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#201
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Drunkencelt wrote...
4. Heavy melee- now fires super fast, and lines up headshots with whatever gun you are using. I believe it is too fast for charge weapons that have to reload a lot. Kishok is a bad choice due to mod selection and Graal slows dps.

They don't normally line up headshots, IIRC.  In fact, I never got a headshot lined up with the HM.

Otherwise, I'll be building him the same way, and probably using a GPS (for OmniBlade OmniBow fun) + Scorpion (Power Mod staggered Cain Nuking)

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I got some Omni-Bow headshots, but not on mooks. I think I got a HS medal once when I killed a Praetorian with the bow.

EDIT: Which I took as a glitch anyway, because melee/powers don't score headshots IIRC.

Modifié par stysiaq, 13 mars 2013 - 05:44 .


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What actually is the "keybindings issue"?

And the Thermal Clips bug for that matter.

I'm on PC and, as far as I know, I've never had either.

As a side note; I don't spam Cain Trip mines. I rarely use them (except as they're intended to be used; for holding choke points) despite their effectiveness. I find them boring compared with the more interesting bow. Could I drop it down to 3 ranks without significantly impairing its killing potential for lower level enemies? I don't care about its effectiveness on bosses.

Modifié par IndigoVitare, 13 mars 2013 - 06:54 .


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Jack Crapper wrote...

Drunkencelt wrote...
4. Heavy melee- now fires super fast, and lines up headshots with whatever gun you are using. I believe it is too fast for charge weapons that have to reload a lot. Kishok is a bad choice due to mod selection and Graal slows dps.

They don't normally line up headshots, IIRC.  In fact, I never got a headshot lined up with the HM.

Otherwise, I'll be building him the same way, and probably using a GPS (for OmniBlade OmniBow fun) + Scorpion (Power Mod staggered Cain Nuking)

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I get head shots freely lined up about 60 percent of the time. The rest ends up being dead center 

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Bah. Been running him a couple of games with the melee+AP arrows build now. And tbh after a while of constant dying I went back to mine spamming and life was a thousand times better.

The bow flat out fails to fire in perhaps 25 percent of the cases. And then you die. Or you just die from trying to fire it.

I really want to love this guy. But even with the massive buff to the bow (which was indeed ludicrously bad before) its just better to use a gun IMHO.

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Jack Crapper wrote...

Drunkencelt wrote...
4. Heavy melee- now fires super fast, and lines up headshots with whatever gun you are using. I believe it is too fast for charge weapons that have to reload a lot. Kishok is a bad choice due to mod selection and Graal slows dps.

They don't normally line up headshots, IIRC.  In fact, I never got a headshot lined up with the HM.

Otherwise, I'll be building him the same way, and probably using a GPS (for OmniBlade OmniBow fun) + Scorpion (Power Mod staggered Cain Nuking)

If they're ducking in cover when you line up the shot via autoaim it will hit them in the head usually. I got twenty headshots in a Geth game with the Graal without even aiming once. It has really improved my game while drunken not having to aim. :D

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Anybody know,how to fix bug with missing points at level 20(2 points missing)?

Modifié par zorinho20, 13 mars 2013 - 07:43 .


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zorinho20 wrote...

Anybody know,how to fix bug with missing points at level 20(2 points missing)?

If you haven't specced into him try dashboarding first and it should fix it.

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

zorinho20 wrote...

Anybody know,how to fix bug with missing points at level 20(2 points missing)?

If you haven't specced into him try dashboarding first and it should fix it.

Not sure,what do you think by"dashboarding"

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zorinho20 wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

zorinho20 wrote...

Anybody know,how to fix bug with missing points at level 20(2 points missing)?

If you haven't specced into him try dashboarding first and it should fix it.

Not sure,what do you think by"dashboarding"

Hit silver button in middle of controller, Xbox home, restart multiplayer, most likely you're fixed without having to respec with a card.

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Yep. His AP arrows are incredibly powerful now. I've used him against all factions and it's amazing how godly they are.

In other news, Concussive Arrows are now useless.The AP arrows already deal a great ammount of damage vs shields and barriers, and knocking minions around is a joke in comparison to killing them in one cast.

Modifié par MetalDeggial, 13 mars 2013 - 08:06 .


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On gold, he is awesome. On platinum, everyone brings in premium guns, and his AP arrows still aren't fast enough to compete with guns. You gotta activate then heavy melee. Yes, his heavy melee is fast now, but it's still a 2 step process. A gun shoots nearly instantaneously. On platinum, I mainly use the arrows to debuff before using my gun to take the enemies down. So far, I've tried the Wraith and Crusader with him on platinum, and prefer the Crusader. I'm going to try the Piranha on him next.

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Just tried him on platinum. Kind of struggled with banshee's and phantoms, seems they put up their shields anytime they are hit with a bow, and cain mines only seem to hit banshees if you are spamming them at their feet. Might keep the talon on gold until I figure a way around it. Just targeting mooks seems a waste.

Also noticed that I have a really hard time dodging banshee's ranged attack, haven't had that problem with any other character since they patched it.

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Just tried your build out in a gold game, and while I sucked with it (I need to l2p), I did notice the AP arrows dealing a nice amount of damage.

He's going to take some getting used to. I'm also going to have to switch to another shotgun. The GPS didn't feel right.

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Dang, I hope they don't hit him with the nerf-bat, that would be ridiculous.

Most likely, considering people won't shut up about him.

Hopefully they won't though, to compensate for the bugginess of the mines and keybindings on PC.

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Im thinking I might try the suppresor on him. Melee + power mod and just a quick headshot anything that is staggered by the bow. Might be weaker against bosses though.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

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Hey MB we should catch some games sometime


We should.



That would be awesome.:D

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After reading your post earlier I rebuilt, yet again, pretty much a mirror of yours, ran the eagle as I have pistol mastery almost finished and didn`t feel I would use it much, ran the new power mag on the pistol, engineering kit, cyclonic III, did two random golds, OMFG.....first match was Glacier with Cerbie, thank the random gods that was fun, I fired the bow and led the enemy to my mines, making sure they were planted at the end of a wave close to a spawn.

Game two was Goddess Reepers, once again this thing is simply amazing.

As you noted health is going to take some getting used to, thank god the bow works and man does it work well.

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So I ran into another keybinding headache with this guy. I've been trying different shotguns with him, and realized that I cannot reload cancel because of the keybinding. So, difficulty with ops survival and reload cancel makes him a little tough on platinum. I really like the Crusader for it's speed and fast reload on him.

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

zorinho20 wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

zorinho20 wrote...

Anybody know,how to fix bug with missing points at level 20(2 points missing)?

If you haven't specced into him try dashboarding first and it should fix it.

Not sure,what do you think by"dashboarding"

Hit silver button in middle of controller, Xbox home, restart multiplayer, most likely you're fixed without having to respec with a card.


You know... not everyone plays on the same system... you also could have looked at his linked Manifest to see that he plays on PC.

zorinho20, try selecting a different character and looking at their powers, THEN go back to the Talon and look at his powers.  That method fixes the "too many skill points" bug, so maybe it will fix the "not enough skill points" bug?

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I tried him today. I took grenade capacity, but funnily, my grenades were always full. Guess I will just take Hydraulic joints. I was killing enemies pretty fast with him today, although died a lot of times too.

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zorinho20 wrote...

Anybody know,how to fix bug with missing points at level 20(2 points missing)?

Don't put points in one arrow power. Done.

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I think conc arrows are only better for closer ranges. If you stay back anyway, AP bows are worth the time more

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b00g13man wrote...

Just tried your build out in a gold game, and while I sucked with it (I need to l2p), I did notice the AP arrows dealing a nice amount of damage.

He's going to take some getting used to. I'm also going to have to switch to another shotgun. The GPS didn't feel right.


yeah, i'm also looking for a good shotgun for him. i want that omni blade of course. so far the crusader and wraith work fine, i like the crusader better. a kit where i CAN use my crusader at last. maybe it's less frustrating since i rarely shoot with it :D

i want to try the reegar too, because basically he doesn't even need a long range weapon (there is the bow for that), but he can suck at close range where the bow is a bit slow (considering his very low fitness). however i know with the reegar he would be godlike, too easy :D so i think the crusader will be the final choice (and as i said, at least i can use this weapon on one kit).

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robarcool wrote...

zorinho20 wrote...

Anybody know,how to fix bug with missing points at level 20(2 points missing)?

Don't put points in one arrow power. Done.

Easier say than do,because I miss 2 points to max some other skill(Fitness).
But,I don´t care.I won´t play that kit and problem solved.
BW-it is your fault:crying: