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[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

The orders are still all signed by him.

Really, the smart thing would be to save the workers and call in the Normandy to shoot down Vido's gunship, but as you noted, paragon is fortuitously shielded from any negative repercussions.

Well, it's not like killing the evil leader of an evil, decentralized mercenary group (especially since he wasn't even the public leader, that was the batarian guy) is going to change the nature of the group's operations at all.

. Vido was the guy pulling strings, taking him out opens up new possibilities for the group.  The war asset description mentions this

"Despite their efforts to appear as a professional security force, the Blue Suns are more and more resembling a full blown crime-syndicate"

Killing Vido offered the Blue Suns to escape this.  They obviously don't....

[Steelcan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Actually, Solem something, the batarian who already publicly led the Blue Suns to begin with, takes over. Vosque's ascension seems to have happened later.

True, another weed will take his place, but that's no reason not to uproot this one.

If it's between that or nothing, maybe not, but when the alternative is leaving several people to die...

Never heard of "Solem" can you give a link?

Im guessing you also saved the hostages on Terra Nova?

[andy6915]

You got to love the implications of the Bioware writers that the ONLY person is the entire series to cheat on you is a black man... Who went on to have a cheat-baby pretty much right after and had the gull to proudly tell it to the woman he cheated on.

Does Bioware have no black people on their writing team to tell them when they might be writing something that could have bad implications?

[Zagardal]

_Syn_ wrote...

Zagardal wrote...

For me Jacob was just a token black dude, I always found him boring. That being said, the fact he can cheat on shepard did make him at least a bit more humorous. Cortez should have been in the story since ME2.

Nope. Tokenism means limited inclusion of an ethnic group right? I'm sure that is true for games like FFVII (Barrett) and Gears of War (Cole Train).

But not in this when you have the epic David Anderson. Jacob was extremely boring, and I think the writers didn't really know where to take his storyline, he has father issues (who doesn't?) Wants to do something about the missing colonies, wants Shepard to trust him, critical of Cerberus methods.

Yes, Anderson does exist, but you dont really interact with him in the second game beyond a few lines. Having that in mind, Jacob always felt like the slot filler.

[DeinonSlayer]

Xilizhra wrote...

True, another weed will take his place, but that's no reason not to uproot this one.

If it's between that or nothing, maybe not, but when the alternative is leaving several people to die...

I was willing to sacrifice three engineers to ensure that a terrorist who tried to kill millions and nearly succeeded would never get another chance. I sacrificed dozens so Koris could later save millions. But stopping Vido's comparatively lesser offenses, capitulating to an insubordinate merc in the process, was not worth the price being asked.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 13 mars 2013 - 09:51 .

[KBomb]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@OP:
Now that Citadel DLC gives me an appropriate response to Jacob, I'm tempted to revive my Jacob-romancing femShep. Now that I know what will happen and am not surprised by Jacob's treatment, it makes for an acceptable little story.

Apart from that, cheating does not warrant death. Not even from my temperamental Renegade.

Ooh, I missed this. What does femShep say to him?

[Catalinaeva]

andy69156915 wrote...

You got to love the implications of the Bioware writers that the ONLY person is the entire series to cheat on you is a black man... Who went on to have a cheat-baby pretty much right after and had the gull to proudly tell it to the woman he cheated on.

Does Bioware have no black people on their writing team to tell them when they might be writing something that could have bad implications?

I was telling a friend of mine about this a few days ago. Bioware should have made it where other characters besides Jacob could cheat, too; that way, it wouldn't look like race was being brought into the subject.

[Catalinaeva]

KBomb wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

@OP:
Now that Citadel DLC gives me an appropriate response to Jacob, I'm tempted to revive my Jacob-romancing femShep. Now that I know what will happen and am not surprised by Jacob's treatment, it makes for an acceptable little story.

Apart from that, cheating does not warrant death. Not even from my temperamental Renegade.

Ooh, I missed this. What does femShep say to him?

If you choose to be straight Renegade, Shepard gets mad and says something along the lines of: "Hey, Shepard? Happy to see you? That's it? Am I supposed to forget about what you did to me?" Jacob then asks what's wrong with her, and that he thought they were "good;" if Shepard hits the Renegade option, she'll slap Jacob. He'll say that he deserved that, and that he's a lot more like his father than he thought. He further states that he'll try to make things right with Brynn, the unborn baby, and Shepard if he can. Shepard can then say see you around.

If Shepard chooses to play Renegade without hitting the Renegade option, she'll just say they still have things to talk about, and she doesn't slap him. If she decides to be Paragon, she and Jacob will play a casino game together.

Here's a video to be more specific.

Modifié par Catalinaeva, 13 mars 2013 - 11:01 .

[NovaBlastMarketing]

wow ... even for renegade.... you don't think that is going overboard ...just a bit op ?

[Bizantura]

Kataphrut94 wrote...


Yelling and slapping is a much better alternative because that's what women do in real life.

Excuse me !!!  Hope we never encounter one an other in real life but I guarantee there won't be any yelling or slapping
involved!! 

[_Syn_]

I'd feel very uncomfortable if I heard that idea for Jacob floating around for the script, I wonder if anybody stood up and expressed their concern.

[KBomb]

Catalinaeva wrote...


If you choose to be straight Renegade, Shepard gets mad and says something along the lines of: "Hey, Shepard? Happy to see you? That's it? Am I supposed to forget about what you did to me?" Jacob then asks what's wrong with her, and that he thought they were "good;" if Shepard hits the Renegade option, she'll slap Jacob. He'll say that he deserved that, and that he's a lot more like his father than he thought. He further states that he'll try to make things right with Brynn, the unborn baby, and Shepard if he can. Shepard can then say see you around.

If Shepard chooses to play Renegade without hitting the Renegade option, she'll just say they still have things to talk about, and she doesn't slap him. If she decides to be Paragon, she and Jacob will play a casino game together.

Here's a video to be more specific.

Thanks. I actually like the renegade option. Though both are pretty good. I doubt I would want to give him the satisfaction of knowing he provoked enough emotion in me to slap him. It was still nice to see lol.

[Giantdeathrobot]

This guy I had sex with once and whom I haven't see for more than six months got into a serious relashionship? Let's kill them both!!!

I just hope some of you folks are kidding.

[spirosz]

Wait.

Shepard can easily cheat on anyone, so should Shepard be left to die?

I'm sorry, I've seen some dumb threads, but this one, oh this one.  

Modifié par spirosz, 13 mars 2013 - 11:09 .

[_Syn_]

I don't think it's an issue of casual sex, it's an issue with race. At least with me.

[MegaSovereign]

Cue the Overly-attached Girlfriend memes.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 13 mars 2013 - 11:23 .

[Catalinaeva]

KBomb wrote...

Catalinaeva wrote...


If you choose to be straight Renegade, Shepard gets mad and says something along the lines of: "Hey, Shepard? Happy to see you? That's it? Am I supposed to forget about what you did to me?" Jacob then asks what's wrong with her, and that he thought they were "good;" if Shepard hits the Renegade option, she'll slap Jacob. He'll say that he deserved that, and that he's a lot more like his father than he thought. He further states that he'll try to make things right with Brynn, the unborn baby, and Shepard if he can. Shepard can then say see you around.

If Shepard chooses to play Renegade without hitting the Renegade option, she'll just say they still have things to talk about, and she doesn't slap him. If she decides to be Paragon, she and Jacob will play a casino game together.

Here's a video to be more specific.

Thanks. I actually like the renegade option. Though both are pretty good. I doubt I would want to give him the satisfaction of knowing he provoked enough emotion in me to slap him. It was still nice to see lol.

For some odd reason, when I see default FemShep get angry (like in the video above), she reminds me of Chucky from "Child's Play."

[KBomb]

Catalinaeva wrote...


For some odd reason, when I see default FemShep get angry (like in the video above), she reminds me of Chucky from "Child's Play."

lol Now that you mention it.

Femshep: We're friends 'till the end, Jacob, remember? *stabs him in the face*

[Funkdrspot]

andy69156915 wrote...

You got to love the implications of the Bioware writers that the ONLY person is the entire series to cheat on you is a black man... Who went on to have a cheat-baby pretty much right after and had the gull to proudly tell it to the woman he cheated on.

Does Bioware have no black people on their writing team to tell them when they might be writing something that could have bad implications?

Wasn't Shep locked up for 6-9 months between ME2 and ME3? When did they say they were dating exclusively? 
You guys act like you've never been in a relationship before. Just because you have sex doesn't mean you're dating exclusively and if you're locked down for 6-9 months without calling/writing then what else do you expect?

[Funkdrspot]

spirosz wrote...

Wait.

Shepard can easily cheat on anyone, so should Shepard be left to die?

I'm sorry, I've seen some dumb threads, but this one, oh this one.  

You have to remember that a few people on this forum aren't emotionally stable or emotionally mature.

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

KainD wrote...

Rulid wrote...

Who's Jacob?

One of the main Twilight saga characters. 

I laughed too much at this. 

[Galbrant]

For once OP... I agree with you. But since Cerberus is going to assimilate them anyway.... I say we drop a couple bombs to keep them from becoming a threat to us later....

[KBomb]

Funkdrspot wrote...

Wasn't Shep locked up for 6-9 months between ME2 and ME3? When did they say they were dating exclusively? 
You guys act like you've never been in a relationship before. Just because you have sex doesn't mean you're dating exclusively and if you're locked down for 6-9 months without calling/writing then what else do you expect?

That argument is a little silly and can be applied to every single romance in the game. I would have loved to see the results of Tali, Liara or Garrus cheating on Shep and then saying the relationship wasn't exclusive anyway. **** would have got real. It also wasn't just the cheating, it was poor writing and assassination of a character--well liked or not.

As I said, no one would have been saying "You act like no one has ever been in a relationship before!" if one of the beloveds had stepped out. That being said.... it's beyond bizarre that someone wishes the death of another because of infidelity and I am hoping this thread was made in cheeky jest.

Modifié par KBomb, 14 mars 2013 - 01:21 .

[Aaleel]

This idea is a little out there, no I mean really out there and the fact there are people seriously agreeing with this is amazing.

Modifié par Aaleel, 14 mars 2013 - 01:19 .

[WarGriffin]

Zagardal wrote...

_Syn_ wrote...

Zagardal wrote...

For me Jacob was just a token black dude, I always found him boring. That being said, the fact he can cheat on shepard did make him at least a bit more humorous. Cortez should have been in the story since ME2.

Nope. Tokenism means limited inclusion of an ethnic group right? I'm sure that is true for games like FFVII (Barrett) and Gears of War (Cole Train).

But not in this when you have the epic David Anderson. Jacob was extremely boring, and I think the writers didn't really know where to take his storyline, he has father issues (who doesn't?) Wants to do something about the missing colonies, wants Shepard to trust him, critical of Cerberus methods.

Yes, Anderson does exist, but you dont really interact with him in the second game beyond a few lines. Having that in mind, Jacob always felt like the slot filler.

I think originally they were thinknig of Kaidan and Ashley, when they gave you Miranda and Jacob.

IE in ME1 if you ask there opinion
Kaidan tends to be more logical and cautious, IE While he thinks you letting the Rachni queen go at that moment without outside input was foolhardy he doesn't fault you for letting her live, Ie more Paragon
Ashley tends to be more renegade, and favors the more violent yet simple solution to the issue. Shot first deal with the consquences later.


I think in ME2 you would have had something similar, Jacob would desire more compassionate and moral decsions while Miranda favored Pragmatism and effiecency.

Hence why the Virtue of ones character is a big part of Jacob's character -whoops!-

ME2 then devolves into Dr Shepard dealing with thier personal demons and family issues... and suddenly you miss Kaidan being fairly sane.