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I've rarely encountered any douchebags when playing ME3, at least for the PC. Come to think of it, I must've lucked out and managed to avoid all the jerks while playing games like BF3, Crysis 2, Dark Souls, and FFXI. There's plenty of cheaters about though.

Playing competitive multiplayer games for the Xbox 360 on the other hand...

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For me the ME community has been very cool to be a part of. I have only had one tool bother me. And that was in this past plat challenge. I was a volus. This person spoke non stop threats, insults, cursing, etc... He tried his best to belittle me. It didn't work.

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Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


You apparently lack the reading comprehension skills to understand what I am saying, as being called a retard has nothing to do with what i wrote.

Lol at you trying to "demasculate" me. That is one of the first things a lesser-man goes for

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Draining Dragon wrote...

Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.

I think his point was more that some people have the inability to see why others can't handle the things said. And to answer your second line...it sucks. :P

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Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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The thing to remember about bullying online is that the bullies only act that way because they aren't saying it to your face. If we were all in the same room together right now, we'd all act differently, I'm sure.

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Draining Dragon wrote...

GreenFalcon13 wrote...

Kinom001 wrote...

It's easy for someone to say "deal with it" when they're not the one being threatened with rape or worse. Empathy is a formidable means of understanding. People should try it. F*ck it, people should f'n use it.

Imagine if something like what was said to the lady in the video was said to your sister/mother/girlfriend/wife/daughter/niece? At what point are the words "deal with it" acceptable to say to them? My answer is never.



THIS.

Hit the nail on the head. I agree People need to put theirselves in "other's shoes"


I'm happy to say that none of the people I associate with are so spineless.

Words only have as much power as you give them. You can't be harmed by somebody saying "hhhhhur ur dur i iz gon rapez u" unless you choose to let it harm you.


Or a 15 year old girl playing an online video game. It scared the hell out of my niece.

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painforest wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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And this is what we in the gaming community call a 40 Year Old Virgin.

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Original Stikman wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


You apparently lack the reading comprehension skills to understand what I am saying, as being called a retard has nothing to do with what i wrote.

Lol at you trying to "demasculate" me. That is one of the first things a lesser-man goes for


You claimed I lack emotional capacity. It's interesting that you came to this conclusion from my philosophy of "sticks and stones", which is what I was referring to with the first statement.

And I didn't try to "demasculate" you. You tried to "demasculate" me by basically saying "I get lots of chicks bro, I bet you don't get any".

Also, in case you were wondering, mine's bigger.

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painforest wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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You mean you can read that without laughing out loud at the sheer stupidity and rage being expressed in such a concise format?

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Seriously people this has devolved into yet another "I am right! You are wrong!" crap arguement. Stuff like this qualifies as bullying as well if you didnt realize it.

Pathetic people... pathetic.

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KiraTsukasa wrote...

painforest wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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And this is what we in the gaming community call a 40 Year Old Virgin.


Clearly. I mean he argued with us for like 15 min and defended the merits of missionary over girl on top.
Also, I would like to point out that it was him, myself and my two male friends in the lobby. I was the only one who recieved a message like this.

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That's disgusting. Still, if they're that much of a coward that they only insult people when anonymous, then there's no reason to give a f*ck.

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VaultingFrog wrote...

Seriously people this has devolved into yet another "I am right! You are wrong!" crap arguement. Stuff like this qualifies as bullying as well if you didnt realize it.

Pathetic people... pathetic.


We've been exchanging ad hominem attacks for the past 3 pages.

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painforest wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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Did he get banned? I can't find his manifest.

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(sigh)

On many levels, I think the themes here are worthy of discussion: bullying and the conduct of players in multigame space in general is an important topic. Doubly so if people wish to extol the virtues or decry the behavioral vices of ME3 multiplay gamers. So I am, in a way, loathed to lock this thread.

On the other hand, what do we see in this discussion-- quote pyramids (which either indicate a highly emotional argument or merely a desire to spam-- neither of which is desirable here) and personal attacks. Charges that people are retarded (I hate that word!), emasculated, or illiterate.

What is to be done? What to be done?

I think we'll leave this thread open for now, with this important caveat: Anyone who is engaged in the poor behavior I outlined above needs to stop, immediately, or they will be banned without further warning. If the thread continues to veer off-topic, then it will be locked and my not be restarted.

Clear?

Thank you,

RI

EDIT:  I should also mention, discussing the behavior of particular players is also out of bounds from here on out.  There is a thread pinned towards the top of the forum that decribes how to report "cheaters", etc.  You also have the ablility to block private messages from users, both on this forum and on the Xbox system, should it be needed.  That will have to suffice.

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 14 mars 2013 - 01:50 .


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VaultingFrog wrote...

Seriously people this has devolved into yet another "I am right! You are wrong!" crap arguement. Stuff like this qualifies as bullying as well if you didnt realize it.

Pathetic people... pathetic.

I agree this is getting trollish

#243
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Draining Dragon wrote...

painforest wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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You mean you can read that without laughing out loud at the sheer stupidity and rage being expressed in such a concise format?


You're right that I find this particular instance funny. Doesn't mean that I haven't had numerious negative experiences online that I didn't find funny.

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painforest wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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should get disciple888 on him.

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painforest wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

painforest wrote...

Draining Dragon wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

I am starting to notice something.

In my life, i have had the pleasure of having a diverse array of friends, ranging form various backgrounds, ethnicity, and genders.

The most prevailing narrative I have heard when developing my relationships with women, platonic and intimate, have been one of sexual mistreatment. Many of the females I have met (i grew up in a middle upper class neighboorhood, area/town and have lived in densely urban populated areas and in other countries as well) have entrusted me enough to share their experiences of sexual assault. Some happened as children, others happened as adolescents, and a few as adults.

I am starting to question as to whether or not Stardusk and the like have ever had the opportunity to actually develop a relationship, platonic or intimate, with multiple women who share those deeply personal feelings and experiences.

Then i start wondering if they actually lack the emotional capacity for a women to even share with them for the first place, which begets the idea that they may never have had an emotionally involved relationship (again, platonic or intimate) with a woman.


Being able to handle someone calling me a retard online does not mean I lack emotional capacity.

I'm wondering how you handle being unable to take even the slightest insult without bursting into tears.


wut about this

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And this is what we in the gaming community call a 40 Year Old Virgin.


Clearly. I mean he argued with us for like 15 min and defended the merits of missionary over girl on top.
Also, I would like to point out that it was him, myself and my two male friends in the lobby. I was the only one who recieved a message like this.


Wow. I... wow.

Everyone knows having the girl on top is at least ten times sexier. :?

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RaenImrahl wrote...

(sigh)

On many levels, I think the themes here are worthy of discussion: bullying and the conduct of players in multigame space in general is an important topic. Doubly so if people wish to extol the virtues or decry the behavioral vices of ME3 multiplay gamers. So I am, in a way, loathed to lock this thread.

On the other hand, what do we see in this discussion-- quote pyramids (which either indicate a highly emotional argument or merely a desire to spam-- neither of which is desirable here) and personal attacks. Charges that people are retarded (I hate that word!), emasculated, or illiterate.

What is to be done? What to be done?

I think we'll leave this thread open for now, with this important caveat: Anyone who is engaged in the poor behavior I outlined above needs to stop, immediately, or they will be banned without further warning. If the thread continues to veer off-topic, then it will be locked and my not be restarted.

Clear?

Thank you,

RI


Will bans be permanent?

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RaenImrahl wrote...

(sigh)

On many levels, I think the themes here are worthy of discussion: bullying and the conduct of players in multigame space in general is an important topic. Doubly so if people wish to extol the virtues or decry the behavioral vices of ME3 multiplay gamers. So I am, in a way, loathed to lock this thread.

On the other hand, what do we see in this discussion-- quote pyramids (which either indicate a highly emotional argument or merely a desire to spam-- neither of which is desirable here) and personal attacks. Charges that people are retarded (I hate that word!), emasculated, or illiterate.

What is to be done? What to be done?

I think we'll leave this thread open for now, with this important caveat: Anyone who is engaged in the poor behavior I outlined above needs to stop, immediately, or they will be banned without further warning. If the thread continues to veer off-topic, then it will be locked and my not be restarted.

Clear?

Thank you,

RI

EDIT:  I should also mention, discussing the behavior of particular players is also out of bounds from here on out.  There is a thread pinned towards the top of the forum that decribes how to report "cheaters", etc.  You also have the ablility to block private messages from users, both on this forum and on the Xbox system, should it be needed.  That will have to suffice.



Thank you.

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RaenImrahl wrote...

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NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

PLEASE!

MAKE IT END!

Okay, a bit less dramatically, this discussion is past the point of no return. I could be wrong, but I don't think anybody who is currently engaged in this discussion would object to this thread being locked.

Also, this discussion isn't related to ME3 MP.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

Will bans be permanent?


As always, that depends on the user and the nature of the rules violation.  I cannot permanently ban users, but I can suggest that the admins do so.  My suggestions are rarely given but also rarely ignored.

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Draining Dragon wrote...

Okay, a bit less dramatically, this discussion is past the point of no return. I could be wrong, but I don't think anybody who is currently engaged in this discussion would object to this thread being locked.

Also, this discussion isn't related to ME3 MP.


Then you should move on to another thread.  Stop posting and let it sink to the abyss.