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So I still hate Ashley's makeover...


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The hilarious thing about female ME squadmates is the more they attempt to make a character "sexy", the less attractive I tend to find them.

ME3 Ashley, Miranda, Samara, EDI? Would not bang.

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Rachel73 wrote...

I thought she was much prettier in ME1. I think her wearing her hair down is what really bothers me because she's a frontline soldier at least put her hair in a ponytail. I still like Ash a lot though, I just wish they would have thought about her makeover a bit more.

I think people have a case when they say her hair looks a little overdone. It's true, she does look like she just walked out of a salon when you first meet her in ME3. I think that is a legitimate criticism because she is supposed to be a soldier and that isn't a realistic portrayal of a female soldier who is infantry.

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I don't mind the hair down, though it would have been a nicer touch if she wore it up on the battlefield I think. I'm not sure why she even has a unique uniform (in-universe reasons I mean), so yeah, I guess it's a bit strange. The thing about her outift is that it kind of mirrors Miranda's, which I don't see the point of since the two characters couldn't be more different. The only ME3 playthrough with a surviving Ashley, I haven't got past the point where she's still hospitalised, so I can't say whether or not her personality is any different from ME1, but her new suit does nothing to reflect the character as I knew her in 1, so either she's changed, which isn't cool, or her outift simply doesn't suit her, which isn't cool.

It's not bad in itself imo, just no good on Ashley.

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Yeah, it's a complete mystery what Ash and Miranda have in common - hot chick on the cover to sell the games to the target demographic (20ish heterosexual males)... it's even more of a mystery why they decided to make a rather plain character more attractive (generic female armour => catsuit)

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Well yeah, that much is obvious. I just meant that in-universe she should obviously be decked out in the same uniform every other Alliance member in the game is wearing. But yeah, of course the only real reason is 'sex appeal'.

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Regarding Ashley's new look, having her hair down is a non-issue that the BSN makes too much of a fuss over. After all, Ashley has combat armor that comes equipped with an optional helmet. People who gripe that the long hair isn't realistic or practical in a combat scenario, don't have a leg to stand on. After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions? What purpose would body armor serve if you neglect to protect one of the more vital and vulnerable parts of your body?

That being said I do think Ashley's default catsuit uniform is a little odd, if only because you see no other Alliance character wearing it in the series. Why is Ashley wearing a uniform that appears unique to herself? Her default uniform probably should have been Alliance utilities, like Traynor.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

The hilarious thing about female ME squadmates is the more they attempt to make a character "sexy", the less attractive I tend to find them.

ME3 Ashley, Miranda, Samara, EDI? Would not bang.


+1

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After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions?

Yes, but helmets and sensible armour were removed after ME1 (triggering a wave of threads complaining about it - google has 91000 results for "me2 squadmate helmet" on BSN alone) - do you really want me to paste a couple hundred pages worth of discussion to that effect?

Ash wearing a unique uniform is at least consistent - she's Shepard's rank now and officers of his rank apparently get distinctive red stripe armour (I.e. onyx armour appear generic grey on squadmates but grey with red stripes on Shepard) to identify officers.

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In the FUTURE, female soldiers make breasts implants to hide ammunition inside.

In the FUTURE, female soldiers let their head down because their hair has aim sight.

In the FUTURE, female soldiers put on skirts so their male opponents will not be distracted by their asses, 'cause that wouldn't be a fare fight.

In the FUTURE, Alchohol makes a soldier during a mission's senses more focused while fighting an army of gigantic robots.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Regarding Ashley's new look, having her hair down is a non-issue that the BSN makes too much of a fuss over. After all, Ashley has combat armor that comes equipped with an optional helmet. People who gripe that the long hair isn't realistic or practical in a combat scenario, don't have a leg to stand on. After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions? What purpose would body armor serve if you neglect to protect one of the more vital and vulnerable parts of your body?


Unless that hair has it's own HUD, it's still impractical to wear in combat.  Helmet or no.

Fortunately, there is a PC mod to give Ash back her bun either in combat or all the time.  It is awesome.

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iakus wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Regarding Ashley's new look, having her hair down is a non-issue that the BSN makes too much of a fuss over. After all, Ashley has combat armor that comes equipped with an optional helmet. People who gripe that the long hair isn't realistic or practical in a combat scenario, don't have a leg to stand on. After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions? What purpose would body armor serve if you neglect to protect one of the more vital and vulnerable parts of your body?


Unless that hair has it's own HUD, it's still impractical to wear in combat.  Helmet or no.

Fortunately, there is a PC mod to give Ash back her bun either in combat or all the time.  It is awesome.

Men having full beards & goatee's is also impracticial by military standards, so I don't see what's stopping Ash from letting her hair down.

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Should every screwmember just be dressed in generic indistinguishable heavy armor because that's the most 'practical' thing to do?

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David7204 wrote...

Should every screwmember just be dressed in generic indistinguishable heavy armor because that's the most 'practical' thing to do?


Are you talking about during missions or in general?

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On missions, I suppose. But remember that's where the bulk of the dialogue and whatnot happens.

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David7204 wrote...

On missions, I suppose. But remember that's where the bulk of the dialogue and whatnot happens.


Well on missions Ashley is suppose to wear heavy armor, that's what she prefers

But in ME3 she only has one set of armor compared to the other heavy armor users in the squad, the other Alt Appearances feels out of place

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Obvakhi wrote...

iakus wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Regarding Ashley's new look, having her hair down is a non-issue that the BSN makes too much of a fuss over. After all, Ashley has combat armor that comes equipped with an optional helmet. People who gripe that the long hair isn't realistic or practical in a combat scenario, don't have a leg to stand on. After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions? What purpose would body armor serve if you neglect to protect one of the more vital and vulnerable parts of your body?


Unless that hair has it's own HUD, it's still impractical to wear in combat.  Helmet or no.

Fortunately, there is a PC mod to give Ash back her bun either in combat or all the time.  It is awesome.

Men having full beards & goatee's is also impracticial by military standards, so I don't see what's stopping Ash from letting her hair down.


Sorry, I have to ask. How does a little facial hair get in the way? I've heard that in the past some military leaders banned it in fear that an enemy could get a grip on it, but in a gunfight?

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David7204 wrote...

Should every screwmember just be dressed in generic indistinguishable heavy armor because that's the most 'practical' thing to do?


I saw what you did there :P

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KingZayd wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

iakus wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Regarding Ashley's new look, having her hair down is a non-issue that the BSN makes too much of a fuss over. After all, Ashley has combat armor that comes equipped with an optional helmet. People who gripe that the long hair isn't realistic or practical in a combat scenario, don't have a leg to stand on. After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions? What purpose would body armor serve if you neglect to protect one of the more vital and vulnerable parts of your body?


Unless that hair has it's own HUD, it's still impractical to wear in combat.  Helmet or no.

Fortunately, there is a PC mod to give Ash back her bun either in combat or all the time.  It is awesome.

Men having full beards & goatee's is also impracticial by military standards, so I don't see what's stopping Ash from letting her hair down.


Sorry, I have to ask. How does a little facial hair get in the way? I've heard that in the past some military leaders banned it in fear that an enemy could get a grip on it, but in a gunfight?

The U.S. military doesn't allow beards because it's hard to get a good seal on a gas mask with them. They do allow moustaches though.

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Yeah, it's a complete mystery what Ash and Miranda have in common - hot chick on the cover to sell the games to the target demographic (20ish heterosexual males)... it's even more of a mystery why they decided to make a rather plain character more attractive (generic female armour => catsuit)


They should of just kept her in her white and pink armor.

That was damn sexy.

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CDR David Shepard wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

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Yeah, it's a complete mystery what Ash and Miranda have in common - hot chick on the cover to sell the games to the target demographic (20ish heterosexual males)... it's even more of a mystery why they decided to make a rather plain character more attractive (generic female armour => catsuit)


They should of just kept her in her white and pink armor.

That was damn sexy.


And her having a pony-tail over the bun and having her hair down lol Image IPB

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Rachel73 wrote...

The U.S. military doesn't allow beards because it's hard to get a good seal on a gas mask with them. They do allow moustaches though.


It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming presentation of a serviceman. The mustache regulation is very tightly controlled. They must be trimmed, tapered, and tidy. It must not be bushy in appearance, and the ends are not to extend past the top of the upper lib.

The only mustaches I've ever seen in my 6 years are the pencil thin "Clark Gable" mustache.

Beards no longer than 1/4th of an inch are authorized to personnel with an established medical condition that is on profile, and are not to shape it into a goatee, Fu Manchu, or any other form.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 09 mai 2013 - 08:26 .


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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Rachel73 wrote...

The U.S. military doesn't allow beards because it's hard to get a good seal on a gas mask with them. They do allow moustaches though.


It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming appearance of a serviceman. The mustache regulation is very tightly controlled. They must be trimmed, tapered, and tidy. It must not be bushy in appearance, and the ends are not to extend past the top of the upper lib.

The only mustaches I've ever seen in my 6 years are the pencil thin "Clark Gable" mustache.

Beards no longer than 1/4th of an inch are authorized to personnel with an established medical condition that is on profile, and are not to shape it into a goatee, Fu Manchu, or any other form.

I didn't know all that thanks! Also thank you for your service

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming presentation of a serviceman. The mustache regulation is very tightly controlled. They must be trimmed, tapered, and tidy. It must not be bushy in appearance, and the ends are not to extend past the top of the upper lib.

The only mustaches I've ever seen in my 6 years are the pencil thin "Clark Gable" mustache.

Beards no longer than 1/4th of an inch are authorized to personnel with an established medical condition that is on profile, and are not to shape it into a goatee, Fu Manchu, or any other form.

. What kind of medical condition excuses beards?

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Steelcan wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming presentation of a serviceman. The mustache regulation is very tightly controlled. They must be trimmed, tapered, and tidy. It must not be bushy in appearance, and the ends are not to extend past the top of the upper lib.

The only mustaches I've ever seen in my 6 years are the pencil thin "Clark Gable" mustache.

Beards no longer than 1/4th of an inch are authorized to personnel with an established medical condition that is on profile, and are not to shape it into a goatee, Fu Manchu, or any other form.

. What kind of medical condition excuses beards?


Being a lumberjack.

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I read about a case where some black guy who worked as a pizza deliverer sued his employer on the grounds that their 'no beards' rule was discrimination against black people since they have curlier hair and are therefore much more prone to razor burn.

He won.

Modifié par David7204, 09 mai 2013 - 08:55 .