Although in some situations, it might be hard and a little difficult to deal with all pet names. Maybe a more general name for some members than others? For example a Tevinter magister, a old bard, and a pompous champion might all give the Inquisitor a respectful name all the same, while the desperate Reaver, Orlesian assassin, and the loyalist spirit healer might call you another or even come up with their own names

[Dr. Doctor]

Skyrim made minor use of nicknames when you did the civil war questline. Siding with the Empire and completing quests with them gave you a military rank while siding with the Stormcloaks gave you titles like Stormblade. NPCs from either faction would call you by your nickname rather than just calling you "Dragonborn".

[Absafraginlootly]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Skyrim made minor use of nicknames when you did the civil war questline. Siding with the Empire and completing quests with them gave you a military rank while siding with the Stormcloaks gave you titles like Stormblade. NPCs from either faction would call you by your nickname rather than just calling you "Dragonborn".

This sort of thing would be nice, espeacially if you got a different nickname depending on a choice you made.

[meh247]

Why not have the first name customizable, but have a set middle & last name instead? That way there could be an option in the game somewhere to establish whether or not the Inquisitor goes by that name, instead of their last name or just 'Inquisitor'.

...Though it'd still be odd not to be able to go by their first name, so I guess that doesn't really change anything...

Edit: Forgot to say, having a unisex first name kind of makes sense, but then as pointed out before you'd have a lot of different Inquisitors with the same name.

Modifié par meh247, 14 mars 2013 - 11:07 .

[Aligalipe]

I don't care about choosing the name of my character. I mean i didn't get to choose my own name, my parents did that. It should be same in the game. Parents of the PC should choose his name. Therefore I'm fine with a unisex name.

[HolyAvenger]

Aligalipe wrote...

I don't care about choosing the name of my character. I mean i didn't get to choose my own name, my parents did that. It should be same in the game. Parents of the PC should choose his name. Therefore I'm fine with a unisex name.

By that logic you shouldn't get to choose the character's gender, looks etc. either.




Its a RPG, I want as much player customisation and choice as feasible. Unique and chooseable first names definitely fits the bill.

[Nerys]

Hey wasn't there a thread very like this not long ago? Anyway...
I prefer to choose my own name for RP reasons, and as a way to differentiate my save-games. I do like the idea of nicknames though. In particular nicknames used by one's love interest, since it is a little awkward for ones partner to refer to them by a title (such as "Grey Warden"), rather than a name (like "Hawke"). In my perfect world our LIs would have a special name for us, like Thane did for Commander Shepard in the ME world.

[Commander Kurt]

Lord Aesir wrote...

I brought up the nickname idea pages ago but nobody noticed...

It needn't be different for each companion. A unique pet name for each LI like Merril or Thane had would do wonders for those awkward moments though. Besides, how often do people really use one another's names in conversation? In my experience, friends only use one another's names either in greeting or in getting one another's attention. Anyone not as close can use the surname or title.

Preserving some element of customization is far higher on my list than an awkwardness issue that can be resolved in other ways.

Still no recognition..? I'm with you though, good thoughts.

[Miss Greyjoy]

While the idea isn't bad, there are two main problems for me, aside from the additional limits it puts on character creation. First, most unisex names sound way too modern for the setting (in my opinion). Second, when people talk about names that are "unisex", they usually mean masculine names that are sometimes given to girls. Can you imagine the craziness if the name were a more feminine-sounding unisex name like Dana, Leslie, Ashley, or Vivian? Actually, that might be pretty funny...

[hazarkazra]

Fast Jimmy wrote...
I agree. I met my wife six years ago and whenever I call her by her first name (or she mine) we both agree it is REALLY weird. 

I second this, I met my gf 7 years ago and it's the exact same thing. The only time I ever use her name is if I had to call out to her in a group of people and even that it feels so weird. So I wouldn't be against it if they just came up with some pet name for the times it would be awkward to not use a name.

Still, I stand by my earlier comment that I don't really see the difference in 'customisation' between a game where:
-you get to choose the first but not the last name of a character
- you get to choose the last but not the first name of a character.

It's the same limitation and I rather they pick the least jarring option, which is not letting you pick the first name. After all, its seems far more common in Thedas to refer to someone by his first name or his title then his last name. I can't think of a single person in the game that gets refered to by his last name, besides Hawke obviousy.

Modifié par hazarkazra, 14 mars 2013 - 10:30 .

[LPPrince]

 My first thought was Alex(since a name I love is Alexandria)

[schalafi]

Someone in an earlier thread said they should have named the female Hawk Serrah, and the male Hawk Messire. I think we should have a chance to name our pc like we had the chance to name our dog.

[Harle Cerulean]

Miss Greyjoy wrote...

While the idea isn't bad, there are two main problems for me, aside from the additional limits it puts on character creation. First, most unisex names sound way too modern for the setting (in my opinion). Second, when people talk about names that are "unisex", they usually mean masculine names that are sometimes given to girls. Can you imagine the craziness if the name were a more feminine-sounding unisex name like Dana, Leslie, Ashley, or Vivian? Actually, that might be pretty funny...

One of my favourite videogames stars a male protagonist named Ashley.  It was never a problem as far as I know.

[The Hierophant]

Harle Cerulean wrote...

One of my favourite videogames stars a male protagonist named Ashley.  It was never a problem as far as I know.

Vagrant Story?

[Harle Cerulean]

The Hierophant wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...

One of my favourite videogames stars a male protagonist named Ashley.  It was never a problem as far as I know.

Vagrant Story?

Bingo. :happy:   Of course, it's a somewhat different situation, in that people have an expectation of being able to shape their Dragon Age PCs, and no one went into VS thinking "I'm gonna make the PC into 'x' image!" and so more DA players would have issues with their male protag being named Ashley against their will, since their image wouldn't include that name... whereas Ashely Riot and his development are 100% the responsibility of the game's creators, not the player.

But frankly, that would be an issue for most first names, whether they were unisex or not.  A 'feminine' unisex name would only add a few more people to the list of irritated players.  Most players who didn't like it just wouldn't like not being able to choose the name, having it be a name more typically associated with females would just be a small part of it.

Modifié par Harle Cerulean, 15 mars 2013 - 12:41 .

[The Hierophant]

Harle Cerulean wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...

One of my favourite videogames stars a male protagonist named Ashley.  It was never a problem as far as I know.

Vagrant Story?

Bingo. :happy:   Of course, it's a somewhat different situation, in that people have an expectation of being able to shape their Dragon Age PCs, and no one went into VS thinking "I'm gonna make the PC into 'x' image!" and so more DA players would have issues with their male protag being named Ashley against their will, since their image wouldn't include that name... whereas Ashely Riot and his development are 100% the responsibility of the game's creators, not the player.

But frankly, that would be an issue for most first names, whether they were unisex or not.  A 'feminine' unisex name would only add a few more people to the list of irritated players.  Most players who didn't like it just wouldn't like not being able to choose the name, having it be a name more typically associated with females would just be a small part of it.

True, some players were already disillusioned with having a voiced pc(guilty as charged), who sounds nothing like what they envisioned for their character, plus having a fixed name that might sound fem would only add fuel to the fire. I wouldn't mind a unisex first name but respects the fact that other players would be pissed at having one due to feeling that some control of their character was taken away. 

If the devs were to use unisex last names aside from the animal ones(Hawke, Wolfe) Arin, Aedan and probably Jan depending on how they pronounce it, might not be so bad.

Plus...

"Reinforcements? I am the reinforcements." - Ashley Riot

Modifié par The Hierophant, 15 mars 2013 - 01:19 .

[Harle Cerulean]

The Hierophant wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Harle Cerulean wrote...

One of my favourite videogames stars a male protagonist named Ashley.  It was never a problem as far as I know.

Vagrant Story?

Bingo. :happy:   Of course, it's a somewhat different situation, in that people have an expectation of being able to shape their Dragon Age PCs, and no one went into VS thinking "I'm gonna make the PC into 'x' image!" and so more DA players would have issues with their male protag being named Ashley against their will, since their image wouldn't include that name... whereas Ashely Riot and his development are 100% the responsibility of the game's creators, not the player.

But frankly, that would be an issue for most first names, whether they were unisex or not.  A 'feminine' unisex name would only add a few more people to the list of irritated players.  Most players who didn't like it just wouldn't like not being able to choose the name, having it be a name more typically associated with females would just be a small part of it.

True, some players were already disillusioned with having a voiced pc(guilty as charged), who sounds nothing like what they envisioned for their character, plus having a fixed name that might sound fem would only add fuel to the fire. I wouldn't mind a unisex first name but respects the fact that other players would be pissed at having one due to feeling that some control of their character was taken away. 

If the devs were to use unisex last names aside from the animal ones(Hawke, Wolfe) Arin, Aedan and probably Jan depending on how they pronounce it, might not be so bad.

Plus...

"Reinforcements? I am the reinforcements." - Ashley Riot

Haha, for a man who wears pants with the buttcheeks cut out, Ashley is pretty badass.  One man army indeed.

And Vagrant Story's weapon customization is the kind of thing I'd love to see in the DA games - though perhaps with a bit more transparency about why certain combinations give you certain results.  Figuring the system out could take a loooong time in VS.

I find the idea of unisex last names interesting, and I'm not really sure I understand it.  In some cultures/languages, a surname changes depending on the sex of the person who has it - Bjornson vs Bjornsdottir, for example - but most surnames in English don't, to my knowledge.  I mean, I'm a woman, and my surname literally includes the word 'man', and no one thinks that's odd.  It's my family name, not my personal name, it's not expected to conform to my sex.

[Masha Potato]

Cuddlypoops is a good unisex name

[Hadea]

I prefer to be called "Sexy" in game, by everyone, including Qunari.

[Withidread]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I hate this idea. I still object to the fixed surname. That's also a terrible idea.

My first character in any fantasy CRPG is always "Sylvius the Mad". Any game that doesn't allow me that exact character name is a lesser game in my eyes.

I have a similar sentiment.

Without control over the character's name, the character is no longer mine. I am no longer taking on a guise and filling a role, I am an outside observer watching a story unfold. As far as I'm concerned at that point you may as well remove every aspect of player choice throughout the entire game and maybe start calling it an adventure or something.

[Jean]

Hadea wrote...

I prefer to be called "Sexy" in game, by everyone, including Qunari.

I like the way you think here. 

[Spicen]

Ah its been some time since i last came here and now on with the criticism..... I disagree completely with this topic. Everytime i play i name the character with my own nickname. So removal of that will be,uh, bad.

[Aleya]

No thanks. I keep track of which playthrough is which by the PC's first name and I've got certain names associated with certain moralities.

I'd prefer the use of a nickname of some sort by NPCs that the protagonist is close to.

[Heimdall]

Commander Kurt wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I brought up the nickname idea pages ago but nobody noticed...

It needn't be different for each companion. A unique pet name for each LI like Merril or Thane had would do wonders for those awkward moments though. Besides, how often do people really use one another's names in conversation? In my experience, friends only use one another's names either in greeting or in getting one another's attention. Anyone not as close can use the surname or title.

Preserving some element of customization is far higher on my list than an awkwardness issue that can be resolved in other ways.

Still no recognition..? I'm with you though, good thoughts.

Thanks

[Harle Cerulean]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Commander Kurt wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I brought up the nickname idea pages ago but nobody noticed...

It needn't be different for each companion. A unique pet name for each LI like Merril or Thane had would do wonders for those awkward moments though. Besides, how often do people really use one another's names in conversation? In my experience, friends only use one another's names either in greeting or in getting one another's attention. Anyone not as close can use the surname or title.

Preserving some element of customization is far higher on my list than an awkwardness issue that can be resolved in other ways.

Still no recognition..? I'm with you though, good thoughts.

Thanks

My issue with nicknames, particularly if they were to go the route of every companion calling you by a nickname, is that nicknames are offensive if someone hasn't earned the right to call you by one.  Nicknames assume familiarity, as do pet names.  Your LI calling you by a pet name?  Sure, if that fits their personality.  But you've hopefully established at least a certain level of familiarity with your LI before they start that.  J. Random Companion calling you, idk, 'Chuckles' out of the blue five seconds after meeting her?  Unless you're particularly personable, that's rude.  I have a name, use it until I say you can use something else.

And coming up with nicknames could be difficult.  You can't nickname the PC based on appearance because we can edit that.  Say they have a companion call you 'Red' because the default has red hair - well, that's nice, but if you don't play the default, it makes no sense.  Personality is similar.  Because it's not a pnp D&D or GURPS campaign, we can't have as much control over our PC's personality, but we still have some, within the guidelines of what is allowed us by the game's potential dialogue and actions.  A nickname based off personality could easily be jarring because we don't percieve our PC's personality that way.

And nicknames are generally based off four things: a name (which we are presuming isn't set, if we need a nickname for companions to call us by, so that doesn't work), looks (addressed), personality (addressed), or hobbies/occupation.  The latter only if it's something unusual enough to be worth comment by your friends.  This doesn't seem like it would work well, because we may have very different ideas of our PC's hobbies.  And when we're likely to have people calling us by job title used formally (if we are, in fact, an Inquisitor), having a job-based nickname wouldn't do much to make our friends seem particularly familiar.

Obviously, an LI could call us the cultural equivalent of "honey" or "sweetheart."  That's not an issue there, aside from avoiding too sappy-weird of things (unless it suits the LI's personality, I suppose!)

But nicknames are not a sure-fire route.  I wasn't entirely comfortable with Vega calling my f!Shep 'Lola' - he got away with it mainly because there's a certain amount of familiarity in their conversations before then.  I'm still less pleased with it than if he'd called her 'Loca' to match m!Shep's 'Loco' - f!Shep's previous actions are no less crazy than m!Shep's, and there's an uncomfortable feeling of "Okay, so Vega can nickname a man on his own merits, but a woman is clearly just like other women?"  IDK, maybe that one's just me - but either way, Shep is a much more defined character than our Dragon Age PCs, so nicknaming is easier.  The same thing in DA2 or DA:O would have bothered me a lot more.