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[chmarr]

so many plot holes
so many flaws
so many things did not make any sense

before the ending everything was good abet massive plotholes.

a lot of players still cant stand the ending and given that ea tracks peoples course they know that everyone stops before priority earth as it blows goats.

[Apocaleepse360]

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

What do you mean easily exploited? In order for the Nomrandy to pull it off it needed t have an advanced piece of Reaper tech pulled from a Dead Reaper and then modified by an advanced Ships AI. 

In a nutshell they are faking the IFF signal. Sounds like a easy way to win the war. Just replicate the IFF like cerberus did and mount in on the ships. Then attack. The reapers wont know whats going on

Hell, with how unadvanced some of these people are claiming the Reapers to be, our ships could also keep apologizing to the Reapers, saying it was "friendly fire", and would probably get away with it.

Modifié par Apocaleepse360, 14 mars 2013 - 09:14 .

[im commander shep]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

im commander shep wrote...
If the IFF is so amazing that the Normandy can fly right in front of the lead reaper on earth ground zero and no reaper not have see it? WHY THE HELL NOT DROP EVERYONE ON THE BEAM FROM THE NORMANDY AND FORGET ALL OF PRIORITY EARTH.

Because Marauder Shields would see through the Normandy's disguise. 

He doesn't have eyes only lights. Duh

[Hexley UK]

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

What do you mean easily exploited? In order for the Nomrandy to pull it off it needed t have an advanced piece of Reaper tech pulled from a Dead Reaper and then modified by an advanced Ships AI. 

In a nutshell they are faking the IFF signal. Sounds like a easy way to win the war. Just replicate the IFF like cerberus did and mount in on the ships. Then attack. The reapers wont know whats going on

Conventional victory 4tw!

If only we had known that the giant super advanced super intelligent space robots were designed blind and deaf.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 14 mars 2013 - 09:15 .

[Ownedbacon]

Eterna5 wrote...

Ownedbacon wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?

Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.

Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas? 

Just rediculous, cameras can see.

Stick cameras on a robot with AI....bobs your uncle seeing robot.

Yes, those lights are clearly cameras. 

You realise that right now we can get robots to visually recognise people and objects through the use of AI and cameras right?

But giant super AI robot monsters in the future don't have every sort of analysis possible (RADAR, LADAR, SONAR, Infra-Red, Optical, Low-light ect....ect. many of which US drones actually use right now) they just only ever use to complete exclusivity Reaper "Bat sonar".

If you believe that then I honestly don't know what to say to you.

Implying that Reapers have the same simplistic scans we have now.

lol

They should be better and not so easily exploited at close range.

What do you mean easily exploited? In order for the Nomrandy to pull it off it needed t have an advanced piece of Reaper tech pulled from a Dead Reaper and then modified by an advanced Ships AI. 

They are hovering right there unloading troops and not assisting Harbinger. If I was a Reaper I would find that to be suspicious. Why even go through the trouble of landing with a shuttle if the Normandy is invisible to Reapers on account of the IFF. The beam run wouldn't have had happened they could have easily landed. Wouldn't the Reapers also be alarmed by the fact that a "fellow Reaper" had been shooting them in space just before? That would be just as alarming as emitting a scan.

[Eterna]

Hexley UK wrote...

And yet they can't pick out Normandy when it's right in front of them....so not so advanced then huh?

It is very advanced, you needed their own technology to fool them. 

And they have lights but not the ability to see huh?

If they look like eyes, they must be eyes right? I bet you think these are eyes too then: 

And they can't tell Shepard out from any other human huh?

I never said or even implied that.

Honestly m8 you'd headcanon your way into believing anything...even something patently ludicrous.

And you'd ignore in game facts to believe they ****ed up on this scene when they did in fact establish ingame why Harbinger may not be albe to see them. 

[Burnham1]

Original Ending was horrible.

Extended Cut changed nothing. It only added more horrible.

Don't buy DLC for games that ruin franchises due to horrible endings. So can't give an opinion on Citadel DLC. It is probably fun just like the other 99% of the game, but the ending makes the rest of the story pointless because nothing you do actually matters in the end.

[deatharmonic]

Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Prove to me that Reapers have eyes, they have lights that mimic eyes, but prove to me they see as organics do?

Cant be disproven just like you cant prove it.

Actually I can, The human eye has a Cornea, Iris, Retina, and a eye lens. All of these are essential for sight. Reapers being Synthetic constructs don't have these. How could they possibly see like us? Are you going to argue that Reapers have an occipital lobe, and retinas? 

That's not what he means, you can't disprove reapers cannot observe their surroundings in a way which produces visual data, similar to what the eye produces. like a video recorder being able to capture and display its surroundings. They don't neccessarily need to have the same faculties the eyes have.

[Hexley UK]

Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

And yet they can't pick out Normandy when it's right in front of them....so not so advanced then huh?

It is very advanced, you needed their own technology to fool them. 

And they have lights but not the ability to see huh?

If they look like eyes, they must be eyes right? I bet you think these are eyes too then: 

And they can't tell Shepard out from any other human huh?

I never said or even implied that.

Honestly m8 you'd headcanon your way into believing anything...even something patently ludicrous.

And you'd ignore in game facts to believe they ****ed up on this scene when they did in fact establish ingame why Harbinger may not be albe to see them. 

You missed the point, Why would you need lights if you can't see? You know lights are used to make it easier to see right?

And you called them lights not me.

You're just being rediculous, honestly just beyond laughable and illogical that you think this way.

I'm done talking to you it's frankly not worth the effort.

[Ownedbacon]

Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

And yet they can't pick out Normandy when it's right in front of them....so not so advanced then huh?

It is very advanced, you needed their own technology to fool them. 

And they have lights but not the ability to see huh?

If they look like eyes, they must be eyes right? I bet you think these are eyes too then: 

<snip>

And they can't tell Shepard out from any other human huh?

I never said or even implied that.

Honestly m8 you'd headcanon your way into believing anything...even something patently ludicrous.

And you'd ignore in game facts to believe they ****ed up on this scene when they did in fact establish ingame why Harbinger may not be albe to see them. 

How about the fact that if the Normandy is so invisible to Reapers how come they don't just land at the beam? In fact that is what Joker ended up doing anyways. How come Harbinger isn't alarmed at the organics coming off of supposed Reaper? Why isn't Harbinger alarmed or other Reapers that the Normandy had been attacking other Reaper vessels in space? Both of these would be as alarming as emitting a non-reaper scan.

[Eterna]

Hexley UK wrote...


You missed the point, Why would you need lights if you can't see? You know lights are used to make it easier to see right?

And you called them lights not me.

You're just being rediculous, honestly just beyond laughable and illogical that you think this way.

Psychological warfare, I already answered this.

I'm done talking to you it's frankly not worth the effort.

Glad to know you that you know when you're wrong. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 14 mars 2013 - 09:28 .

[Apocaleepse360]

im commander shep wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

im commander shep wrote...
If the IFF is so amazing that the Normandy can fly right in front of the lead reaper on earth ground zero and no reaper not have see it? WHY THE HELL NOT DROP EVERYONE ON THE BEAM FROM THE NORMANDY AND FORGET ALL OF PRIORITY EARTH.

Because Marauder Shields would see through the Normandy's disguise. 

He doesn't have eyes only lights. Duh

Oh yeah, I forgot the Reapers took away the ability to see on every husk they make. Despite them being their standard ground troops and all.

How silly of me. 

[Riot86]

Hexley UK wrote...

*snip*

You missed the point, Why would you need lights if you can't see? You know lights are used to make it easier to see right?

And you called them lights not me.

You're just being rediculous, honestly just beyond laughable and illogical that you think this way.

I'm done talking to you it's frankly not worth the effort.

That's what he does in all threads I've seen him so far...

He states something without anything solid in the lore to back it up (e.g.: "Nanites" -  Where do they come from? Who build them?), then another user gives good arguments that disprove his statement and then he just goes on and says something that makes even less sense as it most of the time contradicts his previous statement (e.g.: "the lights")...and when someone calls him out on that, he makes up even more BS - the sad part is I actually think he really believes the things he says <_<

Modifié par Riot86, 14 mars 2013 - 09:30 .

[Hexley UK]

Eterna5 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...


You missed the point, Why would you need lights if you can't see? You know lights are used to make it easier to see right?

And you called them lights not me.

You're just being rediculous, honestly just beyond laughable and illogical that you think this way.

Psychological warfare, I already answered this.

I'm done talking to you it's frankly not worth the effort.

Glad to know you that you know when you're wrong. 

[Eterna]

Riot86 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

*snip*

You missed the point, Why would you need lights if you can't see? You know lights are used to make it easier to see right?

And you called them lights not me.

You're just being rediculous, honestly just beyond laughable and illogical that you think this way.

I'm done talking to you it's frankly not worth the effort.

That's what he does in all threads I've seen him so far...

He
states something without anything solid in the lore to back it up (e.g.: "Nanites" -  Where do they come from? Who build them?), then
another user gives good arguments that disprove his statement and then
he just goes on and says something that makes even less sense as it most of the time contradicts his previous statement...and when someone calls him out on that, he makes up even more BS - the sad
part is I actually think he really believes the things he says [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

Or maybe I enjoy riling people up. You make it so easy. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 14 mars 2013 - 09:32 .

[MrGMM88]

Eterna5 wrote...


Psychological warfare, I already answered this.

So in your mind its more likely that the "light/eyes" were installed to frigthen people instead of being additional sensory input devices?

What?

[Eterna]

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


Psychological warfare, I already answered this.

So in your mind its more likely that the "light/eyes" were installed to frigthen people instead of being additional sensory input devices?

Yup. 

[MrGMM88]

Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


Psychological warfare, I already answered this.

So in your mind its more likely that the "light/eyes" were installed to frigthen people instead of being additional sensory input devices?

Yup. 

Are you related to the star child?

[Ownedbacon]

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


Psychological warfare, I already answered this.

So in your mind its more likely that the "light/eyes" were installed to frigthen people instead of being additional sensory input devices?

What?

The Geth "flashlight heads" are only there to frighten people as well. /sarcasm

Modifié par Ownedbacon, 14 mars 2013 - 09:32 .

[Eterna]

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

MrGMM88 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...


Psychological warfare, I already answered this.

So in your mind its more likely that the "light/eyes" were installed to frigthen people instead of being additional sensory input devices?

Yup. 

Are you related to the star child?

Probably, he is a great character after all. 

[Riot86]

Eterna5 wrote...

Or maybe I enjoy riling people up. You make it so easy. 

Which doesn't make it any better...on the contrary.

[Nl55]

hell destroyer wrote...

Did you forgive the ending of Me3 with the Extended Cut or with the Citadel DLC? Do you like Me3 now? Are you still mad at it or you can enjoy it now?
Would you have liked ME3 if the base game shipped with the EC and Citadel DLC contents?

Myself, I've forgiven it with the EC.

ME3 was a perfect, i will always love this one. But "endings" not good, EC\\Citadel don't repair this at all.
Game haven't ending, just it was not complete story.

[Eterna]

Riot86 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Or maybe I enjoy riling people up. You make it so easy. 

Which doesn't make it any better...on the contrary.

c[_] <------- My care cup is empty.  

Modifié par Eterna5, 14 mars 2013 - 09:36 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

I still hate the endings, OP. The EC didn't fix the huge logical and thematic problems with it, so it didn't help. I wasn't after just a nonsensical happy ending, so the Citadel DLC didn't help.

I'm enjoying Citadel so far, without it I doubt I would've picked up ME3 again. But when I'm done with it, I won't finish this playthrough. I can't sit through that drivel again.

[darkway1]

Me...NO....I will not forgive.....to be blunt Mass3 was released unfinished and rushed.....Bioware then went on to finish MASS3 via DLC at gamers expense.