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[Fexelea]

There should be better expectations management, that is for sure.

Live n learn experience regarding product lifespan planning vs implementation for our friends at Bioware. Everything that happens now will serve as experience and enrich future approaches, so if people have to rant about their frustration, I say let them.

[Iris562]

Fexelea wrote...

There should be better expectations management, that is for sure.
Live n learn experience regarding product lifespan planning vs implementation for our friends at Bioware. Everything that happens now will serve as experience and enrich future approaches, so if people have to rant about their frustration, I say let them.

It's also a good warm up for the Awakening threads. xD

[Tylyanhar]

Thanks for the info, Chris.

[tonydizzle]

Iris562 wrote...

tonydizzle wrote...

Methinks there are a lot of spoiled youngsters (or they were at one point) in this thread... being disappointed is part of life unless you have been given everything you ever wanted, when you wanted it...

You're saying that you've never been dissapointed in life? If not then you have been and are apparently an older wiser man now right?

Good for you, we don't need "I'm older so I get to go around telling youngsters that they need to get used to being dissapointed!"

I'm used to being dissapointed, yes. I still don't like it.

HARDLY I'm only 23 and have had some of the biggest "disappointments" you could have at this age and have not liked them... By youngsters I meant when people were younger they must have been spoiled to not know how to deal with disappointment. Liking it and DEALING with it are two completely different things...

[Fexelea]

Lol. Now if that is delayed, with the amount of anticipation they are building, I expect the site to be hijicked and held hostage until release or something.

[BraveFrankie]

i guess the biggest hint to give to people is dont level up your character classes since you cant use them for the 360 one anyway. anyway i want to ask does it save the points you dont use for the level up?

[Dragon Age1103]

I hope after all of this, they work to the bone in getting Awakening as bug free as possible & launch it on time!

[Monica21]

blade-rpg wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Monica21 wrote...
You do realize that you're still getting the product, right? BioWare isn't stealing your money. You'll be able to download it when it's available. Consider it like ordering something from Amazon, but with free shipping.

Yes, I'm still getting the product, but when I order something from Amazon they tell me "you will receive the product in X business days".
They don't tell me "we'll give you further info on when you'll receive the product in the future, maybe". I'm sure you can see the difference.
At the moment we paid for a product and have nothing to show for it. Sure, we'll get it "in the future", but as paying customers, I would say we're entitled to a little more transparency on what that "future" will be.

Would you rather them give out a date they don't know if they can commit to, or for them to know when they can release before communicating it?

there stand is thanks for your money you will get the product when you get it

Really? Because I thought the problem was that they hadn't said anything.

[Iris562]

tonydizzle wrote...

Iris562 wrote...

tonydizzle wrote...

Methinks there are a lot of spoiled youngsters (or they were at one point) in this thread... being disappointed is part of life unless you have been given everything you ever wanted, when you wanted it...

You're saying that you've never been dissapointed in life? If not then you have been and are apparently an older wiser man now right?

Good for you, we don't need "I'm older so I get to go around telling youngsters that they need to get used to being dissapointed!"

I'm used to being dissapointed, yes. I still don't like it.

HARDLY I'm only 23 and have had some of the biggest "disappointments" you could have at this age and have not liked them... By youngsters I meant when people were younger they must have been spoiled to not know how to deal with disappointment. Liking it and DEALING with it are two completely different things...

WELL then, I seem to have completely misread your post then.

Appologies.

[blade-rpg]

you know the saying take it with a gran of salt???????

[Dragon Age1103]

tonydizzle wrote...

Iris562 wrote...

tonydizzle wrote...

Methinks there are a lot of spoiled youngsters (or they were at one point) in this thread... being disappointed is part of life unless you have been given everything you ever wanted, when you wanted it...

You're saying that you've never been dissapointed in life? If not then you have been and are apparently an older wiser man now right?

Good for you, we don't need "I'm older so I get to go around telling youngsters that they need to get used to being dissapointed!"

I'm used to being dissapointed, yes. I still don't like it.

HARDLY I'm only 23 and have had some of the biggest "disappointments" you could have at this age and have not liked them... By youngsters I meant when people were younger they must have been spoiled to not know how to deal with disappointment. Liking it and DEALING with it are two completely different things...

    dealing with it can be doen through voicing your opinion on the disappointment or complaing, whining, what ever. Who cares people have the right to complain this is our game, our money.

[Abriael_CG]

Monica21 wrote...

Would you rather them give out a date they don't know if they can commit to, or for them to know when they can release before communicating it?

Not exactly. What i'd like is:

1: Is the problem only on Xbox? 
a: Yes -> Communicate it, release on PC immediately. Don't delay the PS3 version further than what they initially planned. Release on Xbox when the problem is solved.
b: No -> Communicate it, delay all the releases, but give a reasonable timeframe.

I think I made the key word clear enough. At the moment they have my money, there isn't much that can be done about that part. But I don't think I'm being a "spoiled brat" for asking transparency and swift action where possible.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 14 janvier 2010 - 05:32 .

[Iris562]

Fexelea wrote...

Lol. Now if that is delayed, with the amount of anticipation they are building, I expect the site to be hijicked and held hostage until release or something.

Many Nugs will be martyred, many kittens trained for battle by Sten, and much Swooping shall indeed ensue.

[blade-rpg]

Monica21 wrote...

blade-rpg wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Monica21 wrote...
You do realize that you're still getting the product, right? BioWare isn't stealing your money. You'll be able to download it when it's available. Consider it like ordering something from Amazon, but with free shipping.

Yes, I'm still getting the product, but when I order something from Amazon they tell me "you will receive the product in X business days".
They don't tell me "we'll give you further info on when you'll receive the product in the future, maybe". I'm sure you can see the difference.
At the moment we paid for a product and have nothing to show for it. Sure, we'll get it "in the future", but as paying customers, I would say we're entitled to a little more transparency on what that "future" will be.

Would you rather them give out a date they don't know if they can commit to, or for them to know when they can release before communicating it?

there stand is thanks for your money you will get the product when you get it

Really? Because I thought the problem was that they hadn't said anything.

no they told you it was delaid they just didn't say why or for how long

[Ghostwolf09]

/stabs self

[Iris562]

[quote]Monica21 wrote...

Would you rather them give out a date they don't know if they can commit to, or for them to know when they can release before communicating it?[/quote]

[/quote]

They did give a date, again, for the 2nd time.

[Dragon Age1103]

oooooooooo tension!!! I need a break, maybe a drink with Oghren! lol

[blade-rpg]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

oooooooooo tension!!! I need a break, maybe a drink with Oghren! lol

he does offer you one in camp

[akeso]

On greywardens.com they are quoting this:
"Update 2: According to BioWare
The PC version will be available by tomorrow morning and the PS3version will be available at a later date."

Anyone know where this is from on the forums?

Modifié par akeso, 14 janvier 2010 - 05:35 .

[tonydizzle]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Would you rather them give out a date they don't know if they can commit to, or for them to know when they can release before communicating it?

Not exactly. What i'd like is:

1: Is the problem only on Xbox? 
a: Yes -> Communicate it, release on PC immediately. Don't delay the PS3 version further than what they initially planned. Release on Xbox when the problem is solved.
b: No -> Communicate it, delay all the releases, but give a reasonable timeframe.

I think I made the key word clear enough. At the moment they have my money, there isn't much that can be done about that part. But I don't think I'm being a "spoiled brat" for asking transparency and swift action where possible.

You're looking rather short sighted at the situation if you think those two responses will not cause just as much if not more of a problem for pr.

[Monica21]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Monica21 wrote...

Would you rather them give out a date they don't know if they can commit to, or for them to know when they can release before communicating it?

Not exactly. What i'd like is:

1: Is the problem only on Xbox? 
a: Yes -> Communicate it, release on PC immediately, release on Xbox when the problem is solved.
b: No -> Communicate it, delay all the releases, but give a reasonable timeframe.

I think I made the key word clear enough. At the moment they have my money, there isn't much that can be done about that part. But I don't think I'm being a "spoiled brat" for asking transparency and swift action where possible.

I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is that it's hard to communicate if you don't know what the problem is. Not to mention that even if they did know, developers tend to be pretty tight-lipped when it comes to this sort of thing.

[Fexelea]

Iris562 wrote...

Fexelea wrote...

Lol. Now if that is delayed, with the amount of anticipation they are building, I expect the site to be hijicked and held hostage until release or something.

Many Nugs will be martyred, many kittens trained for battle by Sten, and much Swooping shall indeed ensue.

Bwahahahaha. I shall begin preparations and gather materials for the army. We need catnip and cat trees for the trianing camp. Deposit in your nearest ally resource chest.

[blade-rpg]

akeso wrote...

On greywardens.com they are quoting this:
"Update 2: According to BioWare
The PC version will be available by tomorrow morning and the PS3version will be available at a later date."

Anyone know where this is from on the forums?

ign websight i think is where i saw it but never saw it here

Modifié par blade-rpg, 14 janvier 2010 - 05:37 .

[knight5923]

tonydizzle wrote...

Iris562 wrote...

tonydizzle wrote...

Methinks there are a lot of spoiled youngsters (or they were at one point) in this thread... being disappointed is part of life unless you have been given everything you ever wanted, when you wanted it...

You're saying that you've never been dissapointed in life? If not then you have been and are apparently an older wiser man now right?

Good for you, we don't need "I'm older so I get to go around telling youngsters that they need to get used to being dissapointed!"

I'm used to being dissapointed, yes. I still don't like it.

HARDLY I'm only 23 and have had some of the biggest "disappointments" you could have at this age and have not liked them... By youngsters I meant when people were younger they must have been spoiled to not know how to deal with disappointment. Liking it and DEALING with it are two completely different things...

who's not dealing with it? The only way to not deal with it is to kill yourself, and I haven't seen any vids of people's open wrists pouring over a copy of DA:O. And for the record, I'm 25, I have my university degree, and cannot find work for the life of me. So don't talk to me about disappointment or about who is spoiled.

[Iris562]

blade-rpg wrote...

akeso wrote...

On greywardens.com they are quoting this:
"Update 2: According to BioWare
The PC version will be available by tomorrow morning and the PS3version will be available at a later date."

Anyone know where this is from on the forums?

ign websight i think is where i saw it but never saw it here

As it has been said already, greywardens.com copy pasted from a British IGN site, it being released tommorow morning is the same as them releasing it on the 13th for US/Canada seeing as Britain is 6 hours ahead of EST.