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sandalisthemaker

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 Bioware, please don't make the female Inquisitor sway her hips like she's strutting down a catwalk when she walks the way Hawke did in DA2. What was the point of that, honestly?  It was especially jarring considering that my lady Hawke was an aggressive, 2 handed warrior decked out in intimidating plate armor... who then proceeded to strut around like she worked at the Blooming Rose on the weekends.  Her standing animation (with one hip cocked to the side) didn't help either.
I was shocked when I found out that Aveline and Merrill walk the same way, which totally clashed with their personalities.
So please, I beg of you don't do the same thing in DA3!

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Ignore OP. Please make her sway. I like girls to be girls, so let's have then walk like girls and not boys.

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 15 mars 2013 - 02:11 .


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sandalisthemaker wrote...

 Bioware, please don't make the female Inquisitor sway her hips like she's strutting down a catwalk when she walks the way Hawke did in DA2. What was the point of that, honestly?  It was especially jarring considering that my lady Hawke was an aggressive, 2 handed warrior decked out in intimidating plate armor... who then proceeded to strut around like she worked at the Blooming Rose on the weekends.  Her standing animation (with one hip cocked to the side) didn't help either.
I was shocked when I found out that Aveline and Merrill walk the same way, which totally clashed with their personalities.
So please, I beg of you don't do the same thing in DA3!


+1000

Female Hawke constantly looked like she was desperately trolling for sexual attention.  I found playing her incredibly distracting, and not in a good way.

Please, oh PLEASE don't do that again.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

 Bioware, please don't make the female Inquisitor sway her hips like she's strutting down a catwalk when she walks the way Hawke did in DA2. What was the point of that, honestly?  It was especially jarring considering that my lady Hawke was an aggressive, 2 handed warrior decked out in intimidating plate armor... who then proceeded to strut around like she worked at the Blooming Rose on the weekends.  Her standing animation (with one hip cocked to the side) didn't help either.
I was shocked when I found out that Aveline and Merrill walk the same way, which totally clashed with their personalities.
So please, I beg of you don't do the same thing in DA3!


And please do not do the femshep walk either. To much testostorone in that one. Plus you might want to make her close her legs when she sits.

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Ignore OP. Please make her sway. I like girls to be girls, so let's have then walk like girls and not boys.


Yes, there are some differences between how a girl and a guy move, but a girl walking down the street (let alone a battlefield) is not going to sway her hips in such an exaggerated fashion.

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Funny thing, there was a HOARD of posters beefing that females walked and moved just like men in previous bioware games. Please BioWare don't give her the sway walk! Please BioWare don't make her walk like a man!

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This is a problem we sort of had with ME, except the opposite.

I agree, it needs to be much more neutral.

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I have to admit that I kinda liked her animations (I walk pretty weirdly myself though not in the same way). Still I agree something more muted would be nice.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

Yes, there are some differences between how a girl and a guy move, but a girl walking down the street (let alone a battlefield) is not going to sway her hips in such an exaggerated fashion.


Who cares?  It's a video game.  A woman walking down teh street or a battlefield isn't going to be able to summon a lightning storm with a snap of her fingers either.  Style beats practicality in this case.

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ohh ffs ppl arent gonnae be happy until the pc is a mono gendered midget dwarf with pointy ears an a polka dot complection who walks like a robot an nothing on it moves in a sensual way at all

shall wee also put a big sack round the bugger from neck to toe so as not to show of any skin?

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Ignore OP. Please make her sway. I like girls to be girls, so let's have then walk like girls and not boys.


Newsflash: even real girls don't walk/run like that. I certainly don't. If I would try to jog like female Hawke I would fall on my face.

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Beerfish wrote...

Funny thing, there was a HOARD of posters beefing that females walked and moved just like men in previous bioware games. Please BioWare don't give her the sway walk! Please BioWare don't make her walk like a man!


Toggle.  It needs a toggle.  Kitten, plate glass, crash.

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Beerfish wrote...

Funny thing, there was a HOARD of posters beefing that females walked and moved just like men in previous bioware games. Please BioWare don't give her the sway walk! Please BioWare don't make her walk like a man!


There must be some sort of happy medium. I have faith in Bioware to find it.;)

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Ignore OP. Please make her sway. I like girls to be girls, so let's have then walk like girls and not boys.


Yes, there are some differences between how a girl and a guy move, but a girl walking down the street (let alone a battlefield) is not going to sway her hips in such an exaggerated fashion.


Depends on the girl and her center of gravity, actually.  There are, in fact, actually women who move like f!Hawke, and not just when they're trying to look 'sexy'.

Instead of saying "girls don't do [x]" how about saying "It didn't seem to fit the characters?"  Because for pretty much every "Girls don't do [x]" you can say, there's a woman out there who does.

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Agreed OP. It was ridiculous how even plate armor bended like rubber to accomodate the swaying broken hips.

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I actually liked the one-hip standing animation. I often stand that way in real life. Don't know if the OP is female or not, but it's actually quite comfortable to stand that way. :)

What really bothered me about ladyHawke's run was the floppy-wrist thing she did. I don't know anyone, male or female, who runs like that.

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I agree with OP. Enjoyed playing a female Warden in DAO and was disappointed when female Hawk's walking animation kept giving me headaches when I played (kept getting eye whiplash from her hip movement). Tried using a mod that changed her walking animation to that of male Hawk, but found it too distractingly silly; in the end I just gave up on playing a female character for DA2.

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renjility wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Ignore OP. Please make her sway. I like girls to be girls, so let's have then walk like girls and not boys.


Newsflash: even real girls don't walk/run like that. I certainly don't. If I would try to jog like female Hawke I would fall on my face.


Indeed.

Yet we were stuck with a Hawke who may have been a super strong and athletic, heavily-armored warrior and still ran into battle as if she were prancing down a catwalk or marketing her wares at the Blooming Rose.

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krul2k wrote...

ohh ffs ppl arent gonnae be happy until the pc is a mono gendered midget dwarf with pointy ears an a polka dot complection who walks like a robot an nothing on it moves in a sensual way at all

shall wee also put a big sack round the bugger from neck to toe so as not to show of any skin?



Why does female Hawke have to move in a "sensual" way?

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krul2k wrote...

ohh ffs ppl arent gonnae be happy until the pc is a mono gendered midget dwarf with pointy ears an a polka dot complection who walks like a robot an nothing on it moves in a sensual way at all

shall wee also put a big sack round the bugger from neck to toe so as not to show of any skin?


Odd, i saw absolutly nothing sexy about her walk/run. Posted Image

Besides it fits Isabella alot more than Hawke. I can even accept Isabellas "armour" since it fits her character so well.

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why not?

i like it, theres probably plenty others who like it so why should my experience be spoiled because you dont, go play male hawke if it bothers you so much simple

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Its better than ME. Female Hawke certainly doesn't walk or even sit down like Female shepard does. In this instance leave it alone.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

I actually liked the one-hip standing animation. I often stand that way in real life. Don't know if the OP is female or not, but it's actually quite comfortable to stand that way. :)

What really bothered me about ladyHawke's run was the floppy-wrist thing she did. I don't know anyone, male or female, who runs like that.

 

Floppy wrists would get you yelled at by a track coach. ;)  ...and does, actually.  Back when I was in track, that was something the coach had to drill out of both girls and boys.  Not all of us, but some.  I don't think it's something that anyone necessarily realizes they're doing when they're running, but some people do.  And I didn't notice it being particularly egregrious on f!Hawke, I have to admit.  A little, but it wasn't too bad.

What I personally wouldn't want to see (not that some people don't do it, but anyone who does a lot of running is going to stop doing it pretty quickly) is women flinging their arms/hands back and forth over the centre of their vertical body line as they run.  That's a hell of a lot of wasted energy and off-balances you, something I'd like to think my PC knows better than to do.   Luckily, I haven't noticed this in the DA games, so hopefully the animators will keep on keeping on, there. :)

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brushyourteeth wrote...

I actually liked the one-hip standing animation. I often stand that way in real life. Don't know if the OP is female or not, but it's actually quite comfortable to stand that way. :)

What really bothered me about ladyHawke's run was the floppy-wrist thing she did. I don't know anyone, male or female, who runs like that.


I can not speak for how (un)comfortable it is. But i thought it looked good, the way she stood.

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Odd, i saw absolutly nothing sexy about her walk/run. Posted Image

Besides it fits Isabella alot more than Hawke. I can even accept Isabellas "armour" since it fits her character so well.


Isabella: yes.
Aveline, Merrill: no
Hawke: Guess it depends on the player, but for me- definitely not.