For those who were mad at ME3 Ending
#101
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:40
#102
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:41
Eterna5 wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
Mumba1511 wrote...
EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?
Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.
-Polaris
Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment.
No, just no. Normandy is FULLY Visible. Reapers have no trouble detecting and chasing (and killing) the Normandy during the space exploration scenes in ME3. Not only that, but the Mark 1 eyeball can easily see Normandy and it sits there FOR MINUTES while Harby kindly lets the Normandy do a pickup.
No. That is just terrible writing right there.
-Polaris
Edit PS: Even if Harby didn't see normally (and I see no reason why he couldn't....he clearly does elsewhere...his minions clearly do, and we know there are a few (Marauder Shields and the Three Huskeleers) nearby and Harby is in communication with his minions.
Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?
The IFF provides a costume, scanning gives away the fact that the Normandy is not a Reaper because the scan pulse it emits is distinctly not Reaper. If the Nomrandy wasn't wearing a costume it couldn't enter any Reaper Controlled System because the Reapers have surrounded every planet and infested every system. Without someway of being hidden the Normandy would easilly be destroyed.
I don't know why you're so opposed to this, EDi clearly states that the Nomrandy is disguised as a Reaper in game, it is cannon.
Yes because when you are designing a super race of AI Cyborg monsters what you leave out is the ability to see....LOL.
I don't see giant dumbo ears on those things....they must be deaf to....not sure why we were so worried to be honest...ATTACK OF THE GIANT ROBOT HELEN KELLERS!!
Modifié par Hexley UK, 14 mars 2013 - 08:44 .
#103
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:41
THEY HAVE SPECIAL EYESMegaSovereign wrote...
None of you know for sure if Reapers have eyes.
#104
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:42
Reap_ii wrote...
ruggly wrote...
This one has three eyes!
that's only the core of a reaper, as the cores are made to resemble the parent species. the reaper will still look like a cuttlefish on the outside.
Doesnt' change the fact that they still have eyes somewhere...anyways, I was just joking.
#105
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:43
Modifié par Apocaleepse360, 14 mars 2013 - 08:45 .
#106
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:43
Eterna5 wrote...
Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?
Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.
#107
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:43
How can they pinpoint which vessel emitted the pulse if they aren't in the system? From what you're saying they only scan, and the Reaper IFF fools those scans. So unknowing of which vessel emitted those scan pulses how could they pinpoint exactly since other Reaper ships arrived in that system as well? The Normandy could have very well been just another Reaper ship on patrol after those pulses emitted.Eterna5 wrote...
Ownedbacon wrote...
Except when you're in the galaxy map and alert them. They enter the system and hunt you down. Why wouldn't the disguise still work? They could scan and find only Reapers, what would make them pursue you if they didn't have any other ways to recognize the Normandy as an enemy?Eterna5 wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
Mumba1511 wrote...
EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?
Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.
-Polaris
Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment.
The IFF is a costume, when the Nomrandy emits a pulse it is pretty much screaming "I am not a Reaper!". That is why they only chase you after scanning for a bit.
#108
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:43
Hexley UK wrote...
Oh look eyes.
I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do.
#109
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:44
#110
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:45
Ownedbacon wrote...
How can they pinpoint which vessel emitted the pulse if they aren't in the system? From what you're saying they only scan, and the Reaper IFF fools those scans. So unknowing of which vessel emitted those scan pulses how could they pinpoint exactly since other Reaper ships arrived in that system as well? The Normandy could have very well been just another Reaper ship on patrol after those pulses emitted.Eterna5 wrote...
Ownedbacon wrote...
Except when you're in the galaxy map and alert them. They enter the system and hunt you down. Why wouldn't the disguise still work? They could scan and find only Reapers, what would make them pursue you if they didn't have any other ways to recognize the Normandy as an enemy?Eterna5 wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
Mumba1511 wrote...
EC made the endings worse for me. Am I the only one who feels that way?
Well having the Normandy get out of a space fire-fight, land in full view of Harbinger and not get shot at once while picking up your injured squad is pretty much head-desk EPIC FAIL imo.
-Polaris
Reaper IFF. At multiple points in the game EDI mentions that the Normandy is effectively disguised as a Reaper on scanners. Also, Nowhere does it even say Reapers have eyes, they most likely see through scanning their environment.
The IFF is a costume, when the Nomrandy emits a pulse it is pretty much screaming "I am not a Reaper!". That is why they only chase you after scanning for a bit.
Emitting scans pinpoints the exact location of the vessel that emmited it.
#111
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:46
MegaSovereign wrote...
Reapers don't use eyes....They use Google Maps.
Wish they'd use Apple maps, they'd never find us then.
#112
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:47
Eterna5 wrote...
Hexley UK wrote...
Oh look eyes.
I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do.
Probably more like cameras than organic eyes like the Terminator.....seriously you think they would design Reapers without the ability to see? Just laughable.
Modifié par Hexley UK, 14 mars 2013 - 08:50 .
#113
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:48
#114
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:50
MegaSovereign wrote...
Leviathans didn't design the Reapers.
Whatever I don't have any of the ME3 DLC including Leviathan....my point stands.
#115
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:50
MrGMM88 wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?
Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.
Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas?
#116
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:50
#117
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:51
Eterna5 wrote...
MrGMM88 wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?
Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.
Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas?
Just rediculous, cameras can see.
Stick cameras on a robot with AI....bobs your uncle seeing robot.
Modifié par Hexley UK, 14 mars 2013 - 08:51 .
#118
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:51
If they couldn't actually SEE, they'd have a harder time exterminating species. Think about it. If they saw through scanners alone, then a previous civilization would have found that weakness and exploited it. It's not that hard to do, given the jamming equipment militaries have today.MegaSovereign wrote...
None of you know for sure if Reapers have eyes.
#119
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:53
Hexley UK wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Hexley UK wrote...
Oh look eyes.
I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do.
Probably more like cameras than organic eyes like the Terminator.....seriously you think they would design Reapers without the ability to see? Just laughable.
They can see by emitting scans, think sonar similar to what a bat has. With the Reaper IFF the Normandy appears as a reaper in those scans, which is why Harbinger lets it be.
#120
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:53
#121
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:53
Apocaleepse360 wrote...
If they couldn't actually SEE, they'd have a harder time exterminating species. Think about it. If they saw through scanners alone, then a previous civilization would have found that weakness and exploited it. It's not that hard to do, given the jamming equipment militaries have today.MegaSovereign wrote...
None of you know for sure if Reapers have eyes.
They aren't blind, they just don't see like organics do. They literally can't without an organic eye.
Modifié par Eterna5, 14 mars 2013 - 08:54 .
#122
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:54
Eterna5 wrote...
MrGMM88 wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?
Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.
Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas?
Well for starters reapers are made out of organics so theoretically they could have all of what you mentioned. Also you are trying to hard to make a point. No one is saying that they have eyes just like us but they are probably equipped with some form sensory input device aka the synthetic version of an eye.
#123
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:54
Eterna5 wrote...
Hexley UK wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Hexley UK wrote...
Oh look eyes.
I believe that is a Lazer with two lights on the side. Even if they have eyes nowhere is it stated they see as organics do. I mean, how could they? They don't have anything that organic eyes do.
Probably more like cameras than organic eyes like the Terminator.....seriously you think they would design Reapers without the ability to see? Just laughable.
They can see by emitting scans, think sonar similar to what a bat has. With the Reaper IFF the Normandy appears as a reaper in those scans, which is why Harbinger lets it be.
So you honestly believe that Reapers would be designed both blind and deaf (I see no ears)?
#124
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:54
The "flashlight" on Geth platforms is an optical vision system so yeah synthetics can have "eyes", just not fleshy eyes.Hexley UK wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
MrGMM88 wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?
Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.
Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas?
Just rediculous, cameras can see.
Stick cameras on a robot with AI....bobs your uncle seeing robot.
Harbinger too...
#125
Posté 14 mars 2013 - 08:55
Hexley UK wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
MrGMM88 wrote...
Eterna5 wrote...
Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?
Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.
Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas?
Just rediculous, cameras can see.
Stick cameras on a robot with AI....bobs your uncle seeing robot.
Yes, those lights are clearly cameras.





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