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Sejborg

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This thread is escalating fast!

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just.a.dude

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

just.a.dude wrote...

Yes, but TIMmah would not have approved.

Oh, God... now I'll always picture him sitting in Cronos Station.

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...but that is a good thing.

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I prefer alliance and council support to Cerberus support

and Miranda aggravates me


Hey, power to you. I support Cerberus far more than I ever did the alliance or the council. The galaxy nearly burned because of them. At least Cerberus was indoctrinated. 

I'd love to put a bullet in Hackett and Anderson's head myself. They aggravate me.

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from what I know from ME2 arrival the reason they put Shepard under house arrest is because they needed an escape goat for him blowing up an entire system and a Bartarian planet destroyed and they did not want a war between humanity and the Bartarians when the Reapers are incoming.

and technically Shepard was no longer an alliance solider or a spectre after ME2 he got stripped out of spectre status and lost his rank in the alliance, so he could do naff all except enjoy house arrest and get ignored by Ashley Williams & Kaidan Alenko

**EDIT**

also I have no issue with the the cerberus personel on the normandy but the rest of Cerberus were beyond stupid as Joker very well noted "hey Shepard could go to this location where rachni we were experimenting on escaped and killed are men, you are nearby from where we hooked a guy up to Geth and the Geth killed are men"

but too be honest all the galaxy are stupid at times including Alliance, the council, Salarians etc, but Cerberus they take wins on the stupidity part by a big margin (no offence cerberus fans)

Modifié par TomY90, 16 mars 2013 - 12:06 .


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David7204 wrote...

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Every word out of Shepard's mouth should be a proclamation of his mighty and eternal love of waffles, since that's surely what I would do in his place. I call bad writing for the writers blatently ignoring me. I thought this was an RPG?


You make the mistake of assuming OP never felt connected with their Shepard. Remember there were two games played before OP raised this complaint. I can't believe you don't have anything better to do by now.


That's interesting coming from someone who literally has "Done with Mass Effect, moving on" word-for-word in their signature.


I have explained this before, I should really take that out until I can e bothered to play Citadel dlc, but for all intents and purposes, I still have. My posting frequency has dropped significantly and I've stopped trying to convince myself BioWare can write a serious and coherent plot. But even after I move on, Mass Effect will always be a scar on my favourite games list. One of those things that got to great and as a result, was utterly destroyed by greed and hubris.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
I prefer alliance and council support to Cerberus support

and Miranda aggravates me


Hey, power to you. I support Cerberus far more than I ever did the alliance or the council. The galaxy nearly burned because of them. At least Cerberus was indoctrinated. 

I'd love to put a bullet in Hackett and Anderson's head myself. They aggravate me.

not the point

my point is everyone has their crosses to bear in this field

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Mumba1511 wrote...

I still laugh at the whole "My Shepard" thing. It's ludicrous.


Are you laughing at MY Shepard!?!! My Shepard (actually Shepards) are the best!

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Yes, because it's entirely possible for Bioware to put THAT MANY choices in the game while keeping a consistent story.

I guess I should complain because my Shepard can't ask Liara to suck him off whenever he wants.


Yes, let's turn the whole thread into hyperbollic filth.

What most people don't get is that the OP has a very valid point. Now maybe Shepard's actions have to be fairly linear, but it doesn't mean her/his dialogue does.

As it stands, the time I felt most on par with what my Shepard was saying in ME3 was in the refuse speech, THANK YOU VERY ****ING MUCH BIOWARE!

(clearly I'm still yet to play the Citadel dlc).

The OP doesn't have a point. He wants his Shepard to be able to do things that can't be done in the game. For example, not giving the Normandy to the Alliance. Did he actually want there to be 2 completely different games in ME3, one where you fought with the Alliance and one where you didn't? That's what it looks like he's asking for.

It's not hyperbolic at all, the OP wants stuff that just isn't feasable.

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Your Shepard would have gotten the galaxy killed

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Jadebaby wrote...

oh OP, still searching for "your" Shepard huh? You have to accept that all Shepards died at the collector base, what prevailed was a shadow of their former selves.

Speak for your self. That "Shepard" in mE2 was not my Shepard, in ME3 though she came back from wherever she was. Probaly in a bar, not that I blame her.

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just.a.dude wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

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You do realize that Shepard had his Spectre status revoked in between ME2 and ME3?


Then why does the computer say Spectre status recognized and let you into the Spectre room on the Citadel. 

Shepard was in trouble with the Alliance, they don't have the authority to revoke his status, only the council does.


My Shepard, who shot Conrad in the foot, never got reinstated, because before he did that, he bad mouthed Udina and the human council and thus was not reinstated in ME2. In ME3 the Spectre door remains red until after the meeting with the council when Udina tells him we was reinstated.


You never got it back in ME2.  You didn't lose it in between ME2 and ME3 like was stated above.

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My Shepard would demand everyone to operate the Normandy in their underwear, starting in ME1.

I want my money back, BioWare, for all three games.

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just.a.dude

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thearbiter1337 wrote...

Your Shepard would have gotten the galaxy killed


My Shepard did.

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RussianZombeh wrote...

Yes, because it's entirely possible for Bioware to put THAT MANY choices in the game while keeping a consistent story.

Not necessarily, but it depends upon how you structure the story. If Shepard was just a Spectre in ME2 then he could freely choose whom to ally himself with or work with, he could use the Alliance, Cerberus, and the Council to acheive his goal, namely to stop the Reapers.

The limitations come when you force Shepard to affiliate himself with one particular organisation. That's one of Bioware's mistakes in ME2, they forced Shepard to work with Cerberus which in turn denied Shepard the resources of the Alliance and the Council. It's probably not the best way for a Spectre to operate. 

Letting Shepard keep his freedom as a Spectre to choose whom to work with, the Council or Alliance etc, will at the same time keep us having the freedom to roleplay. 

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crimzontearz wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
I prefer alliance and council support to Cerberus support

and Miranda aggravates me


Hey, power to you. I support Cerberus far more than I ever did the alliance or the council. The galaxy nearly burned because of them. At least Cerberus was indoctrinated. 

I'd love to put a bullet in Hackett and Anderson's head myself. They aggravate me.

not the point

my point is everyone has their crosses to bear in this field


And I was supporting you. I was simply stating how I wished ME3 had gone.

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RussianZombeh wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Yes, because it's entirely possible for Bioware to put THAT MANY choices in the game while keeping a consistent story.

I guess I should complain because my Shepard can't ask Liara to suck him off whenever he wants.


Yes, let's turn the whole thread into hyperbollic filth.

What most people don't get is that the OP has a very valid point. Now maybe Shepard's actions have to be fairly linear, but it doesn't mean her/his dialogue does.

As it stands, the time I felt most on par with what my Shepard was saying in ME3 was in the refuse speech, THANK YOU VERY ****ING MUCH BIOWARE!

(clearly I'm still yet to play the Citadel dlc).

The OP doesn't have a point. He wants his Shepard to be able to do things that can't be done in the game. For example, not giving the Normandy to the Alliance. Did he actually want there to be 2 completely different games in ME3, one where you fought with the Alliance and one where you didn't? That's what it looks like he's asking for.

It's not hyperbolic at all, the OP wants stuff that just isn't feasable.


Like I said, the actions, yes. They have to be somwhat linear. But what about the dialogue? Thanks for reading...

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just.a.dude

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Aaleel wrote...

just.a.dude wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Gruntburner wrote...

You do realize that Shepard had his Spectre status revoked in between ME2 and ME3?


Then why does the computer say Spectre status recognized and let you into the Spectre room on the Citadel. 

Shepard was in trouble with the Alliance, they don't have the authority to revoke his status, only the council does.


My Shepard, who shot Conrad in the foot, never got reinstated, because before he did that, he bad mouthed Udina and the human council and thus was not reinstated in ME2. In ME3 the Spectre door remains red until after the meeting with the council when Udina tells him we was reinstated.


You never got it back in ME2.  You didn't lose it in between ME2 and ME3 like was stated above.


I know.

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I notice you feel the need to give me a nice in-depth explanation.

Your disappointment is not power. You ought to stop throwing it around as such. I can guarantee you that that road is a dead end.

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Mr.House wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

oh OP, still searching for "your" Shepard huh? You have to accept that all Shepards died at the collector base, what prevailed was a shadow of their former selves.

Speak for your self. That "Shepard" in mE2 was not my Shepard, in ME3 though she came back from wherever she was. Probaly in a bar, not that I blame her.


really? never heard that one before....

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Jadebaby wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

oh OP, still searching for "your" Shepard huh? You have to accept that all Shepards died at the collector base, what prevailed was a shadow of their former selves.

Speak for your self. That "Shepard" in mE2 was not my Shepard, in ME3 though she came back from wherever she was. Probaly in a bar, not that I blame her.


really? never heard that one before....

Then don't say all Shepards died at the Collector base :P

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David7204 wrote...

I notice you feel the need to give me a nice in-depth explanation.

Your disappointment is not power. You ought to stop throwing it around as such. I can guarantee you that that road is a dead end.


For what it is worth, I support your panckae thing. There were not enough pancakes in the Trilogy. Also Ducks should have been anathema.

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just.a.dude wrote...

thearbiter1337 wrote...

Your Shepard would have gotten the galaxy killed


My Shepard did.

Well.....


So did mine.....

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David7204 wrote...

I notice you feel the need to give me a nice in-depth explanation.

Your disappointment is not power. You ought to stop throwing it around as such. I can guarantee you that that road is a dead end.


lol what? These forums are a dead end.

Playing other great games like Tomb raider and SC2: HoTS has made me realize how empty and hollow these forums are now.

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Jadebaby wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

oh OP, still searching for "your" Shepard huh? You have to accept that all Shepards died at the collector base, what prevailed was a shadow of their former selves.

Speak for your self. That "Shepard" in mE2 was not my Shepard, in ME3 though she came back from wherever she was. Probaly in a bar, not that I blame her.


really? never heard that one before....


You've never heard the "my Shepard would never tolerate working with Cerberus" argument before?

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I'm fine with having to work with the alliance and the Council in ME3. Working with everyone really. I'm fine with killing Cerberus in ME3. They're indoctrinated, and now exist only to serve as Reaper minions.

I wish I had the ability to show support for Cerberus' original goals though, and to defend my actions in ME2. I wish I had the ability to be critical towards Hackett and the alliance, and especially towards the Council.

I dislike how my Shepard is pretty much shoe-horned into being a pro-alliance boy scout. That's not my Shepard. He's not a hero. He's a bit of a broken ace, a byronic hero, an enforcer. 

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 16 mars 2013 - 12:10 .