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#76
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IanPolaris wrote...


No, just no.  Normandy is FULLY Visible.  Reapers have no trouble detecting and chasing (and killing) the Normandy during the space exploration scenes in ME3.  Not only that, but the Mark 1 eyeball can easily see Normandy and it sits there FOR MINUTES while Harby kindly lets the Normandy do a pickup.

No.  That is just terrible writing right there.

-Polaris

Edit PS:  Even if Harby didn't see normally (and I see no reason why he couldn't....he clearly does elsewhere...his minions clearly do, and we know there are a few (Marauder Shields and the Three Huskeleers) nearby and Harby is in communication with his minions.


Even if and it is a comical the reaper IFF was having this miracolous effect, why did Joker make Shep carry on with the death run rather than drop him/her off by the beam. In reality they wanted to fill one plothole(why the squad would ever be on the Normandy when they are with you and there is a huge ground battle going on) with another equally bad one involving the Normandy making a pit stop in the middle of the beam run.

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Hexley UK wrote...

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You hear Harbinger shooting in the background. He's more focused on stopping people from reaching the beam.


I have a bigger problem with the fact that it's the Normandy that comes out of nowhere to do an extraction, rather than some random shuttle.


And so he completely ignores Shepard his worst and most threatening enemy and someone whom he has a personal vendetta against who is running directly at the beam and does not even make sure he is dead.....yea real focus.


Yes, because the Catalyst has ordered him to stop people from reaching the beam and activsting the crucible which is far more important than a personal vendetta. 

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Hexley UK wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

You hear Harbinger shooting in the background. He's more focused on stopping people from reaching the beam.


I have a bigger problem with the fact that it's the Normandy that comes out of nowhere to do an extraction, rather than some random shuttle.


And so he completely ignores Shepard his worst and most threatening enemy and someone whom he has a personal vendetta against who is running directly at the beam and does not even make sure he is dead.....yea real focus.


Yes because he can so tell which ant is Shepard.

/sarcasm.

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Hexley UK wrote...

The endings are still garbage (EC or otherwise).

I'm not so much mad at the endings anymore, more angry at Bioware for how they handled it then and continue to handle it now.

The Citadel DLC proves they know what alot of the fans wanted, why didn't we get it in the first place?

Why all the lies and exaggerations about ME3 even after the game had gone gold and they knew what was in it?

Why ignore most of the feedback for the EC?

Why still no Tali face reveal in either the EC or the Citadel DLC?

Why the ridicule and marginalisation of their biggest fans?

Why the laughable insistance that it was a minority that hated the ending?

And so on....


If you havnt already, You should see what EA has been cookin up with Maxis over Simcity. Its the same ride....

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Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

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Mumba1511 wrote...

EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?


Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.

-Polaris


Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment. 


Reapers have eyes dude, a stealth bomber might be invisible to Radar and Infra-red but you can still see it.


Where are the eyes? 

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When you meet Harby in ME2 (Arrival) or even Sovereign, you clearly do see that they have eyes or at least things that seem to function as eyes.

-Polaris

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Oh look eyes.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 14 mars 2013 - 08:37 .


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MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


Where are the eyes? 


There you go

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Those are lights. 

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Eterna5 wrote...


Synthesis works by releasing a large wave of energy containing Reaper Nanites that attach to every organics DNA, thus altering it, in Synthetics the Nanites effectively reprogram them to have full understanding of organics.

Control is akin to uploading a new program on a computer while Destroy is more like grabbing a hammer and smashing said computer to bits. They have different effects. Also the Catalyst has no control over the Geth or other Synthetics, why wluld the new one? 

. Where do the nanites come from?  Why do they target all organics?  Even plants.  Did the nanites spontaneously come about? 

Those work for Destroy and Control though :P

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

You hear Harbinger shooting in the background. He's more focused on stopping people from reaching the beam.


I have a bigger problem with the fact that it's the Normandy that comes out of nowhere to do an extraction, rather than some random shuttle.


And so he completely ignores Shepard his worst and most threatening enemy and someone whom he has a personal vendetta against who is running directly at the beam and does not even make sure he is dead.....yea real focus.


Yes because he can so tell which ant is Shepard.

/sarcasm.


Harby knows perfectly well that Shepard and Normandy go together like Peanut Butter and Jelly, and the Normandy is sitting right in front of him in clear range for minutes.

Hmmm.......

-Polaris

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Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


Where are the eyes? 


There you go

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Those are lights. 


No they are not

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This one has three eyes!

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More reaper eyes

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Modifié par MrGMM88, 14 mars 2013 - 08:37 .


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Mumba1511 wrote...

EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?

No you're not.  Wanna start a club or something?  Changing that insulting "Congrats!  Shepard is now a legend!  Don't forget to buy DLC....and here you are back on the bridge as if nothing happened!" message was good, but otherwise the EC was worse for me.  If you're gonna blow up the relays, blow up the relays.  At least then there would be potential for interesting rebuilding and exploration to do in "4".  And that evac scene is nearly as cringeworthy as the talk with StarJar.

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NeonFlux117 wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

no to everything. Endings are still the worst piece of narrative to ever intrude itself into a science fiction genre.



Top 5 for sure. 


that's seems extreme... Top 20  maybe and the thing Csey and Mac casual laugh and change the subject when brought up at conventions.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Those are lights. 


How do you know they are only lights?

-Polaris

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IanPolaris wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

You hear Harbinger shooting in the background. He's more focused on stopping people from reaching the beam.


I have a bigger problem with the fact that it's the Normandy that comes out of nowhere to do an extraction, rather than some random shuttle.


And so he completely ignores Shepard his worst and most threatening enemy and someone whom he has a personal vendetta against who is running directly at the beam and does not even make sure he is dead.....yea real focus.


Yes because he can so tell which ant is Shepard.

/sarcasm.


Harby knows perfectly well that Shepard and Normandy go together like Peanut Butter and Jelly, and the Normandy is sitting right in front of him in clear range for minutes.

Hmmm.......

-Polaris


Forgive me if I think that argument is ridiculously circumstantial.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 14 mars 2013 - 08:38 .


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why is this thread reapers

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Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

You hear Harbinger shooting in the background. He's more focused on stopping people from reaching the beam.


I have a bigger problem with the fact that it's the Normandy that comes out of nowhere to do an extraction, rather than some random shuttle.


And so he completely ignores Shepard his worst and most threatening enemy and someone whom he has a personal vendetta against who is running directly at the beam and does not even make sure he is dead.....yea real focus.


Yes, because the Catalyst has ordered him to stop people from reaching the beam and activsting the crucible which is far more important than a personal vendetta. 


So he ignores the person closest to the beam running directly at at?

Not so good at following orders then.....

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zed888 wrote...

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EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?

No you're not.  Wanna start a club or something?  Changing that insulting "Congrats!  Shepard is now a legend!  Don't forget to buy DLC....and here you are back on the bridge as if nothing happened!" message was good, but otherwise the EC was worse for me.  If you're gonna blow up the relays, blow up the relays.  At least then there would be potential for interesting rebuilding and exploration to do in "4".  And that evac scene is nearly as cringeworthy as the talk with StarJar.


Nothing is as bad as starjar the plot device.

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MrGMM88 wrote...

More reaper eyes

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You know with the way the tubes are structured... and the Red spot... it kinda looks like a....Image IPBImage IPB

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Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


Where are the eyes? 


There you go

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Those are lights. 


So you're an expert on reaper anatomy?

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No... because the endings are still inherently terrible. It's gone from a turd to a turd with a couple sprinkles on it, but the fact still remains....

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Eterna5 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?


Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.

-Polaris


Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment. 


Wouldnt this mean that they cant chase you on galaxy map?  I mean the Normandy cargo bay was open and guys shooting at the platform so its not like they wernt not seen or something right?

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ruggly wrote...

This one has three eyes!

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that's only the core of a reaper, as the cores are made to resemble the parent species.  the reaper will still look like a cuttlefish on the outside.

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IanPolaris wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?


Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.

-Polaris


Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment. 


No, just no.  Normandy is FULLY Visible.  Reapers have no trouble detecting and chasing (and killing) the Normandy during the space exploration scenes in ME3.  Not only that, but the Mark 1 eyeball can easily see Normandy and it sits there FOR MINUTES while Harby kindly lets the Normandy do a pickup.

No.  That is just terrible writing right there.

-Polaris

Edit PS:  Even if Harby didn't see normally (and I see no reason why he couldn't....he clearly does elsewhere...his minions clearly do, and we know there are a few (Marauder Shields and the Three Huskeleers) nearby and Harby is in communication with his minions.


Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?

The IFF provides a costume, scanning gives away the fact that the Normandy is not a Reaper because the scan pulse it emits is distinctly not Reaper. If the Nomrandy wasn't wearing a costume it couldn't enter any Reaper Controlled System because the Reapers have surrounded every planet and infested every system. Without someway of being hidden the Normandy would easilly be destroyed. 

 I don't know why you're so opposed to this, EDi clearly states that the Nomrandy is disguised as a Reaper in game, it is cannon.