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What I hate about Shepard in ME.


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TheMyron

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At the end of ME2/beginning of ME3; My Shepard would have invoked his Spectre status to avoid being incarcerated for six months in the first place, and Second, why should he care about being reinstated in the Alliance N7? As a Spectre, by Council standards, he already outranks them all. If neccessary, at the end of the ME2, Shepard would have gone Independent.Image IPB

In ME3, My Shepard would never have "turned" the Normandy 2 over to the stupid Alliance, let alone authorize the hideous remodeling of his ship.Image IPB

After the Virmire incident in ME1, I would have punched Captain Kirrahe for abandoning the squadmate I entrusted to him temporary, thus forcing me to divide my personal forces and sacrifice Kaiden.Image IPB

My Shepard would also have been more bold at certain points, a good example, at the Citadel party, My Shepard would have stripped down to his trunks and joined Samantha in the hot tub whether she liked it or not.Image IPB

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Every word out of Shepard's mouth should be a proclamation of his mighty and eternal love of waffles, since that's surely what I would do in his place. I call bad writing for the writers blatently ignoring me. I thought this was an RPG?

Modifié par David7204, 15 mars 2013 - 11:40 .


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fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?

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crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB

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TheMyron wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB

because with spectre status reinstated and Hackett and Anderson backing me up as the game itself states I do not need dumberus ....Councillor Anderson would have just let me do wtf I wanted with the ship and I could have picked my crew accordingly

Modifié par crimzontearz, 15 mars 2013 - 11:50 .


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just.a.dude

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TheMyron wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB


Because he hates Miranda.... or he just really likes turning things over to the Alliance?

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crimzontearz wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB

because with spectre status reinstated and Hackett and Anderson backing him up as the game itself states I do not need dumberus ....Councillor Anderson would have just let me do wtf I wanted with the ship and I could have picked my crew accordingly


Yes, but TIMmah would not have approved.

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just.a.dude wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB


Because he hates Miranda.... or he just really likes turning things over to the Alliance?

I prefer alliance and council support to Cerberus support

and Miranda aggravates me

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Spectres don't outrank Alliance military personnel.

That is common misconception on the BSN. Spectres are outside of the Alliance chain-of-command. Shepard couldn't for example invoke his Spectre status to order Anderson or Hackett to do anything, and Shepard's authority over the Normandy SR1 and the Alliance SR2 comes from his officer's commission. It is his status as a Lt. Commander in the Alliance Navy that bestows the authority to command an Alliance warship. Notice that Shepard is the only Spectre ever encountered in the series that commands a military warship. That is because he is also the only Spectre who is simulataneously a high ranking military officer.

The closest real world equivalent to Shepard's Spectre status would be the OSS and MI6 agents during the Second World War, who were members of their countries' militaries and civilian intelligence agencies simulataneously. These agents were officers in the American or British militaries, but while operating behind the lines in German occupied France, Belgium, or Holland they were outside of the military chain-of-command.

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just.a.dude wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB

because with spectre status reinstated and Hackett and Anderson backing him up as the game itself states I do not need dumberus ....Councillor Anderson would have just let me do wtf I wanted with the ship and I could have picked my crew accordingly


Yes, but TIMmah would not have approved.

all the more reason

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You do realize that Shepard had his Spectre status revoked in between ME2 and ME3?

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Jadebaby

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oh OP, still searching for "your" Shepard huh? You have to accept that all Shepards died at the collector base, what prevailed was a shadow of their former selves.

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Yes, because it's entirely possible for Bioware to put THAT MANY choices in the game while keeping a consistent story.

I guess I should complain because my Shepard can't ask Liara to suck him off whenever he wants. Maybe there should have been a decision to side with the Reapers and have two entirely different games in ME3 depending on which you chose.

Modifié par RussianZombeh, 15 mars 2013 - 11:55 .


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David7204 wrote...

Every word out of Shepard's mouth should be a proclamation of his mighty and eternal love of waffles, since that's surely what I would do in his place. I call bad writing for the writers blatently ignoring me. I thought this was an RPG?


You make the mistake of assuming OP never felt connected with their Shepard. Remember there were two games played before OP raised this complaint. I can't believe you don't have anything better to do by now.

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crimzontearz wrote...

just.a.dude wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB

because with spectre status reinstated and Hackett and Anderson backing him up as the game itself states I do not need dumberus ....Councillor Anderson would have just let me do wtf I wanted with the ship and I could have picked my crew accordingly


Yes, but TIMmah would not have approved.

all the more reason


Although a renegade Shepard does not get his Spectre status reinstated in ME2.

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Gruntburner wrote...

You do realize that Shepard had his Spectre status revoked in between ME2 and ME3?


Then why does the computer say Spectre status recognized and let you into the Spectre room on the Citadel. 

Shepard was in trouble with the Alliance, they don't have the authority to revoke his status, only the council does.

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just.a.dude wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

just.a.dude wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

fine...you mean like my Shepard would have turned the SR2 to the alliance directly at the beginning of ME2 after planting a bullet in Miranda's head?



Why would you do that?Image IPB

because with spectre status reinstated and Hackett and Anderson backing him up as the game itself states I do not need dumberus ....Councillor Anderson would have just let me do wtf I wanted with the ship and I could have picked my crew accordingly


Yes, but TIMmah would not have approved.

all the more reason


Although a renegade Shepard does not get his Spectre status reinstated in ME2.

I am not about labels

hehe

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Jadebaby wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Every word out of Shepard's mouth should be a proclamation of his mighty and eternal love of waffles, since that's surely what I would do in his place. I call bad writing for the writers blatently ignoring me. I thought this was an RPG?


You make the mistake of assuming OP never felt connected with their Shepard. Remember there were two games played before OP raised this complaint. I can't believe you don't have anything better to do by now.


That's interesting coming from someone who literally has "Done with Mass Effect, moving on" word-for-word in their signature.

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Shepard's Spectre status has nothing to do with the Alliance. What are people talking about. Hackett can't take it away let alone reinstate it.

Spectre status is up to the council and the council only, and they reinstated it in ME2.

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RussianZombeh wrote...

Yes, because it's entirely possible for Bioware to put THAT MANY choices in the game while keeping a consistent story.

I guess I should complain because my Shepard can't ask Liara to suck him off whenever he wants.


Yes, let's turn the whole thread into hyperbollic filth.

What most people don't get is that the OP has a very valid point. Now maybe Shepard's actions have to be fairly linear, but it doesn't mean her/his dialogue does.

As it stands, the time I felt most on par with what my Shepard was saying in ME3 was in the refuse speech, THANK YOU VERY ****ING MUCH BIOWARE!

(clearly I'm still yet to play the Citadel dlc).

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just.a.dude wrote...

Yes, but TIMmah would not have approved.

Oh, God... now I'll always picture him sitting in Cronos Station.

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Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 15 mars 2013 - 11:58 .


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David7204 wrote...

That's interesting coming from someone who literally has "Done with Mass Effect, moving on" word-for-word in their signature.


Oh boy.

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Gruntburner wrote...

You do realize that Shepard had his Spectre status revoked in between ME2 and ME3?


No he didn't, the council had considered revoking it, but decided to uphold it.

Otherwise the turian counciler would have used the word "reinstated".

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Aaleel wrote...

Gruntburner wrote...

You do realize that Shepard had his Spectre status revoked in between ME2 and ME3?


Then why does the computer say Spectre status recognized and let you into the Spectre room on the Citadel. 

Shepard was in trouble with the Alliance, they don't have the authority to revoke his status, only the council does.


My Shepard, who shot Conrad in the foot, never got reinstated, because before he did that, he bad mouthed Udina and the human council and thus was not reinstated in ME2. In ME3 the Spectre door remains red until after the meeting with the council when Udina tells him we was reinstated.

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I still laugh at the whole "My Shepard" thing. It's ludicrous.