DeinonSlayer wrote...
]Both fleets have to repair and re-stock before they can send aid into the wider galaxy. I imagine they were making preparations to disembark before the fighting itself was over. The whole point of going to war, as established in ME2, was to have a place to shelter their civilian populace while the fleet went out to aid the wider galaxy.
Was it? I thought that was Gerrel's
excuse, not actual quarian policy. Xen wanted mastery over the geth, Rhaan kinda went where the wind blew - or seemed to - Zal'Koris wanted peaceful cooperation - the general goal of Shepard in the end, we would assume, since you have the option of pushing for that at Tali's trial. From the sounds of things, only the Heavy Fleet is the main-purpose combat arm of the quarian fleet. I could be wrong on this, however.
The thing is, the Quarians have to cannibalize much of that fleet to use as building materials for reconstruction.
I think you're forgetting that the geth regard Rannoch as a graveyard, and have preserved a great deal of the planet - including the cities. Direct quote from the wiki (if you can trust it):
"Although Rannoch is now largely uninhabited, the geth have acted as caretakers, working to repair the planet's ecology, restore ancient structures, and cultivate some farmland."Not much cannibalization needed.
They won't be going on a "crusade of revenge" even if they wanted to for the same reason they could never take a Turian colony to settle by force - they lack the numbers to do so.
Considering the pounding the turians are/would have taken, the quarians might not have to work too terribly hard - were they so inclined.
As the Peace outcome shows, they care more about survival than revenge. Historically, the Geth they were up against had the mindset of the VI, which offers the Quarians no quarter. The Quarians attacked because they thought it the only way they could survive, and if you have the VI with you, they're absolutely right.
Well, Legion says that in his experience - which is the experience of
all geth - the quarians have attacked "100% if the time". They've
never tried to negotiate. The war was never actually
necessary, if the quarians had just listened for once. The hawks had their way, the rest gotta pay.
When it's communicated to them, however, that the Geth are willing to accept a cease-fire for the first time in their entire history, they make the smart move and stand down.
Couldn't the geth letting the quarians leave Rannoch in the first place be considered a kind of ceasefire? We can assume the Morning War technically never ended. It's implied that the geth could have easily pursued them, but didn't because they didn't know what genocide would entail. It was not desire, just uncertainty. For the most part, quarian history since has been nothing
but the desire for genocide (if you consider the geth potentially people). The quarians - at least their leadership and public opinion - is not remotely guiltless. The war, AFAIK, was to the extinction of the geth, not co-habitation. Shepard, if s/he's lucky -
forces it on them but making it possible for the geth to become individually and independantly intelligent.
The only way the Quarians die is if Shepard encourages the upload and doesn't even bother to tell the Quarians about it - for all they know, another Reaper backup came on-line, in which case ceasing fire wouldn't spare them anyway.
Not telling them is a rather dickbag move, no matter how you look at it.
If one side or the other, or both, are intent on some sort of "crusade of revenge" a la Wreav (which there is little reason to suspect - see Quarian aid provided in the wake of the Vallum Blast), wouldn't it be better to preserve the fleet which would be weaker in such combat?
Well, I doubt public opinion would sway that way, but in the flush of victory, with the hawks in charge...? It's not completely impossible. Implausible, yes, but not impossible.
I think we can agree on this point. I would say the same for my distain for the Geth. I've said many times that those who choose Destroy specifically so Shepard has a shot at survival are doing so for the wrong reasons.
As I said, Destroy is an actual choice, it takes guts - the others are capitulation - in my opinion, of course.
You might be interested in the alternate Rannoch campaign I wrote up. I took Reaper code out of the equation (a major source of distrust) and tried to be balanced to both sides.
Pass me a link and I'll have a look.
Quite, thank you very much. We would never have seen antagonism in the discussion had you led your argument in this fashion.
I gotta be me. I also have to regulate my sugar rushes more efficiently, as well, I think.
Modifié par JakeMacDon, 16 mars 2013 - 01:18 .