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#101
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None of you know for sure if Reapers have eyes.

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Eterna5 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

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EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?


Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.

-Polaris


Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment. 


No, just no.  Normandy is FULLY Visible.  Reapers have no trouble detecting and chasing (and killing) the Normandy during the space exploration scenes in ME3.  Not only that, but the Mark 1 eyeball can easily see Normandy and it sits there FOR MINUTES while Harby kindly lets the Normandy do a pickup.

No.  That is just terrible writing right there.

-Polaris

Edit PS:  Even if Harby didn't see normally (and I see no reason why he couldn't....he clearly does elsewhere...his minions clearly do, and we know there are a few (Marauder Shields and the Three Huskeleers) nearby and Harby is in communication with his minions.


Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?

The IFF provides a costume, scanning gives away the fact that the Normandy is not a Reaper because the scan pulse it emits is distinctly not Reaper. If the Nomrandy wasn't wearing a costume it couldn't enter any Reaper Controlled System because the Reapers have surrounded every planet and infested every system. Without someway of being hidden the Normandy would easilly be destroyed. 

 I don't know why you're so opposed to this, EDi clearly states that the Nomrandy is disguised as a Reaper in game, it is cannon. 


Yes because when you are designing a super race of AI Cyborg monsters what you leave out is the ability to see....LOL.

I don't see giant dumbo ears on those things....they must be deaf to....not sure why we were so worried to be honest...ATTACK OF THE GIANT ROBOT HELEN KELLERS!!

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#103
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MegaSovereign wrote...

None of you know for sure if Reapers have eyes.

THEY HAVE SPECIAL EYES

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This one has three eyes!

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that's only the core of a reaper, as the cores are made to resemble the parent species.  the reaper will still look like a cuttlefish on the outside.


Doesnt' change the fact that they still have eyes somewhere...anyways, I was just joking.

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It's still my least favourite game out of the series. I feel that with more time, BioWare could have made a masterpiece. The ending wasn't the only thing I found wrong with the game. I could write a list, but I've done that on these forums several times already.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?


Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Ownedbacon wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?


Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.

-Polaris


Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment. 

Except when you're in the galaxy map and alert them. They enter the system and hunt you down. Why wouldn't the disguise still work? They could scan and find only Reapers, what would make them pursue you if they didn't have any other ways to recognize the Normandy as an enemy?


 The IFF is a costume, when the Nomrandy emits a pulse it is pretty much screaming "I am not a Reaper!".  That is why they only chase you after scanning for a bit. 

How can they pinpoint which vessel emitted the pulse if they aren't in the system? From what you're saying they only scan, and the Reaper IFF fools those scans. So unknowing of which vessel emitted those scan pulses how could they pinpoint exactly since other Reaper ships arrived in that system as well? The Normandy could have very well been just another Reaper ship on patrol after those pulses emitted.

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Hexley UK wrote...

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Oh look eyes.


I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do. 

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Reapers don't use eyes....They use Google Maps.

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Ownedbacon wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Ownedbacon wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?


Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.

-Polaris


Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment. 

Except when you're in the galaxy map and alert them. They enter the system and hunt you down. Why wouldn't the disguise still work? They could scan and find only Reapers, what would make them pursue you if they didn't have any other ways to recognize the Normandy as an enemy?


 The IFF is a costume, when the Nomrandy emits a pulse it is pretty much screaming "I am not a Reaper!".  That is why they only chase you after scanning for a bit. 

How can they pinpoint which vessel emitted the pulse if they aren't in the system? From what you're saying they only scan, and the Reaper IFF fools those scans. So unknowing of which vessel emitted those scan pulses how could they pinpoint exactly since other Reaper ships arrived in that system as well? The Normandy could have very well been just another Reaper ship on patrol after those pulses emitted.


Emitting scans pinpoints the exact location of the vessel that emmited it. 

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Reapers don't use eyes....They use Google Maps.


Wish they'd use Apple maps, they'd never find us then.

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Oh look eyes.


I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do. 


Probably more like cameras than organic eyes like the Terminator.....seriously you think they would design Reapers without the ability to see? Just laughable.

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#113
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Leviathans didn't design the Reapers.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Leviathans didn't design the Reapers.


Whatever I don't have any of the ME3 DLC including Leviathan....my point stands.

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MrGMM88 wrote...

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Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?


Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.


Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas? 

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After the Citadel DLC which I do before the Cerberus Base, Im not doing the ending ever ever ever ever ever again. Its way too depressing.

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Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?


Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.


Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas? 


Just rediculous, cameras can see.

Stick cameras on a robot with AI....bobs your uncle seeing robot.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

None of you know for sure if Reapers have eyes.

If they couldn't actually SEE, they'd have a harder time exterminating species. Think about it. If they saw through scanners alone, then a previous civilization would have found that weakness and exploited it. It's not that hard to do, given the jamming equipment militaries have today.

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Hexley UK wrote...

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Oh look eyes.


I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do. 


Probably more like cameras than organic eyes like the Terminator.....seriously you think they would design Reapers without the ability to see? Just laughable.


They can see by emitting scans, think sonar similar to what a bat has. With the Reaper IFF the Normandy appears as a reaper in those scans, which is why Harbinger lets it be. 

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No. The ending's still a turd. Polishing it and explaining why it stinks doesn't make it stink any less.

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Apocaleepse360 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

None of you know for sure if Reapers have eyes.

If they couldn't actually SEE, they'd have a harder time exterminating species. Think about it. If they saw through scanners alone, then a previous civilization would have found that weakness and exploited it. It's not that hard to do, given the jamming equipment militaries have today.


They aren't blind, they just don't see like organics do. They literally can't without an organic eye. 

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Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?


Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.


Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas? 


Well for starters reapers are made out of organics so theoretically they could have all of what you mentioned. Also you are trying to hard to make a point. No one is saying that they have eyes just like us but they are probably equipped with some form sensory input device aka the synthetic version of an eye.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

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Oh look eyes.


I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do. 


Probably more like cameras than organic eyes like the Terminator.....seriously you think they would design Reapers without the ability to see? Just laughable.


They can see by emitting scans, think sonar similar to what a bat has. With the Reaper IFF the Normandy appears as a reaper in those scans, which is why Harbinger lets it be. 


So you honestly believe that Reapers would be designed both blind and deaf (I see no ears)?

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Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?


Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.


Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas? 


Just rediculous, cameras can see.

Stick cameras on a robot with AI....bobs your uncle seeing robot.

The "flashlight" on Geth platforms is an optical vision system so yeah synthetics can have "eyes", just not fleshy eyes.

Harbinger too...

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Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?


Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.


Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas? 


Just rediculous, cameras can see.

Stick cameras on a robot with AI....bobs your uncle seeing robot.


Yes, those lights are clearly cameras.