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[Creature0fHabit]

 I had to post this because it's happening a lot. Were taking on a banshee and the Jugg runs up to take agro. He immediately throws up his giant shield right in front of her and starts a heavy melee. Now we have to shoot HIS shield out before even hitting the banshee. 
This happens contently with randoms, when you have a team you can explain it and they understand whats going on but randoms wont listen, in fact they do it more because they think it's funny.
I don't like kicking people out of rooms but throwing up a huge shield every chance you get which provides 0 cover and gives the enemy more shields will win you a red X. Throw that bad boy on your flank or provide cover on a doorway. Don't block the doorway with it just off to the side to leave an opening for shots.  

Modifié par Creature0fHabit, 13 mars 2013 - 06:18 .

[DullahansXMark]

TrollShield, activate!

[Kataigida]

If I'm playing a Jugg, I only ever do that when I'm alone, that way I can deal the DoT damage to the boss while draining it. That and to provide myself with some cover from other enemies.

When I'm in a group though, I try to refrain from shielding unless I see some sort of barrage unit placing itself to blast me with a Rocket or Cannon.

[Creature0fHabit]

Kataigida wrote...

If I'm playing a Jugg, I only ever do that when I'm alone, that way I can deal the DoT damage to the boss while draining it. That and to provide myself with some cover from other enemies.

When I'm in a group though, I try to refrain from shielding unless I see some sort of barrage unit placing itself to blast me with a Rocket or Cannon.

If people were only that aware of their teammates. 

[sandboxgod]

Maybe the Juggy wanted to have a 1-vs-1 fight with the Banshee? LOL.

But yeah when I play the Juggy I try to put my hex shield to the side to block incoming fire. Since my teammates are usually not right beside me (but rather might be further back in the rear)- this works.

[VaultingFrog]

I tend to stick my Hex Shield behind her when doing that or right in the middle so she is half in and half out. That way you can still hit her and she gets damage for going "through" my shield. But unfortunately its placement is not always exact, in which case I take it upon myself to get it reset as soon as possible.

[sandboxgod]

Yeah the hex shield does just a little bit of damage if you spec the offensive side so it might get a little tempting to drop the shield halfway, etc.

[UEG Donkey]

I don't know why people are so melee happy with the Jug. I run full fitness with a shield booster and Cyclonic and a Typhoon and Reegar. I use the hex shield to boost power and block heavy ranged shots. I can typically just kill the banshee(s) and everything else stacking up on me with a limited amount of melee. Just go kill other stuff and come back when the spawn wave is depleted if the shield is in the way just leave it kill other stuff I'll be fine as long as you kill that trio of marauders and that ravager behind me.

[buthane22]

Totally agree with you OP.

But...

You're You're You're You're You're You're You're You're You're You're You're You're You're You're

Sorry, had to be done.

Modifié par buthane22, 13 mars 2013 - 06:35 .

[Ramsutin]

What I think those kind of people think when they do that

[FranksterJF]

I don't even spec into shields. I spec for siege shot and turret.

[bogsters23]

when i tank banshees i put the shields behind it.

[Upfunkt]

I do it to set up tech bursts if i'm getting swarmed. I'm not one of those players that just spam heavy melee on bosses though. When I'm that close to a Banshee, she's getting two hundred rounds to the face.

[Nydus Templar]

That shield is their privacy screen, you're intruding on their special time.

Geth Juggernaut [Slam] Banshee.

New class unlocked. Gethshee.

Modifié par Nydus Templar, 13 mars 2013 - 06:45 .

[Charane]

Just move to the side and shoot around, its no big deal

[Creature0fHabit]

Charane wrote...

Just move to the side and shoot around, its no big deal

It's a big deal when it's a big shield in a confined space. Glacier is a pain with the huge shield. If he uses the smaller shield then it isn't a huge deal...unless your the talon merc.

[RGB]

I play angry.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Sorry, OP, but I'm not going to stop doing that.

The shield blocks the Banshee Warp Ball. I do the same thing to Atlases, Scions, Praetorians, and, now that it will work, Geth Primes.

You should be using Right Hand Advantage with Juggys. Either around the Hex Shield, or around the Juggy, himself, if he is standing behind it.

I play with Juggys regularly, and when one puts up a Shield to lock down a Boss, I appreciate it, because they're simultaneously protecting us from ranged fire, and synch-kills.

Banshees and Praetorians will typically switch to Melee in that situation, so it can be redundant, but if you have to kite backwards as a Juggy to avoid getting overwhelmed, seeing an Atlas shot/Banshee ball that would have killed you bounce of the Hex Shield is a relief.

(Just in case, Right Hand Advantage is when you shoot around the right side of an object, and it allows you to use that object to block enemy shots while you, yourself can still hit.)

And when a Juggy is locking down a boss, you shouldn't be shooting the boss, anyway, you should be taking that opportunity to kill the mooks, or use crowd-control attacks. The exception might be a Praetorian, who can still stunlock a Juggy to death, if they are taking damage from multiple sources, or get stuck up against an object.

Good luck with your next Juggy Pug! 

Modifié par Jeremiah12LGeek, 13 mars 2013 - 06:52 .

[Upfunkt]

Creature0fHabit wrote...

Charane wrote...

Just move to the side and shoot around, its no big deal

It's a big deal when it's a big shield in a confined space. Glacier is a pain with the huge shield. If he uses the smaller shield then it isn't a huge deal...unless your the talon merc.

Damage Synergy is the better option, imo. It doesn't obstruct the team and it's perfectly designed for the Juggie to fire over, while still having protection.

[Wild Wolfie]

You have to realise this works both ways.
People who don't play the Juggy don't always realise that the melee replenishes the Juggy's own shield. Although they seem invincible their shield does deplete if too many enemies are hitting them. Once committed they can't run away from being swarmed by enemies like other characters can and they have to use their shield to take cover from enemy fire other than that of the enemy they are using melee on.
I know it can be frustrating for those who are trying to shoot the same enemy but alot of the time it's not to troll you but just to give their shields a chance to replenish.
It's also frustrating playing as a Juggy when every other character decides to shoot the enemy you are draining because it's an easy kill leaving you with your butt hanging out to the four winds with depleted shields. If players would take out some of the enemies firing at the Juggy from a greater distance or attacking him from the side rather than at the enemy he is using melee on then he would not need to put up his shield as often.

Modifié par Wild Wolfie, 13 mars 2013 - 11:31 .

[A4RiZ0812]

X-men 3 really was rank.
People get confused I guess since the enemy walks through they think everything will go through but still somehow protect the juggy!
I try to place the shield behind the banshee and take a step back so don't suffer anymore hits.

can 'our' bulletes damage the shield, friendly fire?

[animedreamer]

Creature0fHabit wrote...

 I had to post this because it's happening a lot. Were taking on a banshee and the Jugg runs up to take agro. He immediately throws up his giant shield right in front of her and starts a heavy melee. Now we have to shoot HIS shield out before even hitting the banshee. 
This happens contently with randoms, when you have a team you can explain it and they understand whats going on but randoms wont listen, in fact they do it more because they think it's funny.
I don't like kicking people out of rooms but throwing up a huge shield every chance you get which provides 0 cover and gives the enemy more shields will win you a red X. Throw that bad boy on your flank or provide cover on a doorway. Don't block the doorway with it just off to the side to leave an opening for shots.  

it depends on what shield the Juggy has, if its the wide shield then that's a valid complaint, but the small shield you can usually easily shoot the bosses in the head by simply aiming above the shield. also if any part of the boss is through the shield then you shouldn't have a problem, as its open to be shot.

Modifié par animedreamer, 13 mars 2013 - 06:58 .

[Creature0fHabit]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

Sorry, OP, but I'm not going to stop doing that.

The shield blocks the Banshee Warp Ball. I do the same thing to Atlases, Scions, Praetorians, and, now that it will work, Geth Primes.

You should be using Right Hand Advantage with Juggys. Either around the Hex Shield, or around the Juggy, himself, if he is standing behind it.

I play with Juggys regularly, and when one puts up a Shield to lock down a Boss, I appreciate it, because they're simultaneously protecting us from ranged fire, and synch-kills.

Banshees and Praetorians will typically switch to Melee in that situation, so it can be redundant, but if you have to kite backwards as a Juggy to avoid getting overwhelmed, seeing an Atlas shot/Banshee ball that would have killed you bounce of the Hex Shield is a relief.

(Just in case, Right Hand Advantage is when you shoot around the right side of an object, and it allows you to use that object to block enemy shots while you, yourself can still hit.)

And when a Juggy is locking down a boss, you shouldn't be shooting the boss, anyway, you should be taking that opportunity to kill the mooks, or use crowd-control attacks. The exception might be a Praetorian, who can still stunlock a Juggy to death, if they are taking damage from multiple sources, or get stuck up against an object.

Good luck with your next Juggy Pug! 

Then use a smaller sized shield. How am I supposed to get right hand advantage when it's being blocked by cover or in a doorway? Kill the mooks? Sure after I destroy the shield that's blocking my fire...wow some people.