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[AlexMBrennan]

It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming presentation of a serviceman.

Spah is sappin' your argument.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 09 mai 2013 - 09:39 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming presentation of a serviceman.

Spah is sappin' your argument.

He's also not American, or in the United States Military.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 10 mai 2013 - 01:08 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Steelcan wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming presentation of a serviceman. The mustache regulation is very tightly controlled. They must be trimmed, tapered, and tidy. It must not be bushy in appearance, and the ends are not to extend past the top of the upper lib.

The only mustaches I've ever seen in my 6 years are the pencil thin "Clark Gable" mustache.

Beards no longer than 1/4th of an inch are authorized to personnel with an established medical condition that is on profile, and are not to shape it into a goatee, Fu Manchu, or any other form.

. What kind of medical condition excuses beards?

There are some guys that get skin diseases and odd rashes. Mostly a sanitation issue. Some guys can get some pretty screwy ****.

It's funny, see one walking around all the time, and the CSM is standing there giving the death glare that you can feel from across the globe, but he can't do anything about it since the guy's on profile. 

[themikefest]

When I was in you can have sideburns that are neatly trimmed and didn't go lower than your exterior ear opening

Modifié par themikefest, 10 mai 2013 - 01:22 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

themikefest wrote...

When I was in you can have sideburns that are neatly trimmed and didn't go lower than your exterior ear opening

Yeah, that's still the reg. I know a few guys who push it. Even in length, no flare, can't go past the bottom of the ear opening.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 10 mai 2013 - 01:27 .

[Saito404]

It's funny, because she had makeover in ME1 too.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Saito404 wrote...

It's funny, because she had makeover in ME1 too.

Nuclear explosions tend to do that to people.

[Karlone123]

I liked Ashley's previous look, it was realistic, to me she was a good representation of how females could be realistically presented in video games. She had the sex appeal on a realistic scale, considering her personality to be the same level as well. I get that Ashley's appearence might needed to be updated, I hoped for a person who looked like she took her military career seriously with a few facial flaws like instead of a flawless face (unless her face was glossed up to hide it all). So to put it short I took Ashley seriously as a character, but then came her facial update and that seriousness took a deep plumet. Considering the lack of content added to her character, she's nothing more than eye candy, which is a shame because she had potential.

Miranda Lawson flawless appearence suits her character as her being was suppose to be about being perfect in every aspect. With Ashely, her being on just being a Human being is that Humans have flaws and I would expect (hope) for that to reflect off her appearence. Man, I am a whiner.

Modifié par Karlone123, 10 mai 2013 - 05:29 .

[enayasoul]

Karlone123 wrote...

I liked Ashley's previous look, it was realistic, to me she was a good representation of how females could be realistically presented in video games. She had the sex appeal on a realistic scale, considering her personality to be the same level as well. I get that Ashley's appearence might needed to be updated, I hoped for a person who looked like she took her military career seriously with a few facial flaws like instead of a flawless face (unless her face was glossed up to hide it all). So to put it short I took Ashley seriously as a character, but then came her facial update and that seriousness took a deep plumet. Considering the lack of content added to her character, she's nothing more than eye candy, which is a shame because she had potential.

Miranda Lawson flawless appearence suits her character as her being was suppose to be about being perfect in every aspect. With Ashely, her being on just being a Human being is that Humans have flaws and I would expect (hope) for that to reflect off her appearence. Man, I am a whiner.

You have some valid points.  I too, wished Ashley's character was more developed but what's there really turned me off her character.

Miranda Lawson by far is superb!   A wonderful character.  Yvonne's did an awesome job!

[AlexMBrennan]

He's also not American, or in the United States Military.

So, you are saying that only American soldiers have a professional appearance? Did you think that through?

The point is that your ideas of what constitutes a professional appearance very much depend on culture (as demonstrated by the French Foreign Legion Sappers), and saying that every culture now and in the future(e.g. Mass Effect's Alliance Military) will have to follow the same dress code is a little bit arrogant.

[TheRealJayDee]

I have to agree with Alex here. But seriously, I think we really don't need to discuss regulations about professional appearances in the Alliance - Ashley's ME3 outfit clearly shows there are none. Or maybe there are, and it's just that nobody actually gives a damn.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

It's not arrogant at all. Most militaries have similar regulations for personal grooming and appearance. It's a standard that's been around for centuries.

And yes, I do believe that American Soldiers have a superb and professional appearance. The military is not based on culture. It's based on professionalism. The FFL is of course subject to their own regulations, but in my opinion, they do not look professional. Nor would any professional fighting force that allowed their ranks to adopt a style or wear that reflects the individuality of the single soldier. Call that arrogance, but look at the US Army's battle record. We have the right to be arrogant.

That said, no where did I say anything about the alliance military's standard. I was mentioning the US Army's regulation for facial hair, when this kid comes in acting up because I mention the regulation. He's probably some sorry kid from some European nation or whatever, upset that I'm not giving his country credence.

If that's the case, I'll be more than happy to prove the US Army's superiority in a fight. Name and place, and we'll be there.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 10 mai 2013 - 12:07 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

I have to agree with Alex here. But seriously, I think we really don't need to discuss regulations about professional appearances in the Alliance - Ashley's ME3 outfit clearly shows there are none. Or maybe there are, and it's just that nobody actually gives a damn.

And that's unprofessional and just plain insulting to even call themselves a military.

[Han Shot First]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions?

Yes, but helmets and sensible armour were removed after ME1 (triggering a wave of threads complaining about it - google has 91000 results for "me2 squadmate helmet" on BSN alone) - do you really want me to paste a couple hundred pages worth of discussion to that effect?

Ash wearing a unique uniform is at least consistent - she's Shepard's rank now and officers of his rank apparently get distinctive red stripe armour (I.e. onyx armour appear generic grey on squadmates but grey with red stripes on Shepard) to identify officers.

The red stripe actually is an indication that the Marine is an N7, rather than an officer. That is why if Kaidan wears Oynx armor in ME1 it is without the red stripe, even though he is an officer like Shepard.

While helmets were removed from some armors in ME3 the only characters who don't have any armors that come with an optional helmet are Javik, Liara, and EDI. EDI of course doesn't need one. Ashley's default catsuit doesn't have a helmet but the dark blue heavy armor she wears on Mars does.

iakus wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Regarding Ashley's new look, having her hair down is a non-issue that the BSN makes too much of a fuss over. After all, Ashley has combat armor that comes equipped with an optional helmet. People who gripe that the long hair isn't realistic or practical in a combat scenario, don't have a leg to stand on. After all, if you are so concerned with realism shouldn't Ashley be wearing her helmet during missions? What purpose would body armor serve if you neglect to protect one of the more vital and vulnerable parts of your body?

Unless that hair has it's own HUD, it's still impractical to wear in combat.  Helmet or no.

When she has the helmet on, I'm assuming her hair is pinned back to not be flopping around in front of her eyes.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 10 mai 2013 - 12:11 .

[Han Shot First]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...



And yes, I do believe that American Soldiers have a superb and professional appearance. The military is not based on culture. It's based on professionalism.

US Army Captain Tejeep Singh Rattan.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 10 mai 2013 - 12:23 .

[Zazzerka]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

If that's the case, I'll be more than happy to prove the US Army's superiority in a fight. Name and place, and we'll be there.

You are a massive tosser.

[Han Shot First]

Zazzerka wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

If that's the case, I'll be more than happy to prove the US Army's superiority in a fight. Name and place, and we'll be there.

You are a massive tosser.

[themikefest]

I would love to see 2 soldiers together. One clean shaven the other with a beard. Each wearing a gas mask. Put them in a room filled with toxic fumes. The one who is clean shaven will be in better shape since that individual has a better seal.

The regulations in the Alliance makes no sense. Their ranking structure makes no sense. And the worst one is apparently that left handed saluting is allowed. That is very disrespectful.

@MassivelyEffective0730 if you do go somewhere to prove our might call me up I'll gladly help.

[KingZayd]

Han Shot First wrote...

Zazzerka wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

If that's the case, I'll be more than happy to prove the US Army's superiority in a fight. Name and place, and we'll be there.

You are a massive tosser.

also lol at beards being "unprofessional"

[spirosz]

Why are we arguing about beards? I'm glad Ashley shaved her beard, tbh.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

If that's the case, I'll be more than happy to prove the US Army's superiority in a fight. Name and place, and we'll be there.

1812.

Washington.

[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I'll be more than happy to prove the US Army's superiority in a fight. Name and place, and we'll be there.

Vietnam.

[Ravensword]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I'll be more than happy to prove the US Army's superiority in a fight. Name and place, and we'll be there.

Vietnam.

Best soundtrack.

[Ravensword]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

It's also unprofessional in appearance, detracting from the well groomed and becoming presentation of a serviceman.

Spah is sappin' your argument.

Légion étrangère.