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[WarGriffin]

Honestly I'm glad Shepard's gone, due to the whole universe bends over backwards so Shepard is always right deal. No matter how you RP... Shepard was always bland due to nobody really questioning except if they were obviousily incompentent or EVIL.


The next set of squaddies should have more will and forwardness

Not Barely question you, and if you do something they think is wrong it don't matter they're back to being buddy buddy with you once you get back to the ship.

If you do stuff your squaddies dislike it should effect your relationship,

You playing one way might make them your best pal one playthrough, next there is clear animosity between the two of you and you two might try killing each other at any moment after it's hit its crest.


Essentially take KOTOR 2's influence system to its next step.

and I don't mean, Do X to get them loyal, or fill the relationship bar to get X conversation so you can start a romance.

I mean dynamic evolution that effects how you and that squadmate interact.

[David7204]

How about no.

[mumba]

If you're getting at a more diverse character system, then I agree.

[XI BlackHawx IX]

David7204 wrote...

How about no.

[Jukaga]

I fully agree. I would like the squaddies to have more independent personalities and mutually exclusive fates. No matter how hard you try, there should be some unavoidable deaths. By that I don't mean forced deaths at certain points but choices and consequences that lead to different survivors depending on your actions, alignment and choices.

[ConanTheLeader]

 Did you say no one question's Shepherd?

That's what went through the whole first game, even in the second one he was taken seriously only by Cerebus and it's in the third you can finally say "Ha! I was right all along"

[CDR David Shepard]

WarGriffin wrote...



The next set of squaddies should have more will and forwardness

Not Barely question you, and if you do something they think is wrong it don't matter they're back to being buddy buddy with you once you get back to the ship.

If you do stuff your squaddies dislike it should effect your relationship,   

Yes...because when Shepard lets the Geth destroy the Quarians it doesn't effect his relationship with Tali.

...or on the other side...letting the Quarians destroy the Geth doesn't effect his relationship with Legion.

I mean...with something that drastic...you would think that Tali would throw herself off a cliff...or that Legion would attack you.

If only the game made it so that "If you do stuff your squaddies dislike it should effect your relationship".

Oh wait...

Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 14 mars 2013 - 05:39 .

[HolyAvenger]

WarGriffin wrote...



The next set of squaddies should have more will and forwardness

Not Barely question you, and if you do something they think is wrong it don't matter they're back to being buddy buddy with you once you get back to the ship.

If you do stuff your squaddies dislike it should effect your relationship,   

It does. Have you seen what happens when you rat out Rael'Zorah to the Admiralty, for example?

[10K]

If you are talking about the love and hate system like in DA:O and DA2 then, no. ME is fine how it is.

[Strangewrex]

"next Minecraft, No More God Worship"
Didn't know there were religious tones in Minecraft, so I'll take your word for it.

[Skullheart]

Characters that don't hero worship Shepard:

- Wrex.
- Miranda.
- Jack.
- Javik.

You need to prove yourself to be competent before they start seeing you as someone worthy.

[crimzontearz]

Right.

No, I am not going to deal with CONSTANT bs from my party ala Morrigan from DAO....no thanks, if that is the case I will leave most of them at base camp/ship ALL the time

[DeinonSlayer]

I like the OP's idea. None of this meek pandering to the "hero's" will. You're in charge, but you're just a person. Others have opinions of their own; they aren't there just to validate your ego. If you murder Falere, I want to see Liara get pissed off. If you exterminate the Quarians, I want Garrus to knock your ass out in the shuttle bay. If you kill Mordin and Wrex AND the VS, your squad should be deeply disturbed by it. I thought it was great that Wrex and Legion try to kill you if you screw them over; Samara ought to have made good on her ME2 threats. Break up relationships. Lock out others. Drive people off the ship, even if it's just one person. There should be tangible repercussions for your actions.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 14 mars 2013 - 05:48 .

[HolyAvenger]

crimzontearz wrote...

Right.

No, I am not going to deal with CONSTANT bs from my party ala Morrigan from DAO....no thanks, if that is the case I will leave most of them at base camp/ship ALL the time

Morrigan disapproves (-8)

[Steelcan]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I like the OP's idea. None of this meek pandering to the "hero's" will. You're in charge, but you're just a person. Others have opinions of their own; they aren't there just to validate your ego. If you murder Falere, I want to see Liara get pissed off. If you exterminate the Quarians, I want Garrus to knock your ass out in the shuttle bay. If you kill Mordin and Wrex AND the VS, your squad should be deeply disturbed by it. Break up relationships. Lock out others. Drive people off the ship, even if it's just one person. There should be tangible repercussions for your actions.

. Careful.  "Choices mattering" is fightin words 'round here

[Cainhurst Crow]

So like dragon age and dragon age 2 with their "friendship/rivalry" system?

[crimzontearz]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Right.

No, I am not going to deal with CONSTANT bs from my party ala Morrigan from DAO....no thanks, if that is the case I will leave most of them at base camp/ship ALL the time

Morrigan disapproves (-8)

You guys must have been playing the game wrong; my Morrigan practically bled approval points.

Anyway, yes, more squadmate reactivity to our character's decisions would certainly be a good thing.

I do not play sociopathic a-holes

Reactivity is ok, constant BS is not

[DeinonSlayer]

Steelcan wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I like the OP's idea. None of this meek pandering to the "hero's" will. You're in charge, but you're just a person. Others have opinions of their own; they aren't there just to validate your ego. If you murder Falere, I want to see Liara get pissed off. If you exterminate the Quarians, I want Garrus to knock your ass out in the shuttle bay. If you kill Mordin and Wrex AND the VS, your squad should be deeply disturbed by it. Break up relationships. Lock out others. Drive people off the ship, even if it's just one person. There should be tangible repercussions for your actions.

. Careful.  "Choices mattering" is fightin words 'round here

I was going to add something about class interrupts, but given present company, that might qualify as flame bait. 

[crimzontearz]

HolyAvenger wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Right.

No, I am not going to deal with CONSTANT bs from my party ala Morrigan from DAO....no thanks, if that is the case I will leave most of them at base camp/ship ALL the time

Morrigan disapproves (-8)

-introduces Morrigan's face to an armor piercing N7 crusader's slug"

The universe approves + 25

[Battlebloodmage]

What about Kaidan/Ashley

They questioned during ME2
They grilled you on Mars
They won't lower the gun if you become too suspicious of you

[Steelcan]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I like the OP's idea. None of this meek pandering to the "hero's" will. You're in charge, but you're just a person. Others have opinions of their own; they aren't there just to validate your ego. If you murder Falere, I want to see Liara get pissed off. If you exterminate the Quarians, I want Garrus to knock your ass out in the shuttle bay. If you kill Mordin and Wrex AND the VS, your squad should be deeply disturbed by it. Break up relationships. Lock out others. Drive people off the ship, even if it's just one person. There should be tangible repercussions for your actions.

. Careful.  "Choices mattering" is fightin words 'round here

I was going to add something about class interrupts, but given present company, that might qualify as flame bait. 

. Lets bring up Mary Sues!

[ConanTheLeader]

Skullheart wrote...

Characters that don't hero worship Shepard:

- Wrex.
- Miranda.
- Jack.
- Javik.

You need to prove yourself to be competent before they start seeing you as someone worthy.

I'll add James to that because he always felt a bit rebellious, near the start of ME3 there are various conversation choices where you can correct him and say things like "I'm the commander here" or something to that effect.

[Steelcan]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
I do not play sociopathic a-holes

-introduces Morrigan's face to an armor piercing N7 crusader's slug"

Could've fooled me.

. Being a sociopath to a sociopath obviously makes you a hero