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I don;t really think this thread was meant to be another RtO whinefest, but I will go ahead and answer Frozeal because he isn't a complete moron, then ignore the no-doubt upcoming ranting by others :)



The "delay", as I understand it, is that the DLC just wasn't ready to go yet. The fox at microsoft messed up and released early, leaving the people in chare of the other platforms in the lurch.



It is like if you are going to run a race, but one guy takes off 30 seconds before the gun is fired, then your friends ask you why you 'delayed' in starting and start accusing you of throwing the race.




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Ginasue wrote...
I was having no problem with the updates until the last patch came out.


I have the lastest updates and my latest character is updating.


Ginasue wrote...

I'm not getting any new characters or even update of existing characters.


You have to be playing while connected and save with the character for the update to occur. If you've been playing offline and then go online nothing happens. The other possibility is that you have hit the 100 file limit. The game makes heaps of screen shots per character and if you've got auto-load of screen shots ticked then you'll use up that limit real fast. What does your profile diagnostics say?

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Lolz. So I am called a "******" and " childish" for pointing out something -that is true-? I didn't say I approved of the handling of the issue, nor that there is no issue, I just wanted to point out that this would be received very differently if the story was the other way around. Console gamers have been feeling like this about a variety of issues and inevitably someone tells them to shut up and whatnot. it might not be any of you who do that, but maybe some community unity rather than platform division would help everyone be happier and Bioware be more responsive.

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Sloth Of Doom wrote...

I don;t really think this thread was meant to be another RtO whinefest, but I will go ahead and answer Frozeal because he isn't a complete moron, then ignore the no-doubt upcoming ranting by others :)

The "delay", as I understand it, is that the DLC just wasn't ready to go yet. The fox at microsoft messed up and released early, leaving the people in chare of the other platforms in the lurch.

It is like if you are going to run a race, but one guy takes off 30 seconds before the gun is fired, then your friends ask you why you 'delayed' in starting and start accusing you of throwing the race.

Thanks for the words, but yeah, I understand that part, still they have not been clear, and what is most pissing me off is that they treat us like 12 year old kids changing the schedule 5 minutes before deadline AND NOT SAYING A THING.
If they have to fix bugs for better quality and delay the product, then it's ok, it's good, that shows a responsible company that takes care for its products and that they are not only thirsty for money releasing ****ty things... but their behavior the last 9 days... we deserve an explanation.

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Fexelea wrote...

Lolz. So I am called a "******" and " childish" for pointing out something -that is true-?

So its true that ALL pc users are elitist? I have yet to see a single PC player, let alone elitist tell console players to shut up and play on the superior version.

You are simply being over sensitive, WAAH WAAH!!! 

Its usually console elitist scum that instigate this whole mess by brining up how they think consoles are superior because ZOMG couch, BIG TV!!! and "plug and play".

Fexelea wrote...
I didn't say I approved of the handling of the issue, nor that there is no issue, I just wanted to point out that this would be received very differently if the story was the other way around. Console gamers have been feeling like this about a variety of issues and inevitably someone tells them to shut up and whatnot. it might not be any of you who do that, but maybe some community unity rather than platform division would help everyone be happier and Bioware be more responsive.

And how would you know that? You are basing this off a few isolated incidents? Please xbox360/ps3 elitist scum are far worse and far more immature than pc elitists.

People are already annoyed with the delay, do you think the pc "elitists" would bother insulting other platform users when they would likely be getting the thing to work and playing it instead?

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"they treat us like 12 year old kids"



... which is more than we deserve.



Oh, the drama ...

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GithCheater wrote...

"they treat us like 12 year old kids"

... which is more than we deserve.

Oh, the drama ...

It's not being dramatic, it's just saying how things are. They have been irresponsible with their costumers, prove me wrong.

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Please re-read my original post:



"Sorry but I have to comment that after recent encounters with a few "pc elitists" on these fora, I have to say that if the content had been released on PC first and someone on console had complained, we would see many people telling them to shut up and get the "superior" version for the "superior" platform..."



Now notice A FEW on my post. If you have been keeping up with the threads, you can go to the toolset or mods for ps3 threads and find what I am referring to.



I have, on the other hand, not seen any "console is superior" threads or posts. And I have certainly not made any comments that would make you think that is my belief. Who is being overly sensitive? Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions



And of course I do not "know" but I can certainly predict based on previous experiences. We all go through different paths and have our own lenses to look through, and for what I have seen and read yes, I think that would be the case, as it is with the mods.



Please, I am not trying to argue, I am trying to explain my original comment. If you have a different view, I would appreciate it if you could post it without falling into "scum" comments for anyone

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Jeez guys, do you want to take your flame war somewhere else? Some of us are trying to address Ginasues' problems and we'd like to not see the thread get locked by highjackers.

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Ginasue wrote...

I'm not getting any new characters or even update of existing characters.


if you have -enabledeveloperconsole enabled, try starting without, fixed my updating problems

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Geez... Is this really worth so much drama and hostility? The DLC comes out when it comes out, it's not like we can do anything about it and raging on the forums won't make it come any faster. However people who lost their BioWare points by buying the leaked version should be compensated naturally and I can understand why they are frustrated.

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I knew I should have bought stock in Kleenex...

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Sorry I did not intend to start any sort of flame wars, but rather raise awareness of an issue.

I have the same problem as Ginasues, so I would like to see a solution for that as well, however the technical help section seems like a better place to discuss that.

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MonkeyChief117 wrote...

soladel3030 wrote...

Things could be worst people! I was diagnosed a year ago with a rare heart disorder. I had tests done yesterday and was told I have 6 months to live, unless I have open heart surgery to fix the problem.

It would be nice however to see RTO before I die... >.>


=P


erm . . . shouldn't you be spending time with your family etc. considering you've just been informed of your imminent death? The release date of RtO pales in compparison don't you think?   

When you're the one dying, your opinion on what is appropriate for you to do will have some relevance.

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lmao they just locked the thread.... what a surprise.

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Fexelea wrote...



Now notice A FEW on my post. If you have been keeping up with the threads, you can go to the toolset or mods for ps3 threads and find what I am referring to.

Right so you are basing this pathetic rational off a FEW isolated incidents.

Fexelea wrote...
I have, on the other hand, not seen any "console is superior" threads or posts.

 
Lulz, hypocrite. Let me quote your very own words.

" If you have been keeping up with the threads"

^ Which you clearly have NOT seeing not only here, but the Mass effect 2 forums and pretty much everywhere else there are countless 360 elitist scumbags trying to argue consoles superiority over PC's.

Fexelea wrote...

And I have certainly not made any comments that would make you think that is my belief. Who is being overly sensitive? Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions

  

No one is jumping to conclusions but you, "zomg becuz 0f my 3xP3r!3nc3 @ll pc us3rs w!ll @$k m3  t0 ShuT uP @nd pl@y  t3h $uPer!0r v3rs!0n!!!!11!!1oneone".


Fexelea wrote...
And of course I do not "know" but I can certainly predict based on previous experiences. We all go through different paths and have our own lenses to look through, and for what I have seen and read yes, I think that would be the case, as it is with the mods.

Yet you're telling me not to jump to conclusions.... hypocrite.

Fexelea wrote...

Please, I am not trying to argue, I am trying to explain my original comment. If you have a different view, I would appreciate it if you could post it without falling into "scum" comments for anyone

It would be better if you shut the hell up and quit accusing pc users of telling you to "shut up" and play the "superior version" without any proof other than using a few isolated incidents to justify your basless assertions.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 14 janvier 2010 - 03:06 .


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Dargar21 wrote...

lmao they just locked the thread.... what a surprise.


Yes they tend to do that when it turns into a **** throwing contest... and looking at the brown smears over this one I would expect the same.

Modifié par addiction21, 14 janvier 2010 - 03:08 .


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Some people must have put their heart into this game to be so upset by a delay or whatever else is going on with this situation. I can understand everyone's disappointment in so many problems, but the outrage and sometimes childish behavior is unneeded. I am a bit disheartened that the DLC is taking so long myself. However, I'm not flooded with negative emotion over it.



It'd be something awesome if a few people could settle down.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...



Fexelea wrote...







Now notice A FEW on my post. If you have been keeping up with the threads, you can go to the toolset or mods for ps3 threads and find what I am referring to.


Right so you are basing this pathetic rational off a FEW isolated incidents.



Fexelea wrote...

I have, on the other hand, not seen any "console is superior" threads or posts.



Lulz, hypocrite. Let me quote your very own words.



" If you have been keeping up with the threads"



^ Which you clearly have NOT seeing not only here, but the Mass effect 2 forums and pretty much everywhere else there are countless 360 elitist scumbags trying to argue consoles superiority over PC's.

Fexelea wrote...



And I have certainly not made any comments that would make you think that is my belief. Who is being overly sensitive? Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions





No one is jumping to conclusions but you, "zomg becuz 0f my 3xP3r!3nc3 @ll pc us3rs w!ll @$k m3 t0 ShuT uP @nd pl@y t3h $uPer!0r v3rs!0n!!!!11!!1oneone".





Fexelea wrote...

And of course I do not "know" but I can certainly predict based on previous experiences. We all go through different paths and have our own lenses to look through, and for what I have seen and read yes, I think that would be the case, as it is with the mods.

Yet you're telling me not to jump to conclusions.... hypocrite.

Fexelea wrote...



Please, I am not trying to argue, I am trying to explain my original comment. If you have a different view, I would appreciate it if you could post it without falling into "scum" comments for anyone

It would be better if you shut the hell up and quit accusing pc users of telling you to "shut up" and play the "superior version" without any proof other than using a few isolated incidents to justify your basless assertions.






Ad Hominem

Strawman

Fallacy

Insult

More fallacy

Another Strawman



That pretty much sums up your post. I don't think it would prove useful to talk more about the matter because you have obviously decided that I am something and that I behave and type like something that I am and do not. Quickly going towards pointless flaming and insults, you have proven your inability to sustain a rational, logical and mature debate with me.

Write on if you wish. (/ignore){smilie}

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Fexelea wrote...
Ad Hominem
Strawman
Fallacy
Insult
More fallacy
Another Strawman

Cute that you are throwing  "Ad Hominem" around when you clearly fit that description yourself. And talk about "strawman" lulz.

You simply threw around these terms because you have nothing to argue and nothing to back your ridiculous assertions. Adorable.

Fexelea wrote...
That pretty much sums up your post. I don't think it would prove useful to talk more about the matter because you have obviously decided that I am something and that I behave and type like something that I am and do not. Quickly going towards pointless flaming and insults, you have proven your inability to sustain a rational, logical and mature debate with me.
Write on if you wish. (/ignore){smilie}

Lulz talk about "rational debate with you", you weren't even rationale to begin with and i wasn't the only person that called your arse out. Now get lost you console elititst scumbag.

And i DO have the ability to sustain a mature debate, provided that the opposer isn't a  jackass to begin with.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 14 janvier 2010 - 03:23 .


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I can't quite decide whether I'd get more enjoyment from finally playing RtO or having BioWare announce it's cancelled and reading the ensuing dramastorm on the forums.




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Harelda wrote...

I can't quite decide whether I'd get more enjoyment from finally playing RtO or having BioWare announce it's cancelled and reading the ensuing dramastorm on the forums.


Cancelled. BY FAR.

Edit: Really it is not even a contest.

Modifié par addiction21, 14 janvier 2010 - 03:22 .


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addiction21 wrote...


Cancelled. BY FAR.


 Go on then, BioWare. I dare you.

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Ginasue wrote...

I'm usually one who doesn't ocmplain about something, but today, I think I've reached the end of my rope.
First off, and I don't blame Bioware or any of the guys and girls doing RTO for this, but Microsoft for releasing to Xbox, there baby the RTO first, and forgetting about the rest of the people. 


Guess you haven't bothered to read the threads.

(1) MS did NOT release RTO early to benefit the 360. It was released early BY ACCIDENT by an MS employee who entered the release date as January 14, 2009 (supposed to be January 14, 2010). In other words, someone made a mistake that could get them fired, and you are whining because you are a DAY LATE getting the DLC. 

(2) Every 360 owner who logged into XBL today to play DAO got a patch that was supposed to fix a bug with the achievements from the first 2 DLC. That patch was supposed to be tied to RTO, though you didn't have to get RTO in order to get the patch. However, because the achievement for RTO wasn't supposed to be out, XBL servers are causing a glitch in every 360 game. Every specialization that was unlocked is locked again. Unlocking a specilization does not allow that specialization to stay unlocked after quiting the game.

Let me say this again - every 360 gamer who played DAO today lost all unlocked specs (though ones that were already assigned to a PC or NPC stayed) and if you wanted to get a spec for a character, you had to unlock it and then keep playing until that character reached a level where they could take a specialization.

So let me ask all you PC and PS3 owners... Would you rather wait ONE DAY for your DLC, or would you rather lose hours of playtime spent unlocking (and keeping) specializations.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

Right, its usually console tards like you that start the whole crap storm of console wars and then you label us pc elitist retards.


FAIL